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If ever there was a perfect argument to be made for capital punishment it would be people like this.
Yea. also, none of the MSM are reporting on it. Only a few right wing sources report on this story

For the rest they are trying to memory hole it because it goes against their narrative
 
You wanted to nuke it and make it a nuclear wasteland. Why wouldn't race come up in a huge genocidal thing like that. I mean you can own it I don't care if you are racist or not.

About the only thing you said that was right, was that large parts of Indian culture is evil. I don't know enough to say if ALL of it is, but lots of it is pagan and backwards, filled with Hindu superstition, and literal shit eating. I can agree with that.
This strike a bell? How it's the people that are evil and deserve to be nuked?

The people are evil because their culture is evil. Just like Iran, Pakistan, and Palestine.

Is this somehow incorrect?
 
Yea. also, none of the MSM are reporting on it. Only a few right wing sources report on this story

For the rest they are trying to memory hole it because it goes against their narrative


It's one of those stories that makes your blood boil. Only consolation is that the two of those sick fucks will very likely get what they have coming in prison considering their crimes.
 
The people are evil because their culture is evil. Just like Iran, Pakistan, and Palestine.

Is this somehow incorrect?
Yes Iranian and Palestinian culture isn't evil. That you say this makes me think the culture of you hillbilly hovel is evil and America should go and make sure the kids are raised in another environment.
 
Yes Iranian and Palestinian culture isn't evil. That you say this makes me think the culture of you hillbilly hovel is evil and America should go and make sure the kids are raised in another environment.
They're not "evil," they're ignorant and brainwashed. Big difference.

Ah yes, because mass voting for the people calling for genocide isn't evil. My mistake.
 
Ah yes, because mass voting for the people calling for genocide isn't evil. My mistake.
You sound like a MAGA-deranged liberal chastising people you don't know for who they vote for. Why did people vote Democrat these past few elections? Easy: because both parties are fucking dogshit. As Lewis Black said; 'I don't know if you've noticed, but our two-party system is a bowl of shit looking at itself in the mirror.' I'm sure the same can be said for Iran, Pakistan and Gaza.
 
Indians tend to work harder, longer hours, for cheaper, while also being more competent.

I say this as someone who has hired a few indians on Visas and also hires primarily Americans.

Americans need to step up their game and become more productive and more competent. No, I don't want 60 hours a week out of you. 50 during crunch time, usually 40. They'll whine about burn out when i am only asking them to do 40. 45 on some weeks... while Lokesh over there will do 50 without even being asked.

As is, I face a bunch of right out of college kids wanting 100k while not having any real experience. Why wouldn't I hire Tippusultan who can work fucking circles around you, and doesn't whine about EVERYTHING like a God damned baby, and he'll do it for 30k less?

So the problem is two-fold. Maybe we should limit the amount of Visas holders that we can import, but its not like we're hiring worse workers just to save money. They tend to be better workers, too. Americans need to become more competent. We are currently in a competency crisis, and it really shows when you're trying to hire for skilled positions.

So take all emotion out of it and ask yourself, if you're running a business, what do you choose?

A: whiney spoiled brat who complains about everything, isn't very good at the job, will take 6 months or longer before becoming competent if it even happens, for $100k, or,

B: highly competent individual who does not complain about anything, only needs a week or two of training, works circles around option A, will do longer hours, and will do it all for $70k.

Easy choice.

Boomers and millennials and our education system have utterly failed these newer generations. They're coming out of school with no real skills, but they can tell you about the 75 genders and institutional racism and whine and whine and cause HR nightmares like there's no tomorrow. Meanwile I can hire Harjeet for cheaper and actually get the job done.
No amount of cheaper labor makes up for the weakening and undercutting of US native born labor.

Nations are not sports teams like Musk and Vivek seem to think, and just going with Indians for cheaper tech labor is why the tech sector is not friends with the populist Right, just hangers on.

Musk and Vivek are going to learn that tech bro priorities are not MAGA priorities, and that there are other concerns besides money when it comes to tech, because of things like ITAR.

I think Musk and Vivek are going to learn the hard way to stay in their fucking lane, or lose their support in MAGA, and right now a lot of people who supported DOGE are now wondering if it's just a trojan horse to try to install a lot of H1B's into the US government.

America First means hiring Americans First.
 
No amount of cheaper labor makes up for the weakening and undercutting of US native born labor.

Nations are not sports teams like Musk and Vivek seem to think, and just going with Indians for cheaper tech labor is why the tech sector is not friends with the populist Right, just hangers on.

Musk and Vivek are going to learn that tech bro priorities are not MAGA priorities, and that there are other concerns besides money when it comes to tech, because of things like ITAR.

I think Musk and Vivek are going to learn the hard way to stay in their fucking lane, or lose their support in MAGA, and right now a lot of people who supported DOGE are now wondering if it's just a trojan horse to try to install a lot of H1B's into the US government.

America First means hiring Americans First.
Don't you get it Bacle, DOGE and America First means efficiency. Which is done by hiring cheaper labor because they are more efficient then native labor.
Because they get paid less and work more hours
 
Don't you get it Bacle, DOGE and America First means efficiency. Which is done by hiring cheaper labor because they are more efficient then native labor.
Because they get paid less and work more hours
Yeah, that does seem like it may be the real goal of DOGE, not just slimming down the fed gov.

Which means Elon and Vivek probably have lost massive amounts of support and political good will on the Right, chosing to pick this fight.
 
How about we move away from the delusion that any one faction can dictate terms to other elements of Trump's big tent coalition. Musk is not Bannon, he has his own supporters and his own powerbase, which Trump desperately needs to not get a repeat of his last administration's years with a Republican majority. Sure has hell RFK Jr's MAHA types are their own power too.

It's likely that some sort of deal can be struck with actually enforcing H1b requirements on equal pay and seriously considering domestic hires as a part of general streamlining. But do try to recall how it turned out for the last bunch to think they can dictate terms and run a purity spiral on Musk. Keep in mind that no matter what you think about the sports team analogy, Trump himself values winning more than any ideology.
 
Then by the end of these first 4 years when you see immigrants hiring immigrants over Americans and wonder why we have such a massive unemployment rate, don't go crying for help.

Trump has a whole platform against immigration via H1B.
The most corrupt visa.

If Musk and Vivek pointed out the 01 or other ones to use, makes sense.
But H1B has always been used to undercut Americans and will continue to be.
Musk specifically uses it to undercut a lot of positions at Tesla
 
How about we move away from the delusion that any one faction can dictate terms to other elements of Trump's big tent coalition. Musk is not Bannon, he has his own supporters and his own powerbase, which Trump desperately needs to not get a repeat of his last administration's years with a Republican majority. Sure has hell RFK Jr's MAHA types are their own power too.

It's likely that some sort of deal can be struck with actually enforcing H1b requirements on equal pay and seriously considering domestic hires as a part of general streamlining. But do try to recall how it turned out for the last bunch to think they can dictate terms and run a purity spiral on Musk. Keep in mind that no matter what you think about the sports team analogy, Trump himself values winning more than any ideology.
Trump has already won, so Musk isn't critical to please anymore.

Musk and Vivek are going to learn the hard way that MAGA and Trump supporters aren't going to let them dictate immigration policy, and may not even get to do DOGE anymore, if they don't walk this shit back.
 
Not a very logical debate here, and I fear this very much won't have a logical result. You MAGAts can rest assured that Trump probably shares your beliefs and will tank the economy because he shares your caveman brained paranoia about literally everyone outside "his" tribe.

With that said, I hope you realize that the tech industry will get it's global talent, with Trump or without him.

They can afford to wait.
 
I have to wonder if anyone was stupid enough to think Musk the immigrant would ever have supported zero immigration? Or that Trump, whose wife came in on H1b would ever be their puppet for this?

Then by the end of these first 4 years when you see immigrants hiring immigrants over Americans and wonder why we have such a massive unemployment rate, don't go crying for help.

Trump has a whole platform against immigration via H1B.
The most corrupt visa.

If Musk and Vivek pointed out the 01 or other ones to use, makes sense.
But H1B has always been used to undercut Americans and will continue to be.
Musk specifically uses it to undercut a lot of positions at Tesla
Yeah, Trump's platform against H1b, that proposes instead a general grant of green cards for graduates from student visas that satisfy certain conditions. I'm sure some sort of deal could be worked out along those lines, but something tells me that's not going to satisfy the purity spiral.

Trump has already won, so Musk isn't critical to please anymore.

Musk and Vivek are going to learn the hard way that MAGA and Trump supporters aren't going to let them dictate immigration policy, and may not even get to do DOGE anymore, if they don't walk this shit back.
There's that delusional purity spiral. And hilariously off base too. Musk was probably unnecessary for winning the election, except in providing X which he had already done, instead he's far more critical to please now that bending Congress is the critical stumbling block to getting anything done.
 

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