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Breaking News FBI raids Trump's Mar-a-Largo Resort home

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This was quite possibly the stupidest thing the DNC can do long term.

This is a two party adveseral system for reasons of self preservation the republicans have to retailate in kind. They no longer have a choice. And the democrats are a lot more vulnerable to this shit then the republicans are for the simple fact that the media bias means that if your right wing and dirty you get caught, where as the media covers for the democrats.

Which means they end up doing worse shit that can hit you with real jail time.

We will see raids on democrats in response to this with in the next few years it will most likely start after november.
No, we won't.

Again, nothing is going to happen aside from some angry tweets. Just like with everything else that has happened.
 
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Honestly, trying to look at this is non-partisanly as possible, did it occur to anyone at all before signing off this raid that, maybe, juuuust maybe, doing a full-blown raid including breaking into personal safes etc. might have been a wee bit of an overreaction about a bunch of documents where the only bone of contention is that they ought to be in the natl. archives? Did, at any point in their thought processm it occur to them that not only is this utterly overblown, but also will only embolden the man they're trying to hurt? Can people actually be that daft?
 
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No, we won't.

Again, nothing is going to happen aside from some angry tweets.
Dude this was a massive crossing of a red line.

This is now a survival issue, this means all former presidents are now fair game, this is one of those fuck ups that changes history.

With what agency?
State and local police is how it will start.
 

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Dude this was a massive crossing of a red line.

This is now a survival issue, this means all former presidents are now fair game, this is one of those fuck ups that changes history.
If Gopecells wanna commit suicide by bending over and pretending the reaming is just a prostate exam then all the better for the New Right.

But I don't think they will this time. I think this is too much even for those cowards.
 

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Dude this was a massive crossing of a red line.
So was stealing the election, for which the evidence is piling up, and yet nothing is happening.

Just like with everything else that happens. You'll say how this crosses a line, and how people are going to have a moment where they say "enough," and stop giving a fuck. Then I'll tell you how it's not happening, and then as absolutely nothing happens, You'll make some comparison to Rome or and how we are just 80 short years from a revolution and how it's going to be really ugly before it gets better.

They aren't going to face any repercussions for this. At MOST, Some weak, ineffectual republicans reps and governors will make some angry tweets, MAYBE a governor or two will pass some weak law with no legs. Then we will all move on as if nothing happened.

What this WILL do is fire up Trump's base for the midterms.

If people thought that repealing RvW would hurt the red wave, this just added a metric ton of gasoline to that fire and cancelled out whatever detrimental effect RvW theoretically may have had.

Look, Cherico, I wish like 5% of your predictions were right. We'd be living in a very different country. As it stands, you and I sound like broken records. You make the same predictions every time the left does something, I tell you it's not happening, then nothing happens and we move on to the next topic and repeat.

If it wasn't all so predictable, I'd feel like a fucking prophet at this point.

Those involved with this will get away with it. When my predictions start to be wrong, I will start to make new ones, but as of now I'm pretty much batting 100 with this shit.
 
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Honestly, trying to look at this is non-partisanly as possible, did it occur to anyone at all before signing off this raid that, maybe, juuuust maybe, doing a full-blown raid including breaking into personal safes etc. might have been a wee bit of an overreacting about a bunch of documents where the only bone of contention is that they ought to be in the natl. archives? Did, at any point in their thought processm it occur to them that not only is this utterly overblown, but also will only embolden the man they're trying to hurt? Can people actually be that daft?
It's pretty standard for the justice department.

They raided stone I believe. Super early morning with fully kitted out fbi agents. And CNN tipped off before hand to be there at a certain time to get pictures that looked good for the Russia gate propaganda.

They raided project Veritas as well. The guy had Biden's daughters diary sent to him but the stuff in it was so bad he sent it to the fbi and sat on the story. Then the fully kitted out fbi raided him and took all his documents because he might have copies of illegally obtained literature, aka the diary. Oh then the fbi leaked everything they could from his stuff to the NYT.

This raid is just one more example of two tiers of justice. One tier is protected and the other targeted.

Arrest them all and go through the FBIs stuff with a fine toothed comb. Release the good agents and try the rest for sedition.
 

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Dude this was a massive crossing of a red line.

This is now a survival issue, this means all former presidents are now fair game, this is one of those fuck ups that changes history.

State and local police is how it will start.
the Bush files and the Clinton files are gonna be very, very interesting.

not to mention the Obama files
 

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Not american, but the USA gives me a vibe of late Roman Republic combined with eunuch government trough a puppet emperor (Biden). I don't think the problem is that the rule of law will be reinstated (it won't) but who will be Caesar and grab total power. The whole system is so corrupt that i don't know how it could continue for long.
 

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Holy Shit! The amount of glee and hate being spewed by the left is fascinating since only in religious conflicts I seen such vitriol or the I really need to wean myself of the Youtube comment section😅. With the current economic climate and Mr. Hunter little misdeeds being actively ignored by the FBI, I just hope this doesn't backfire for anybody involve.

Man, I remember USA finger wagging at my country about using the Justice Department at the Opposition Parties and now I have ammunition if ever I bother indulging in a little "Whataboutism"🥳.

But joking aside I hope this won't erupt into violence. I already punched Smallpox because of Monkeypox, a Balkan War and Alien invasion in my 2022 Bingo card that I might include American Civil War.:cautious:
 

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Dude this was a massive crossing of a red line.

This is now a survival issue, this means all former presidents are now fair game, this is one of those fuck ups that changes history.



State and local police is how it will start.
Nothing will come of this, or at least nothing but some performative sound bites, in all likelihood.

The Dems will try to cheat again this fall, and in 2024, and well...do not expect a Red Wave to be 'allowed' to happen. Expect any GOP candidate who poses a threat to the Dems in a to get the same treatment Trump is getting, in order to be 'forced off the ballot'.

I hope and pray I am wrong on this, but I'm not going to pretend that this is likely to result in any sort of 'general uprising' in the public or even just on the Right.

The Republic is dead, we could not 'keep it' as the Founders warned, and now...now we have to get used to living in Neo-Venezuela and what that means.
 

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From the Left's perspective I see a few goals for them in this action:
1. The most obvious is GET TRUMP!! Remove him as a threat so he can no longer run for President. This protects the bureaucrats from the biggest enemy they can see.
2. It's going to show the Left's base that, "See! We're working to protect the Democracy from evulz!" Fires up their base, and gets them talking about how awesome the people I charge are...instead of nonsense like purely transitory inflation that's Trump's falt anyway.
3. Notice that it was a Monday evening when the raid took place? The Left WANTS us tlking about this. They want our eyes on this so we don't pay attention to everything else they're doing. I'd keep a very close eye on Congress, Presidential EOs and all the bureaus/regulatory bodies right now.
 

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They did just pass the Inflation Reduction act which wants to print more money and double the IRS staffing. Probably this is meant to distract from that, which I have a fewling it wont.
 

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They did just pass the Inflation Reduction act which wants to print more money and double the IRS staffing. Probably this is meant to distract from that, which I have a fewling it wont.
This is what the founding fathers warned against. The federal government has grown to large and to powerful, and now we have an administration that gives zero fucks about the rights of the people or the republican governmental processes.

We let this happen, our parents let this happen, and our grandparents let this happen.

It's grim, and we very well may already be past the point of no return.
 
Don't call the raid a raid

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Remember guys the FBI has stated that they dislike the term "raid" to be applied to their raid on Trump's house. Please avoid reffering to the raid as a raid in future discussions of the FBI raid as they dislikr using that term (raid).

They would preffer you call the raid a search warrant execution, not a raid.
 
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