Breaking News FBI raids Trump's Mar-a-Largo Resort home

[The Whispering Monk]

Sounds about as made up as the 'he grabbed the wheel' BS.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

The ammo box is farce, and I've said this numerous times.

The only people who honestly think the ammo box can solve anything are fools who do not want to contemplate all the tools we used in the ME to hunt terrorists being aimed back state-side, or that fact that DC has unassailable orbital assets and nukes, if things really do try to kick off with a 'rebellion'.

Haven't we had an entire thread about what a God damn nightmare an armed insurgency would be? Even bloody lefties recognise it would be a long and nasty affair. There are at least tens of thousands of trained marksmen who can disappear off into the woodlands of America and not be easily found, and they'd be the tip of the iceberg in such a situation. Guerrilla warfare is viciously effective and there's a bunch of yanks kitted out to do just that.

And DC isn't bloody stupid enough to use nuclear weapons on homeland soil. They'd get removed for that very quickly.

There will never be another 1776 moment, and no amount of Wolverine's or Valley Forge LARP will change a damn thing we are facing now.

That sort of attitude would have ensured 1776 never happened in the first place. Your forefathers faced a far more formidable enemy and worse odds, and still prevailed. Your constant insistence on despair is frankly embarrassing and a tad annoying. And this is from the perspective of an Englishman who's country is in a much worse state than yours. However, as I have a sense of loyalty, I understand that I am not permitted to give up on my homeland and am indeed compelled to spite the cowards that do so.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Trump wasn't even there, he was in New York, which shows just how fucking dumb the average SB poster is.

If a guy's fast enough to shred untold thousands of documents and flush them all down the toilet in the time it takes the FBI to run up a flight of stairs, he can probably also run from New York to Florida in the same timeframe.

...how do you flush documents down a toilet?🤔

I mean, that Trump has superpowers is pretty well accepted isn't it?

 

[Bacle]

Oh my God, just stop it! I'm so sick and tired of your black pilled doomerism.

And I'm fucking tired of the GOP 'assured Red Wave' cope, and for anyone who doesn't go along with it to be labelled a 'black pill'.

You know damn well I tried to keep going with what amount to a false hope Trump could remain in office a lot longer than most here.

I lost a lot of friends and a lot of respect of people I care about in order to come out for Trump years ago, and since I did my life and the society we have to live in has only gotten worse in pretty much every measurable way.

I swallowed a bottle of fucking red pills to do what I did, the return on it has been abysmal, and when I'm tired of going along with the cope GOP diehards like you and others just tell me to shut up.

This is why I will not register as a member of the GOP, when this is what happens why you don't go along with the cope.

What is increasingly clear is that the Deep state has seriously mistepped using trumped up charges in an unprecedented raid, on a sitting presidents clear political rival. Even the smart democrats know that is a crossing the Rubicon moment. Because if and when Trump takes power in 2024, guess what he's about to do? He's already got the fundamentals in place to purge a good chunk of the Federal government and hire on American first patriots to replace them.

Whether this is a deep state misstep, or not, remains to be seen.

And frankly, as I've said, I fully expect they will JFK Trump before they let him back into office.

He's doomering on PF Discord right now.

And you forgot to mention I'm not the only one there who actually is willing to admit this sort of thing, instead of going along with the cope.

 

[BlackDragon98]

Wow. So I guess the FBI's response to Trump threatening a purge of government employees if/when he retakes the White House in 2024 is to justify such a purge before all 300+ million Americans with two years to go. OK then.

Y'know I've seen a lot of comparisons made between Current Year America and the late Roman Republic on this forum, but maybe a Late Antiquity comparison would be a better one for the FBI & all those other alphabet agencies. If they are so determined to demonstrate that they are well and truly nothing but the Democrats' Praetorian Guard, then they should be given the same treatment as that which Constantine the Great meted out to the original Praetorians after kicking their asses at the Milvian Bridge. I absolutely don't believe some of the claims flying around now that the White House didn't know about this either, no fucking way the FBI decides to raid a former president's residence (something they didn't do even for the likes of Nixon) without orders from high above - either Biden ordered it himself or this is the most obvious sign yet that someone else is running the US into the ground through him, and he & Harris should be impeached at the earliest opportunity in either case.

Interesting to note that, although it hasn't even been 24 hours since the raid went down, if it was intended to intimidate Trump & his supporters it seems to have backfired already. Obviously Trump and his sons are raging where they can online, but other Republicans (including DeSantis, the only one who can possibly stand any chance of challenging him in '24) have overwhelmingly rallied to condemn the raid and apparently many Trump supporters started rallying in front of Mar-a-Lago right after the news broke. For whatever it's worth, the reaction I'm seeing online seems to herald an end to any potential Trump/DeSantis split before it really begins as well, since even people who were leaning toward the latter are so outraged that they're reuniting back under the former now. And even left-wing (Dem and RINO alike) talking heads like Andrew Cuomo, Meghan McCain and Andrew Yang are starting to talk about how this raid was a bad idea.

Hope the backlash gets much, much worse in the days to come and becomes absolutely nuclear by November. Once again the Dems have sowed the wind, now may they reap one of Florida's famous hurricanes.

They're scared of the consequences if the hounds of war are let loose.

I'd like to point out that "all those tools" ultimately didn't win jackshit in the middle east.

I'll start with the ballet box, but I'm not about to toss out my ammo box.

just a friendly reminder that various US Gov. departments have stocked up on ammo (they caused the price of ammo to jump)

hope this helps somewhere down the road!

Trump wasn't even there, he was in New York, which shows just how fucking dumb the average SB poster is.

SB = Simply Brainless

...how do you flush documents down a toilet?🤔

*Ancestral genetic memory activated*

*Begins thinking of new enhanced interrogation techniques for future reference*

 

[The One Char]

And I'm fucking tired of the GOP 'assured Red Wave' cope, and for anyone who doesn't go along with it to be labelled a 'black pill'.

You know damn well I tried to keep going with what amount to a false hope Trump could remain in office a lot longer than most here.

I lost a lot of friends and a lot of respect of people I care about in order to come out for Trump years ago, and since I did my life and the society we have to live in has only gotten worse in pretty much every measurable way.

I swallowed a bottle of fucking red pills to do what I did, the return on it has been abysmal, and when I'm tired of going along with the cope GOP diehards like you and others just tell me to shut up.

This is why I will not register as a member of the GOP, when this is what happens why you don't go along with the cope.
Whether this is a deep state misstep, or not, remains to be seen.

And frankly, as I've said, I fully expect they will JFK Trump before they let him back into office.
And you forgot to mention I'm not the only one there who actually is willing to admit this sort of thing, instead of going along with the cope.

Dude you need to go outside and touch grass. Hanging around PlaneFag has done your sanity no favors.

 

[Sobek]

My advice to blackpill n****s like Bacle is to make the most of their pessimism. if you think there won't be a revolution then work to make yourself at least able to hold your own and die in glorious matyrdom. One last troll against the Antichrist. Refuse to submit yourself and make WACO look good.

 

[Bacle]

Dude you need to go outside and touch grass. Hanging around PlaneFag has done your sanity no favors.

I go outside and touch grass every fucking day when I water the many plants I am taking care of/growing.

Of course since you are in PF's Discord you'd also already know about the gardening I'm doing, given the conversations I've had with PF's sis in main channels (you remember the whole 'we should have a gardening channel bit'), and you just wanted to use that lame-ass phrase to seem 'hip'.

And frankly PF is a hell of a lot saner than most people I know, even here.

My advice to blackpill niggas like Bacle is to make the most of their pessimism. if you think there won't be a revolution then work to make yourself at least able to hold your own and die in glorious matyrdom. One last troll against the Antichrist. Refuse to submit yourself and make WACO look good.

This is not a situation where violence will solve anything.

I have no interest in being a martyr for a fight that cannot be won, the way you wish to win it, and I sure as shit have no intention of taking anyone with me if I go early.

Unlike some I am not so foolish to believe violent resistance will do anything but give the oppressive powers in DC precisely what they want to enable even more/easier destruction of our liberties/rights/enable their excesses.

Haven't we had an entire thread about what a God damn nightmare an armed insurgency would be? Even bloody lefties recognise it would be a long and nasty affair. There are at least tens of thousands of trained marksmen who can disappear off into the woodlands of America and not be easily found, and they'd be the tip of the iceberg in such a situation. Guerrilla warfare is viciously effective and there's a bunch of yanks kitted out to do just that.

Yes, I'm aware of the the idea/cope floating around that refuses to admit that the Dems have already made plain they will absolutely use the full might of the US military against any 'rebellion/revolution' that happens.

Like, the Dems aren't wrong that AR-15s and a desire to reinact 1776/Red Dawn aren't going to match air power, orbital assets, or nukes.

And DC isn't bloody stupid enough to use nuclear weapons on homeland soil. They'd get removed for that very quickly.

Guess you forgot Rep Swalwell exists, or Biden's bit about 'unless you have F-15s and nukes with you're AR-15s, you cannot win' quip from right after the Inauguration.

Those are not outlier views among the Dems; they do honestly expect to be able to use air support against/nuke any actual 'rebellion/revolution' if it becomes at all a danger to them.

That sort of attitude would have ensured 1776 never happened in the first place. Your forefathers faced a far more formidable enemy and worse odds, and still prevailed. Your constant insistence on despair is frankly embarrassing and a tad annoying. And this is from the perspective of an Englishman who's country is in a much worse state than yours. However, as I have a sense of loyalty, I understand that I am not permitted to give up on my homeland and am indeed compelled to spite the cowards that do so.

Wrong.

Our Founders, including a ancestor of mine, were fighting a very different sort of war than modern wars, even civil wars, have become.

Airpower, nigh-instant global comms, orbital assets, and nuclear weapons were not present in 1776, and no amount of courage or bravery can offset those threats or deal with them in any meaningful way.

As well in 1776, we had help from the French, and this time the only powers who might back a 'rebellion/revolution' in the US are...Russia, China, and maybe some of their allies. I shouldn't have to explain why that is a very different situation from 1776.

 

[Agent23]

My advice to blackpill niggas like Bacle is to make the most of their pessimism. if you think there won't be a revolution then work to make yourself at least able to hold your own and die in glorious matyrdom. One last troll against the Antichrist. Refuse to submit yourself and make WACO look good.

I think he is obsessive-compulsive/bipolar/whatever that shit where one massively moodswings was, he is also a PC zealot and a massive conformist.
Sadly the tradition of curing such problems at an early age with a dual purpose strap of processed leather has been lost in the U.S.A. 😂

 

[Bacle]

 

[Ixian]

I go outside and touch grass every fucking day when I water the many plants I am taking care of/growing.

Of course since you are in PF's Discord you'd also already know about the gardening I'm doing, given the conversations I've had with PF's sis in main channels (you remember the whole 'we should have a gardening channel bit'), and you just wanted to use that lame-ass phrase to seem 'hip'.

And frankly PF is a hell of a lot saner than most people I know, even here.
This is not a situation where violence will solve anything.

I have no interest in being a martyr for a fight that cannot be won, the way you wish to win it, and I sure as shit have no intention of taking anyone with me if I go early.

Unlike some I am not so foolish to believe violent resistance will do anything but give the oppressive powers in DC precisely what they want to enable even more/easier destruction of our liberties/rights/enable their excesses.
Yes, I'm aware of the the idea/cope floating around that refuses to admit that the Dems have already made plain they will absolutely use the full might of the US military against any 'rebellion/revolution' that happens.

Like, the Dems aren't wrong that AR-15s and a desire to reinact 1776/Red Dawn aren't going to match air power, orbital assets, or nukes.



Guess you forgot Rep Swalwell exists, or Biden's bit about 'unless you have F-15s and nukes with you're AR-15s, you cannot win' quip from right after the Inauguration.

Those are not outlier views among the Dems; they do honestly expect to be able to use air support against/nuke any actual 'rebellion/revolution' if it becomes at all a danger to them.
Wrong.

Our Founders, including a ancestor of mine, were fighting a very different sort of war than modern wars, even civil wars, have become.

Airpower, nigh-instant global comms, orbital assets, and nuclear weapons were not present in 1776, and no amount of courage or bravery can offset those threats or deal with them in any meaningful way.

As well in 1776, we had help from the French, and this time the only powers who might back a 'rebellion/revolution' in the US are...Russia, China, and maybe some of their allies. I shouldn't have to explain why that is a very different situation from 1776.

While I'd prefer a peaceful exchange of power via the ballot box, I have to point out your underestimation of Conservatives within the US military. You seem to think that in this worse case scenario that none of the standing US Military would side with the "rebels", whereas I'm pretty sure a significant chunk would.

At minimum we would definitely see a lot of National Guard troops from multiple states going against a tyrannical federal government.

 

[Agent23]

While I'd prefer a peaceful exchange of power via the ballot box, I have to point out your underestimation of Conservatives within the US military. You seem to think that in this worse case scenario that none of the standing US Military would side with the "rebels", whereas I'm pretty sure a significant chunk would.

Much of the upper brass and the political generals like Milley probably won't.
You also have outright bought and paid for MIC shills like Lloyd Austin who won't, either.
But most of them probably are incompetent, so that would be a benefit to the rebels, who will be able to purge them and promote actually capable people.

 

[Cherico]

While I'd prefer a peaceful exchange of power via the ballot box, I have to point out your underestimation of Conservatives within the US military. You seem to think that in this worse case scenario that none of the standing US Military would side with the "rebels", whereas I'm pretty sure a significant chunk would.

At minimum we would definitely see a lot of National Guard troops from multiple states going against a tyrannical federal government.

One thing you have to remember is that the democrats treat their security services like absolute dog shit.

Which will be a factor.

 

[Ixian]

One thing you have to remember is that the democrats treat their security services like absolute dog shit.

Which will be a factor.

Frankly in this hypothetical, I'd be more worried about blue helmets from overseas than anything the Biden administration could throw together.

 

[Cherico]

Frankly in this hypothetical, I'd be more worried about blue helmets from overseas than anything the Biden administration could throw together.

Don't the blue helmets tend to operate very poorly in actual combat conditions.

Warcrimes against helpless civilians yes any one who can fight back not so much.

 

[Ixian]

Don't the blue helmets tend to operate very poorly in actual combat conditions.

Warcrimes against helpless civilians yes any one who can fight back not so much.

They would serve the purpose of distraction, and likely hold down critical infrastructure, I also wouldn't put it pass them to commit a few war crimes while hanging out on American territory.

 

[Bacle]

While I'd prefer a peaceful exchange of power via the ballot box, I have to point out your underestimation of Conservatives within the US military. You seem to think that in this worse case scenario that none of the standing US Military would side with the "rebels", whereas I'm pretty sure a significant chunk would.

At minimum we would definitely see a lot of National Guard troops from multiple states going against a tyrannical federal government.

Why in the world would I think the US military, which is going through full on woke purges despite already being rather undermanned, would actually do anything to resist the powers in DC, so long as their paychecks are coming in and they are still expecting to fight Russia or China or both?

Particularly when the military already showed it's colors during the later stages of the Trump Admin; the Pentagon and people that matter are all firmly in the Dem camp, and they are already paranoid about people in the military being 'right wing' enough to justify those 'extremism' standdowns.

Frankly in this hypothetical, I'd be more worried about blue helmets from overseas than anything the Biden administration could throw together.

See, now, I really doubt they'd bring in foreign troops to do it, simply because the only place close enough, with enough manpower to even be of some use to DC and willing to take orders from DC, is Canada.

 

[Agent23]

My eyes, they see no F-15s(or I assume something like the F-105 would be a good match for the Vietcong) or nukes.

Also, the second a U.S. civil war starts I am sure that ample chances for capability upgrades courtesy of foreign supplies will arise.

I mean, the DonBass alone is probably going to be the biggest owner of Javelins and NLAWs soon, and I am sure they will be happy to resell it. 😂

Moreover, using nukes against a population as dispersed as the "red states" will be massively counter-productive.

Against a few huge cities like the ones that house most of the democrat voting base - maybe.

 

[Floridaman]

Don't the blue helmets tend to operate very poorly in actual combat conditions.

Warcrimes against helpless civilians yes any one who can fight back not so much.

That depends, does raping children count as a combat situation, if so the blue berries are quite proficient. Other than that, they tend to run away.

 

[Agent23]

On a very much related note, you Murikanski need to read up on ACTUAL CIVIL WARS not that secession attempt the South pulled.
Check out the Russian and Spanish civil wars, in particular.
This is IMHO how a U.S. 2nd civil war would play out.