United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

[Hlaalu Agent]

Well, yes. Also, central to Christian morality is the element of reciprocity - treat other people the way you would like them to treat you. With the measure you use, so it will be measured to you.

Leftists rather obviously reject this. They will freely judge you, but scream with rage if you judge them.

I am pretty sure that this is the basis of many morality systems. Even Lex Talionis is about this, you get a well as you give, nothing more, nothing less....or something of the same value. Lex Talionis was never about revenge, rather is was about limiting it. The leftists don't even meet the standard of Talionic Law. Probably not even the standards of Draco. For as harsh as Draco was, he brought law and justice as he knew it to Athens, and again accomplished the same as Talion. Remember, they are worse than our early forms of justice. Especially since they are not at all just, they are in fact actively and happily unjust. Worse yet they wear the skin of justice, and use it to insult their victims. They are not only vengeful, but are actively malicious. There can be no atonement, no forgiveness, no settling of debts- only unending damnation.

 

[Cherico]

I am pretty sure that this is the basis of many morality systems. Even Lex Talionis is about this, you get a well as you give, nothing more, nothing less....or something of the same value. Lex Talionis was never about revenge, rather is was about limiting it. The leftists don't even meet the standard of Talionic Law. Probably not even the standards of Draco. For as harsh as Draco was, he brought law and justice as he knew it to Athens, and again accomplished the same as Talion. Remember, they are worse than our early forms of justice. Especially since they are not at all just, they are in fact actively and happily unjust. Worse yet they wear the skin of justice, and use it to insult their victims. They are not only vengeful, but are actively malicious. There can be no atonement, no forgiveness, no settling of debts- only unending damnation.

This is the reason why I think they will ultimently lose.

 

[GoldRanger]

A junkie succumbing to a fentanyl overdose isn’t a martyr.

Hey hey hey! That's very inaccurate, please don't spread misinformation! He was a violent robber criminal and former prisoner junkie who succumbed to a fentanyl overdose.

 

[49ersfootball]

OMG! This thug was a criminal!

 

[LordsFire]

Well, yes. Also, central to Christian morality is the element of reciprocity - treat other people the way you would like them to treat you. With the measure you use, so it will be measured to you.

That's an element of it, but the center of Christian morality is that God is Sacred, and as a being made in the image of God, you also are sacred, as is everyone else made in His image. The Golden is a consequence of this, not a first cause in and of itself.

The new-agers are wrong when they claim 'everyone is god,' but they are within shouting distance of the truth, which is that we have a 'divine spark' because of being made in God's image, with His breath literally breathing us to life.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

The new-agers are wrong when they claim 'everyone is god,' but they are within shouting distance of the truth, which is that we have a 'divine spark' because of being made in God's image, with His breath literally breathing us to life.

Indeed. We are all His creatures at the end of the day.

 

[DarthOne]

These people need a actual religion

Shame they aren’t willing to join any.

Indeed. We are all His creatures at the end of the day.

Pretty sure ‘children’ is more accurate then ‘creatures’. As I believe the later implies a lack of true free will or something?

(Christian newbie over here so if I’m wrong by all means feel free to tell me and why I am)

 

[DarthOne]

Update! It appears that the blasphemous image depicting George Floyd as Our Lord and Savior has been stolen!

‘Blasphemous’ Painting Depicting Felon George Floyd As Jesus Christ ‘Stolen’ From Catholic University After Widespread Outrage

'Blasphemous' Painting Depicting Felon George Floyd As Jesus Christ 'Stolen' From Catholic University After Widespread Outrage

A painting depicting dead convicted felon George Floyd as Jesus Christ in a manner widely viewed as blasphemous by the Christian community has disappeared from The Catholic University of America’s law school this week, with school officials claiming the piece was stolen. The pieta painting...

nationalfile.com

by GABRIEL KEANE

November 24, 2021

A painting depicting dead convicted felon George Floyd as Jesus Christ in a manner widely viewed as blasphemous by the Christian community has disappeared from The Catholic University of America’s law school this week, with school officials claiming the piece was stolen. The pieta painting received “universally negative” reactions from students.

The painting, which depicts Middle Eastern religious figure Jesus Christ as Floyd being comforted by a black woman, and whose creator responded “yes” when asked if the figure in the pieta is Floyd or Jesus, was reported stolen by the university in an email according to the Catholic News Agency.

“Many see the male figure as George Floyd, but our Law School has always seen the figure as Jesus,” school president John Garvey said in the email, before declaring “Some critics called the image blasphemous because they saw it as deifying or canonizing George Floyd. Some comments that we received were thoughtful and reasonable. Some were offensive and racist. Much of the criticism came from people unconnected to the University.”

In contrast to the statements made by the actual creator of the work, Garvey has also stated that “There are those who would like to see George Floyd as the male figure in the icon. That is not how we read it. The image represents to our community a good-faith attempt to include religious imagery on campus that reflects the universality of the Catholic Church.”

National File previously reported on the controversy surrounding the painting on Tuesday:

The Catholic University of America recently unveiled a new painting by artist Kelly Latimore depicting 8-time convicted criminal George Floyd as Jesus Christ, showing Mary comforting the felon.
Two new paintings by artist Kelly Latimore depicting convicted violent criminal George Floyd as Jesus Christ now hang in the campus ministry office and law school of The Catholic University of America in Washington, DC, according to a new exclusive report by The Daily Signal.

Given various considerations, including how many Christian churches have been vandalized or destroyed in the Floyd riots, I wouldn’t mind if the person who stole the painting set it on fire or threw it in the trash to rot.

 

[Yinko]

As I believe the later implies a lack of true free will or something?

Free will is a theological question, as it's never directly addressed in the Bible. In the end it comes down to two things: on the one hand you cannot have free will if God is timeless and all-knowing, on the other hand you must have free will if your choice to follow God is to have any spiritual significance. As with many things, the common explanation tends to be "God chooses not to", he could act in such a way that the illusion of free will was stripped away but chooses not to because the spirtual choice is too important.

 

[Aldarion]

A junkie succumbing to a fentanyl overdose isn’t a martyr.

He is if media make him into such:

https://www.takimag.com/article/print-the-legend/

 

[Cherico]

He is if media make him into such:

https://www.takimag.com/article/print-the-legend/

you can judge group by their heroes, and Floyd is the democrats hero

that lets you see their values.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

No, they need a Crusade and the memetic Inquisition after them.

No, we most certainly do not "need" mass murder framed as a holy war, nor the mass torture of minority groups framed as "the Inquisition".

For that matter, the "memetic Inquisition" takes everything that was wrong about the Spanish Inquisition and makes it even more out of control. Having a legitimate authority in position to crack down on such murderous excess was one of the major reasons that the Roman Inquisition was founded.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

This is the reason why I think they will ultimently lose.

One can only hope. But all the more it seems that they are gearing up and gaining strength, for they are the disciples of a vigorous and ambitious new faith- one ready to upend the older and more ossified ones. Well not just faiths, but upturn everything...

 

[Cherico]

One can only hope. But all the more it seems that they are gearing up and gaining strength, for they are the disciples of a vigorous and ambitious new faith- one ready to upend the older and more ossified ones. Well not just faiths, but upturn everything...

Their entire belief system is intensely anti family and anti children, when you look at the numbers conservatives, libertarians, and normal people are having the kids. These guys their fertility fell off a cliff, so while in the short and medium term they will be successful demographics comes in and fucks them hard in 2040.

By the 2060s, you have a tiping point where money and tech can no longer make up for their issues with numbers and aging thats when I think the civil wars plural start, and with the end of the century I think we will see a hardcore return to traditionalism and the west ending any and all social experiementation.

 

[DarthOne]

Their entire belief system is intensely anti family and anti children, when you look at the numbers conservatives, libertarians, and normal people are having the kids. These guys their fertility fell off a cliff, so while in the short and medium term they will be successful demographics comes in and fucks them hard in 2040.

By the 2060s, you have a tiping point where money and tech can no longer make up for their issues with numbers and aging thats when I think the civil wars plural start, and with the end of the century I think we will see a hardcore return to traditionalism and the west ending any and all social experiementation.

That’s a heck of a long projection into the future and assumes a lot goes right for our side in the long term.

 

[Cherico]

That’s a heck of a long projection into the future and assumes a lot goes right for our side in the long term.

It but its less things go right for us and more the other sides flaws fucking them over in the long term, I think this will all most liklely end horrifically badly and that the good times wont return for another 80 years or so.

 

[LordsFire]

Free will is a theological question, as it's never directly addressed in the Bible. In the end it comes down to two things: on the one hand you cannot have free will if God is timeless and all-knowing, on the other hand you must have free will if your choice to follow God is to have any spiritual significance. As with many things, the common explanation tends to be "God chooses not to", he could act in such a way that the illusion of free will was stripped away but chooses not to because the spirtual choice is too important.

I won't pursue this at length here, given that'd be solidly out into derail we were already dabbling into, but claiming it's never directly addressed in the Bible is not correct. Go read Deuteronomy 30. If you want to discuss it, PM me or start a new thread.

 

[Blasterbot]

Their entire belief system is intensely anti family and anti children, when you look at the numbers conservatives, libertarians, and normal people are having the kids. These guys their fertility fell off a cliff, so while in the short and medium term they will be successful demographics comes in and fucks them hard in 2040.

By the 2060s, you have a tiping point where money and tech can no longer make up for their issues with numbers and aging thats when I think the civil wars plural start, and with the end of the century I think we will see a hardcore return to traditionalism and the west ending any and all social experiementation.

my counter point would be that they have zealously invaded the schools and the entertainment sectors so if parents don't pay attention to what their kids grow up learning from we will get another generation of this shit.

 

[stephen the barbarian]

Update! It appears that the blasphemous image depicting George Floyd as Our Lord and Savior has been stolen!

stolen or "stolen"?

 

[Cherico]

my counter point would be that they have zealously invaded the schools and the entertainment sectors so if parents don't pay attention to what their kids grow up learning from we will get another generation of this shit.

home schooling is exploding as a movement, as is online education, our current model of education is obsolete and people are starting to get it.