Breaking News FBI raids Trump's Mar-a-Largo Resort home

[Floridaman]

Okay, so seriously, what solution do you propose?

easy, refuse to cooperate on anything... block every peace of legislation, espescially any budget proposal to push the government to shut down. All the while, increase the power of the states and refuse to cooperate at all with any central authority, finally increase polarization even more for national divorce. let the regime join the Soviet Union in the garbage bin of history.

 

[Rocinante]

Okay, so seriously, what solution do you propose?

I'm not Floridaman, but I quite literally want to disband the FBI and build a new entity in its place, with a clearly defined mission and a tight leash.

The FBI is politicized from the ground up and may have gone rogue if they are doing rhese actions on their own. They've got to go.

 

[Floridaman]

I'm not Floridaman, but I quite literally want to disband the FBI and build a new entity in its place, with a clearly defined mission and a tight leash.

The FBI is politicized from the ground up and may have gone rogue if they are doing rhese actions on their own. They've got to go.

They were rogue from the start, read Trumans writings on it.... Hoover literally was blackmailing congress and presidents from the beginning.

 

[Tiamat]

easy, refuse to cooperate on anything... block every peace of legislation, espescially any budget proposal to push the government to shut down. All the while, increase the power of the states and refuse to cooperate at all with any central authority, finally increase polarization even more for national divorce. let the regime join the Soviet Union in the garbage bin of history.

You want the United States to “join the USSR in the dustbin of history” am I quoting you right?

 

[Floridaman]

You want the United States to “join the USSR in the dustbin of history” am I quoting you right?

the central government yes, if you want to save the ideals the founders fought for, then I fail to see any other path. The constitution has not stopped the government at all, like the anti federalists warned. At present the US is more of a mockery of what they fought for than anything else.

 

[Sobek]

Lost control, isn’t the correct word.... the last few years have proven neither the American people nor their ”leaders“ have any control over the people who claim to work for them at all.

Lost Control also implies Biden was ever in charge of anything. Which is obviously not the case.

 

[Floridaman]

Lost Control also implies Biden was ever in charge of anything. Which is obviously not the case.

Sure he was, he seems to have had a lot of control over hunters business deals.

 

[Tiamat]

the central government yes, if you want to save the ideals the founders fought for, then I fail to see any other path. The constitution has not stopped the government at all, like the anti federalists warned. At present the US is more of a mockery of what they fought for than anything else.

You’re calling to outright disband the United States then. Sorry, not onboard with that, we’re not at that extreme yet, and not happening either. Not to mention, that goes against the oath myself and others swore to uphold.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

1. Win the House and Senate.
2. Let the Patriot Act Sunset without a vote
3. Pass laws that peel back the duties and responsibilities of the Alphabet agencies.
4. Pass an actual budget that heavily reduces funding to said agencies while gutting the IRS so they have to fire/let go 100,000 employees.
5. Win the Presidency and maintain control of Congress
6. GUT the federal agencies starting with every member of the DC offices of every agency. These agencies should not exist at the political centerpoint. If any member of your agency is married to the media, they are let go due to conflict of interest. If any member is/or is married to Antifa/Socialist/Commie they lose their clearance and thus job for the same reason.
7. Tell every federal employee that they must submit a new Resume and Application for their job. Everyone is getting let go on date X. If they aren't hired for that position or choose not to apply, that will be their date of separation. It's likely we'll only hire 1/4 of you back b/c we'll only have 1/2 the positions then.

 

[Bacle]

You want the United States to “join the USSR in the dustbin of history” am I quoting you right?

That became damn near an inevitability when the 2020 election was stolen, and this raid just helped confirm the trajectory of this nation.

Short of a Constitutional Convention to root out a lot of the corruption, from the entry level to Congress, the cultural gangrene will simply keep spreading and the Dems/unelected bureaucrats in DC and they will keep getting away wit shit like this raid.

You’re calling to outright disband the United States then. Sorry, not onboard with that, we’re not at that extreme yet, and not happening either. Not to mention, that goes against the oath myself and others swore to uphold.

Your oath is to the Constitution, not the Pentagon or DC.

You want to save our Constitution from being worth barely more than toilet paper?

Then you need to be willing to admit the rot is is deeper than can be fixed with questionably secure elections, or any amount of hopeful aspirations connected to electoral outcomes.

You need to be willing to face the fact that the powers in DC are the ones disobeying the Constitution and the ones most likely to destroy it's protections of US citizens.

And you also need to realize that people have every fucking right to look side-eye at the military and military members these days, when they are willing serving a illegit gov and have demonstrated repeatedly that most military members care more about their small paychecks and career prospects than about protecting the Constitution.

So stop getting angry at people for having reasonable doubts about the US gov and military, and start getting angry at the people who blew all the public trust.

 

[CurtisLemay]

I would argue the FBI at the very least needs this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mollen_Commission

 

[Floridaman]

You’re calling to outright disband the United States then. Sorry, not onboard with that, we’re not at that extreme yet, and not happening either. Not to mention, that goes against the oath myself and others swore to uphold.

Either disband or cripple it, to restore the 10th ammendment of the bill of rights to actually meaning something, rather than the completely forgotten words of the founders. “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. But then I understand the refusal to embrace that, I once believed the system as it stands could be fixed.... it took years of knowing congressmen and bureaucrats to shatter that illusion.

 

[posh-goofiness]

You’re calling to outright disband the United States then. Sorry, not onboard with that, we’re not at that extreme yet, and not happening either. Not to mention, that goes against the oath myself and others swore to uphold.

It's not calling for the disbandment of the United States when you refuse to cooperate. Don't be ridiculous.

On the other hand, should an unwarrantable measure of the federal government be unpopular in particular States, which would seldom fail to be the case, or even a warrantable measure be so, which may sometimes be the case, the means of opposition to it are powerful and at hand. The disquietude of the people; their repugnance and, perhaps, refusal to co-operate with the officers of the Union; the frowns of the executive magistracy of the State; the embarrassments created by legislative devices, which would often be added on such occasions, would oppose, in any State, difficulties not to be despised; would form, in a large State, very serious impediments; and where the sentiments of several adjoining States happened to be in unison, would present obstructions which the federal government would hardly be willing to encounter.

 

[Floridaman]

That became damn near an inevitability when the 2020 election was stolen, and this raid just helped confirm the trajectory of this nation.

Short of a Constitutional Convention to root out a lot of the corruption, from the entry level to Congress, the cultural gangrene will simply keep spreading and the Dems/unelected bureaucrats in DC and they will keep getting away wit shit like this raid.
Your oath is to the Constitution, not the Pentagon or DC.

You want to save our Constitution from being worth barely more than toilet paper?

Then you need to be willing to admit the rot is is deeper than can be fixed with questionably secure elections, or any amount of hopeful aspirations connected to electoral outcomes.

You need to be willing to face the fact that the powers in DC are the ones disobeying the Constitution and the ones most likely to destroy it's protections of US citizens.

And you also need to realize that people have every fucking right to look side-eye at the military and military members these days, when they are willing serving a illegit gov and have demonstrated repeatedly that most military members care more about their small paychecks and career prospects than about protecting the Constitution.

So stop getting angry at people for having reasonable doubts about the US gov and military, and start getting angry at the people who blew all the public trust.

To be fair it is natural people don't want to see it. Wanting to believe in a cause they sacrificed for is natural, so you can't fault the instinctual push back

 

[TyrantTriumphant]

Perhaps we should make a new thread to discuss secession/possible civil war. This seems to be going off topic.

 

[Tiamat]

Perhaps we should make a new thread to discuss secession/possible civil war. This seems to be going off topic.

To be fair there are Several threads about that on this forum already. It seems people here want to keep talking about civil war a bit too loosely and often.

 

[CurtisLemay]

Guys, let's table the secession/civil war talk. I am asking nice, out of mod mode. I will say that FBI/Government reform might also be worth a separate thread as well.

 

[Typhonis]

I hate the Antichrist so much it's unreal.

Normal is not returning, Jesus is.

 

[Floridaman]

Normal is not returning, Jesus is.

It is pronounced Hey-zeus, and can you blame me judging by the border everyone is.
P.s. I don't mean offense, just couldn't resist the joke.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I'm not Floridaman, but I quite literally want to disband the FBI and build a new entity in its place, with a clearly defined mission and a tight leash.

The FBI is politicized from the ground up and may have gone rogue if they are doing rhese actions on their own. They've got to go.

Read up on the corrupt sack of shit who founded the BOI in 1908 and how Harry Daugherty got Hoover put there because he gave good blow job's a couple decades later.

The FBI has been a diseased institution filled with groomers, mob involved animals, occult involved freaks and seditious dirtbags since its inception. The only reason they got a free pass for so long is because the CIA and the communists were somehow even more overt and degenerate.

And this is why I say adopt Vietnam era baby killer chant type approaches.

Do not serve your local glowie, if he is your neighbor, make sure you and the rest of the neighborhood cut him off, refuse to let your children play with his. Publish pamphlets calling him and all his peers criminals.

Clam up whenever he is around and make sure everyone in the neighborhood glares frightfully at him as if he could have them or their children harmed at a moments notice.

Organize civil protests outside federal buildings where when alphabet people go in they see signs like "remember Wacos dead" and "hey, hey DOJ how many kids did you kill today?" Etc.

Make it so that federal agents can't find emotional peace and their own spouses and kids start to resent them because they've lost all their friends and are thrown out of the local social clubs.

While doing this do everything @Floridaman has been suggesting to restore power to the Union and restore a responsible Federal Government that serves the states and the citizens of those states.

Federal law enforcement officers need to feel as demoralized as the average citizen and even more blackpilled.

The Federal bureaucracy needs to be starved and our academic and managerial classes need to be demonized in the media and defunded in the public.

You want the United States to “join the USSR in the dustbin of history” am I quoting you right?

...Are you saying there's no difference between the our Republic and the Cartel of Chinese backed criminals running the government?

Que cosa!?