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[Bacle]

Let's at least give them the opportunity to walk it back though, before crucifying them.

Elon has already said he wants to remove 'root and stem' people in the GOP who aren't ok with massive increase in H1Bs and imported labor, or who call out that Indians brought over via H1Bs often go on to take HR positions where they only hire other Indians.

Vivek and Musk may be able to walk this back, if they realize their mistakes, but I am not betting on it, because they see the US as some team in a sports league, and not a nation with national security and economic security concerns their tech bros mindset doesn't seem to grasp.

Frankly at this point both are likely on their way out of MAGA's good graces and on the way out of political power within the Trump GOP.

 

[King Arts]

They started a war of extermination. They are losing that war.

Am I supposed to feel sympathy for those that support mass murder when said support gets them punished?

Ok so you are a hypocrite who is ok with one side stealing land and kicking the other side into the desert to die, or go to Europe or whatever. But think it's a terrible atrocity for the other side to push the invader into the sea, or make them go back to Europe.

Can you shut the fuck up about morality when you have none and are acting far more evil than the Chinese or Indians?

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Let's at least give them the opportunity to walk it back though, before crucifying them.

Yeah everyone is going to have at least one bad take otherwise they couldn't be considered human.

 

[King Arts]

That's where we must disagree. I'm infinitely more worried about Leftists ruining STEM education than not being able to compete with foreign labor. Only the former is an actual possibility.

Also, I want to assure you that I wouldn't dismiss your complaints even if you were racist- Which you obviously aren't. I don't concern myself with what prejudices people choose to hold as long as it's not damaging either them or me.

In this case, there is literally no threat to anyone. The labor market isn't static, jobs will actually rise once foreign labor boosts profits and therefore investments in expanding the tech sector. Native STEM students will be forced to git gud to match the foreigners, which can allow us to uproot the progressives in education that are dragging them down. The GDP will grow, and so will living standards.

....but once again, I will emphasize that this doesn't mean the inevitable Indian nepotistic circles won't be a problem.

Umm why do you disagree that your descendents won't ever be on the bottom? What makes you sure they will always be the most powerful instead of slaves or low wage? What makes you so confident in this superiority?

 

[Terthna]

Elon has already said he wants to remove 'root and stem' people in the GOP who aren't ok with massive increase in H1Bs and imported labor, or who call out that Indians brought over via H1Bs often go on to take HR positions where they only hire other Indians.

Vivek and Musk may be able to walk this back, if they realize their mistakes, but I am not betting on it, because they see the US as some team in a sports league, and not a nation with national security and economic security concerns their tech bros mindset doesn't seem to grasp.

Frankly at this point both are likely on their way out of MAGA's good graces and on the way out of political power within the Trump GOP.

That is not what he said in that tweet at all; he said that people in the Republican party that don't recognize people born in America as Americans because of their race should be removed. Are you going to tell me you don't agree with that?

 

[King Arts]

That is not what he said in that tweet at all; he said that people in the Republican party that don't recognize people born in America as Americans because of their race should be removed. Are you going to tell me you don't agree with that?

Well Bacle does want to remove birth right citizenship. That would lead to some sort of race based citizenship Jus sanguine instead of jus soli.

 

[Zachowon]

Vivek said that we should focus on the kind of education and strictness of Indian and Chinese families, and focus less on sports and that kinda culture.
You know the culture that has identified the US for generations

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Vivek said that we should focus on the kind of education and strictness of Indian and Chinese families, and focus less on sports and that kinda culture.
You know the culture that has identified the US for generations

I mean the current culture as in what has been going on for at least since the 90's led us to the current cess pitt we inhabit. So there does clearly need to be change.

 

[Bacle]

That is not what he said in that tweet at all; he said that people in the Republican party that don't recognize people born in America as Americans because of their race should be removed. Are you going to tell me you don't agree with that?

The Indian in that Scott Adams tweet is a Biden staffer, gaslighting about why people are having problems with H1Bs and with the Indians who often abuse them, and Elon agrees with it and is doubling down on it.

Elon and Neera are openly trying to gaslight about why people have a problem with H1Bs and the way Indians abuse them, while pretending that people don't have reasonable objections ot Indians abusing H1Bs to come over, then get into positions where they can do favorable hiring for more Indian H1Bs.

Well Bacle does want to remove birth right citizenship. That would lead to some sort of race based citizenship Jus sanguine instead of jus soli.

I want to remove anchorbabies and ensure birth tourism is no longer a thing.

If someone doesn't have at least one parent who is a US citizen, them being born on US doesn't make them an American.

Which is one of the things the Left loves to leave out of the immigration debate, that US law says someone is only a US citizen at birth, if one of their parents are, not simply if their parents engaged in birth tourism so their child could be born in the US while neither parent is a US citizen.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

Umm why do you disagree that your descendents won't ever be on the bottom? What makes you sure they will always be the most powerful instead of slaves or low wage? What makes you so confident in this superiority?

I can't guarantee anything in perpetuity. But there's no chance of that in the foreseeable future as long as the CCP and Hinduism exist to drain the two largest countries on Earth while Europe keeps sabotaging itself out of pride.

Elon has already said he wants to remove 'root and stem' people in the GOP who aren't ok with massive increase in H1Bs and imported labor, or who call out that Indians brought over via H1Bs often go on to take HR positions where they only hire other Indians.

Never knew he had it in him. Let's see if he can do it.

MAGA will die with Trump. But American conservativism shouldn't die with them.

 

[King Arts]

Vivek said that we should focus on the kind of education and strictness of Indian and Chinese families, and focus less on sports and that kinda culture.
You know the culture that has identified the US for generations

Zach what you just said was so stupid. Modern parenting is not the culture that has raised children in the US for generations. While we have never been quite so autistic as Indians and Chinese they are at least closer to historical parenting for European and Americans than the modern trash you think is historical.

 

[Jormungandr]

Vivek said that we should focus on the kind of education and strictness of Indian and Chinese families, and focus less on sports and that kinda culture.
You know the culture that has identified the US for generations

To be fair, overly focusing on sports than academics has helped Americans lag behind other cultures in education.

Combine that with education quality as a whole across [not private schooling but public, which the vast majority of Americans are educated in] the US going down the shitter, and you've got a recipe for disaster [and this isn't including the DEI racism and sexism shit going on which is poisoning things even further, too].

You have kids in the single digits unable to read and write properly, and thanks to brain rot they have the attention spans of tuna sandwiches. Meanwhile, Chinese parents are literally forcing their kids to learn calculus when they're like eleven or twelve.

Should kids be forced the same way Chinese or Indian parents force their kids to be little machines? No, of course not, but there needs to be balance; and, Americans are on the opposite end of Chinese/Indian educational standards.

People say that those YouTube videos of Americans being as thick as shit are staged or that they take the worst "cream of the crop" for the videos, but you have a lot of Americans who are that damned stupid who can't answer basic mathmatics or knowledge questions.

I mean, for fuck's sake, they think chocolate milk comes from brown cows. Unironically. facepalm

 

[King Arts]

I want to remove anchorbabies and ensure birth tourism is no longer a thing.

If someone doesn't have at least one parent who is a US citizen, them being born on US doesn't make them an American.

Which is one of the things the Left loves to leave out of the immigration debate, that US law says someone is only a US citizen at birth, if one of their parents are, not simply if their parents engaged in birth tourism so their child could be born in the US while neither parent is a US citizen.

Again you can't remove anchor babies without getting rid of jus soli. You'd be switching to a new system of American citizenship you'd be creating an "American race" You become an American by "blood" because you have a either mother or father who has American blood.

I'm not insulting you for it many states in the old world have this system. As long as you acknowledge it is race based I can accept it.

I can't guarantee anything in perpetuity. But there's no chance of that in the foreseeable future as long as the CCP and Hinduism exist to drain the two largest countries on Earth while Europe keeps sabotaging itself out of pride.

But again as we've seen in America those groups who lived comfortable life in the 50's or the Michigan automotive industry it fell apart, Americans could get nice easy jobs that took care of their families out of high school. That can't be done anymore why do you think you won't end up the same as the auto workers?

 

[Bacle]

Again you can't remove anchor babies without getting rid of jus soli. You'd be switching to a new system of American citizenship you'd be creating an "American race" You become an American by "blood" because you have a either mother or father who has American blood.

I'm not insulting you for it many states in the old world have this system. As long as you acknowledge it is race based I can accept it.

No, I would just be wanting laws on the books around immigration enforced as they are written.

Per standing US law (when not ignored for Sanctuary City/State policies) to be eligible for birthright citizenship, you must have at least one parent who is a US citizen. Nothing about race, just is one parent a US citizen at the time of the child's birth; if yes, eligible for birthright citizenship; if no, child is not eligible for US birthright citizenship.

A lot of the Left and corpo's just want the US public to ignore/forget that part of immigration law, and keep it out of the convo around illegal vs legal immigration.

 

[Terthna]

The Indian in that Scott Adams tweet is a Biden staffer, gaslighting about why people are having problems with H1Bs and with the Indians who often abuse them, and Elon agrees with it and is doubling down on it.

Does Elon know that? Maybe he just thinks this is a "broken clock is right twice a day" situation, and isn't looking any deeper than the surface level.

Elon and Neera are openly trying to gaslight about why people have a problem with H1Bs and the way Indians abuse them, while pretending that people don't have reasonable objections ot Indians abusing H1Bs to come over, then get into positions where they can do favorable hiring for more Indian H1Bs.

I just think it's way too early for you to be making that assertion. You don't actually know that; you're just assuming the worst.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

To be fair, overly focusing on sports than academics has helped Americans lag behind other cultures in education.

Combine that with education quality as a whole across [not private schooling but public, which the vast majority of Americans are educated in] the US going down the shitter, and you've got a recipe for disaster [and this isn't including the DEI racism and sexism shit going on which is poisoning things even further, too].

You have kids in the single digits unable to read and write properly, and thanks to brain rot they have the attention spans of tuna sandwiches. Meanwhile, Chinese parents are literally forcing their kids to learn calculus when they're like eleven or twelve.

Should kids be forced the same way Chinese or Indian parents force their kids to be little machines? No, of course not, but there needs to be balance; and, Americans are on the opposite end of Chinese/Indian educational standards.

People say that those YouTube videos of Americans being as thick as shit are staged or that they take the worst "cream of the crop" for the videos, but you have a lot of Americans who are that damned stupid who can't answer basic mathmatics or knowledge questions.

I mean, for fuck's sake, they think chocolate milk comes from brown cows. Unironically. facepalm

There has to be some balance because while our own civilization is a cess pitt both of those civilizations are full of compliant subjects that do whatever they are told. So neither of them are exactly desirable either.

 

[Zachowon]

To be fair, overly focusing on sports than academics has helped Americans lag behind other cultures in education.

Combine that with education quality as a whole across [not private schooling but public, which the vast majority of Americans are educated in] the US going down the shitter, and you've got a recipe for disaster [and this isn't including the DEI racism and sexism shit going on which is poisoning things even further, too].

You have kids in the single digits unable to read and write properly, and thanks to brain rot they have the attention spans of tuna sandwiches. Meanwhile, Chinese parents are literally forcing their kids to learn calculus when they're like eleven or twelve.

Should kids be forced the same way Chinese or Indian parents force their kids to be little machines? No, of course not, but there needs to be balance; and, Americans are on the opposite end of Chinese/Indian educational standards.

People say that those YouTube videos of Americans being as thick as shit are staged or that they take the worst "cream of the crop" for the videos, but you have a lot of Americans who are that damned stupid who can't answer basic mathmatics or knowledge questions.

I mean, for fuck's sake, they think chocolate milk comes from brown cows. Unironically. facepalm

We should never try to recreate Asian style parenting. China is having a massive movement of younger generation who just don't want to work because of oversaturation in those fields, and working anything blue collar is looked down upon.

America had a huge focus during the 90s and 2000s of focusing on going to college over working a blue collar job, which led to a lot of colleges getting more money.

But importing third world workers WILL backfire when they do what they do best, get into a spot where they can hire people and only hire Indians.

 

[mrttao]

Again you can't remove anchor babies without getting rid of jus soli. You'd be switching to a new system of American citizenship you'd be creating an "American race" You become an American by "blood" because you have a either mother or father who has American blood.

Typical leftist bullshit of just calling people racist.
I also like how you pretend that american citizens are all a single race.

 

[Bacle]

Does Elon know that? Maybe he just thinks this is a "broken clock is right twice a day" situation, and isn't looking any deeper than the surface level.

I don't think so, he likely hasn't done any background on Neera before agreeing with her take.

I just think it's way too early for you to be making that assertion. You don't actually know that; you're just assuming the worst.

No, I've seen people repeatedly trying to make that point to Elon, and present evidence, and Elon doesn't want to see or hear it, and just dismisses it as racism.

 

[mrttao]

We should never try to recreate Asian style parenting. China is having a massive movement of younger generation who just don't want to work because of oversaturation in those fields, and working anything blue collar is looked down upon.

That isn't why. its because they gave up on life. realizing how much everything sucks and they have zero reason to participate in society, just to be a slave to enrich the oligarchs.