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[SoliFortissimi]

again as we've seen in America those groups who lived comfortable life in the 50's or the Michigan automotive industry it fell apart, Americans could get nice easy jobs that took care of their families out of high school. That can't be done anymore why do you think you won't end up the same as the auto workers

Those auto workers failed because they decided to shack up with the left. If we do the same, then we deserve to lose.

Please don't think I'm a hypocrite. When I say "Vae Victis", I'm not excluding myself. If we allow ourselves to become so weak that third world countries are beating us, then we deserve to lose and nothing we do can change the result.

...because if their education systems can really create superior workers, then it's just a matter of time before they win the old fashioned way. Protectionism won't change that.

 

[shangrila]

Zach what you just said was so stupid. Modern parenting is not the culture that has raised children in the US for generations. While we have never been quite so autistic as Indians and Chinese they are at least closer to historical parenting for European and Americans than the modern trash you think is historical.

Man, I still remember black reformers talking about how black families caring only about athletics and not forcing their kids to study is why they are failing and why they should be like white families.

Somehow, I think no white conservative then or now was/would be offended hearing it coming from that direction.

 

[King Arts]

No, I would just be wanting laws on the books around immigration enforced as they are written.

Per standing US law (when not ignored for Sanctuary City/State policies) to be eligible for birthright citizenship, you must have at least one parent who is a US citizen. Nothing about race, just is one parent a US citizen at the time of the child's birth; if yes, eligible for birthright citizenship; if no, child is not eligible for US birthright citizenship.

A lot of the Left and corpo's just want the US public to ignore/forget that part of immigration law, and keep it out of the convo around illegal vs legal immigration.

This is false Bacle you should talk to a lawyer or read for yourself and not just what you want to hear. The law says any child born on US territory who is subject to US laws automatically becomes a US citizen. The only time this does not apply is if the child's parents are diplomats with diplomatic immunity. Because they are not subject to US laws.

Chapter 3 - U.S. Citizens at Birth (INA 301 and 309)

A. General Requirements for Acquisition of Citizenship at BirthA person born in the United States who is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States

www.uscis.gov

United States v. Wong Kim Ark | Constitution Center

National Constitution Center Supreme Court Case Library: United States v. Wong Kim Ark

constitutioncenter.org

This is OLD settled case law on the interpretation of the 14th amendment. What you think and are saying is actually deeply un-American and goes against the opinion and interpretation of most constitutional scholars and jurisprudence. You may not like it but it's the truth.

 

[Jormungandr]

There has to be some balance because while our own civilization is a cess pitt both of those civilizations are full of compliant subjects that do whatever they are told. So neither of them are exactly desirable either.

Yep.

A balance is needed. America and those cultures are on the opposite extremes of one another, and both are basically failing/collapsing through issues created from these imbalances.

We should never try to recreate Asian style parenting. China is having a massive movement of younger generation who just don't want to work because of oversaturation in those fields, and working anything blue collar is looked down upon.

America had a huge focus during the 90s and 2000s of focusing on going to college over working a blue collar job, which led to a lot of colleges getting more money.

But importing third world workers WILL backfire when they do what they do best, get into a spot where they can hire people and only hire Indians.

Again, not replicating but achieving balance. Neither America and China/India have balance.

If America carries on its present course, Idiocracy is going to be a historical documentary, not satire.

 

[Bacle]

This is false Bacle you should talk to a lawyer or read for yourself and not just what you want to hear. The law says any child born on US territory who is subject to US laws automatically becomes a US citizen. The only time this does not apply is if the child's parents are diplomats with diplomatic immunity. Because they are not subject to US laws.

Chapter 3 - U.S. Citizens at Birth (INA 301 and 309)

A. General Requirements for Acquisition of Citizenship at BirthA person born in the United States who is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States

www.uscis.gov

United States v. Wong Kim Ark | Constitution Center

National Constitution Center Supreme Court Case Library: United States v. Wong Kim Ark

constitutioncenter.org

This is OLD settled case law on the interpretation of the 14th amendment. What you think and are saying is actually deeply un-American and goes against the opinion and interpretation of most constitutional scholars and jurisprudence. You may not like it but it's the truth.

And you (and liberal activist judges) are ignoring that the line about 'jurisdiction' in this instance is in regards to those laws mean that one of the child's parents must be a US citizen to be eligible for birthright citizenship, not jurisdiction as in 'is born on US soil' granting the child citizenship.

I've seen the bullshit line you tried to post before, it's a poor and pathetic attempt at a gotcha over immigration law.

But then again, that's all your good for, poor and pathetic gatcha attempts on me and others; you contribute nothing else to this site.

 

[King Arts]

Typical leftist bullshit of just calling people racist.
I also like how you pretend that american citizens are all a single race.

I mean there isn't an American race NOW. But under jus sanguine systems an American race would form. That's just how bloodlines work. People live in an area they adapt to it and they diverge from where they came from.

We can look at the Germanic races, you do know that Germany, Holland, and the English had a common originiator. They diverged and then they had their own seperate states/nations that gave rise to new races, and races can have sub groups. I mean even Germany when it was not flooded with immigrants was diverse. Their was Prussians, Bavarians, Saxons, etc. They are still Americans.

Same applies to Russia, and the same would apply to America if we closed down the migrants and let our sub cultures develop a bit more, there would be Southerners, New Englanders, etc.

 

[King Arts]

And you (and liberal activist judges) are ignoring that the line about 'jurisdiction' in this instance is in regards to those laws mean that one of the child's parents must be a US citizen to be eligible for birthright citizenship, not jurisdiction as in 'is born on US soil' granting the child citizenship.

I've seen the bullshit line you tried to post before, it's a poor and pathetic attempt at a gotcha over immigration law.

But then again, that's all your good for, poor and pathetic gatcha attempts on me and others; you contribute nothing else to this site.

So judges from over 100 years ago are liberal activist judges? And showing you how you are factually wrong legally is a gotcha now?

Bacle this is why racists are looked down upon. It's because you whine and say "No your wrong! My interpretation of the law is correct!" All respected legal scholars disagree with your take. Why the fuck should anyone listen or agree with your interpretation? The constitution is not fucking protestantism where any village drunk can give a valid interpretation only certain people were given the authority to decide what it means.

You can say that you don't give a shit about the Constitution and you have higher ideals or whatever. Then I'd have at least a little respect for you, but you won't. You'll claim that you are a "real follower of the Constitution" and what you are wanting is ok with the constitution.

 

[Bacle]

So judges from over 100 years ago are liberal activist judges? And showing you how you are factually wrong legally is a gotcha now?

Bacle this is why racists are looked down upon. It's because you whine and say "No your wrong! My interpretation of the law is correct!" All respected legal scholars disagree with your take. Why the fuck should anyone listen or agree with your interpretation? The constitution is not fucking protestantism where any village drunk can give a valid interpretation only certain people were given the authority to decide what it means.

You can say that you don't give a shit about the Constitution and you have higher ideals or whatever. Then I'd have at least a little respect for you, but you won't. You'll claim that you are a "real follower of the Constitution" and what you are wanting is ok with the constitution.

Yes, I can see you are doubling down on trying to ignore the differences in what 'jurisdiction' is supposed to mean, just like those activist judges did.

The law is that at least one parent must be under the jurisdiction of the US, aka is a US citizen, in order for a child to get birthright citizenship, and activist judges and Sanctuary Cities/States have been trying to ignore that part of the law, or pretend it doesn't exist, for a bit now.

Go ahead and rage and insult me, you pathetic little troll, it's all you are good for around here.

 

[Vyor]

Ok so you are a hypocrite who is ok with one side stealing land and kicking the other side into the desert to die, or go to Europe or whatever. But think it's a terrible atrocity for the other side to push the invader into the sea, or make them go back to Europe.

Can you shut the fuck up about morality when you have none and are acting far more evil than the Chinese or Indians?

They didn't steal land. They won it in wars that the other side started. Are you going to claim that allied occupied Germany was stolen land now too?

 

[King Arts]

Yes, I can see you are doubling down on trying to ignore the differences in what 'jurisdiction' is supposed to mean, just like those activist judges did.

The law is that at least one parent must be under the jurisdiction of the US, aka is a US citizen, in order for a child to get birthright citizenship, and activist judges and Sanctuary Cities/States have been trying to ignore that part of the law, or pretend it doesn't exist, for a bit now.

Go ahead and rage and insult me, you pathetic little troll, it's all you are good for around here.

Only 2 judges had that interpretation and 6 disagreed. The vast majority say your opinion is wrong and dumb. You are outvoted no jurisdiction means subject to the laws aka you can be sued or charged with a crime.

You not understanding this and rage posting makes me think you are either trolling or are just so racist and dumb it’s hopeless. Being racist is fine but stupidity is not.

 

[King Arts]

They didn't steal land. They won it in wars that the other side started. Are you going to claim that allied occupied Germany was stolen land now too?

They went to a new land and took it from the natives by force just because you have a big enough gang and call yourself an army and say it’s war doesn’t mean it’s not stealing.

Also So Russia isn’t stealing land? I swear neocon logic is the dumbest

 

[Bacle]

Only 2 judges had that interpretation and 6 disagreed. The vast majority say your opinion is wrong and dumb. You are outvoted no jurisdiction means subject to the laws aka you can be sued or charged with a crime.

You not understanding this and rage posting makes me think you are either trolling or are just so racist and dumb it’s hopeless. Being racist is fine but stupidity is not.

Nah, this is you just once again attempting a pathetic gatcha against me, because you have an obsession with trying to gatcha me and trying to call/label me a racist or whatever, any time you think you can find a way to do so.

In fact, most of the posts you've ever made on this site were pathetic gatcha attempts of one sort or another.

Guessing you do it to get screenshots to take back to SB or SV or FiC to get likes and what have you from your leftist butt buddies.

Frankly it's kinda hilarious how much you resort to baseless and inaccurate insults against me and anyone else who calls you out and treats you like the pathetic little troll you are.

So keep it coming, you're always good for a laugh.

 

[mrttao]

I mean there isn't an American race NOW. But under jus sanguine systems an American race would form. That's just how bloodlines work. People live in an area they adapt to it and they diverge from where they came from.

We can look at the Germanic races, you do know that Germany, Holland, and the English had a common originiator. They diverged and then they had their own seperate states/nations that gave rise to new races, and races can have sub groups. I mean even Germany when it was not flooded with immigrants was diverse. Their was Prussians, Bavarians, Saxons, etc. They are still Americans.

Same applies to Russia, and the same would apply to America if we closed down the migrants and let our sub cultures develop a bit more, there would be Southerners, New Englanders, etc.

> Oh no!
> Without constant replacement migration (genocide), the existing disparate people of america will crossbreed
> from such miscegination a new american race will come to exist in 1000 years.
> We must engage in constant nonstop replacement migration genocide to strangle this future race in the crib.

I can't believe you are seriously pushing such a dumbfuck argument.

Even if you were right about a new race forming, and 1000 years from now a new race will be born out of the american people...
why exactly is it such a bad thing that an american "race" might maybe possibly form far off in the future?

 

[Vyor]

They went to a new land and took it from the natives by force just because you have a big enough gang and call yourself an army and say it’s war doesn’t mean it’s not stealing.

Also So Russia isn’t stealing land? I swear neocon logic is the dumbest

So am I a liberal or a neocon?

And, no, Russia is waging an Offensive war, that is they attacked first.

Israel waged Defensive wars, that is they were attacked.

If you can not see the difference between these two states, you are an idiot.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

So am I a liberal or a neocon?

And, no, Russia is waging an Offensive war, that is they attacked first.

Israel waged Defensive wars, that is they were attacked.

If you can not see the difference between these two states, you are an idiot.

Honestly Israel is the only country allowed to fight a war to a logical conclusion which means doing some very necessary things that are not nice. This is a problem for the entire world because we all keep holding ourselves to unrealistic standards.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

This isn't some Hollywood movie, and most wars end with surrenders and peace treaties. Even the genocidal ones.

But getting back to the topic at hand, I'm starting to think that this isn't a debate on facts, it's a debate on our fundamental beliefs about hiring. It can't be solved by presenting facts and legal judgements.

 

[Captain X]

The reason America lags behind in education is that there has been an intentional dumbing down of our education that has gone on for decades, and this has little, if anything, to do with sports.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

America doesn't lag behind in education at all. It just leads by a little less than it used to.

 

[Blasterbot]

America doesn't lag behind in education at all. It just leads by a little less than it used to.

the current education system is not the same as the one you grew up with which wasn't the same as the one that made America the greatest country in the world. if other countries have issues that doesn't take away from us having fucked our kids over for generations.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

This is a WTF moment.