Fallout Fallout General Thread - War, War Never Changes. Nor do game engines.

[HistoryMinor]

I still think the Fallout Orleans writeup on FFN would make a great game:

Fallout: Orleans Chapter 1: Intro, a fallout fanfic | FanFiction

www.fanfiction.net

(Esp. as it gives us what would be the best Fallout faction if it was ever made official).

That, Miami-Havana, Denver Hollow Earth and Deep South Good Enclave vs Get Out Ghoul KKK really are the best options.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Say, anybody think we’ll get more Fallout games in the future? Or will Bethesda screw em up?

 

[HistoryMinor]

Say, anybody think we’ll get more Fallout games in the future? Or will Bethesda screw em up?

We already did, 76 just sucked. After the new space ip and Elder Scrolls game, we might get another fallout.

 

[Navarro]

So, what are your opinions on the dilemma in Honest Hearts? Having recently replayed the DLC, I pretty much always side with Graham. Barring the author fiat that kills the White Legs off if you pick Daniel, there's no reason why they won't hound the Sorrows and similar tribes forever.

And eventually they'll be no place where they can run if the White Legs aren't stopped.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

So, what are your opinions on the dilemma in Honest Hearts? Having recently replayed the DLC, I pretty much always side with Graham. Barring the author fiat that kills the White Legs off if you pick Daniel, there's no reason why they won't hound the Sorrows and similar tribes forever.

And eventually they'll be no place where they can run if the White Legs aren't stopped.

There was a dilemma? I thought you only had to pick if Graham gives into his thirst for revenge or continues to follow the teachings of his religion?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Say, anybody here think that The Institute were more or less sorta acting as a parasite to the Commonwealth? A highly pseudo intellectual sort of parasite that’s more interested in doing mad science than actually using it to rebuild society as something better

And could also do way less horrible shit to the wastelanders above to get results, like they could just have some synth infiltrators go and trade for the experimental seeds being used

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I strongly prefer John Denver.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Say, anybody here think that The Institute were more or less sorta acting as a parasite to the Commonwealth? A highly pseudo intellectual sort of parasite that’s more interested in doing mad science than actually using it to rebuild society as something better

And could also do way less horrible shit to the wastelanders above to get results, like they could just have some synth infiltrators go and trade for the experimental seeds being used

They are. Problem is their culture promotes an arrogance and hatred towards the surface which is considered to be inhabitated by raiders and subhumans. Since they are not viewed as humans by the Institute, it's fine to do whatever you want with them to advance science. Any attempt to better the surface is sabotaged.

Does this in any way sound like they are trying to rebuild society? No, they subconsciously know, if civilization returns to the surface they can't continue their experiements anymore.

 

[Navarro]

It's not even subconscious - it's a fact that they sabotaged an attempt to give Greater Boston a functioning government.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

It's not even subconscious - it's a fact that they sabotaged an attempt to give Greater Boston a functioning government.

Wasn’t that supposedly a result of all those settlement leaders shooting each other and the Synth getting the blame?

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Wasn’t that supposedly a result of all those settlement leaders shooting each other and the Synth getting the blame?

That is what they claim. I really doubt it though.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

That is what they claim. I really doubt it though.

I guess the Institute heads at the time were willing to lie to even their people on something like that

Probably also fits into their narratives regarding Wastelanders, they may barely have governments of their own, but I’m pretty sure most guys in settlements are reasonable enough NOT to unnecessarily go around shooting

Director's recordings

Director's recording #52 / #108 are two holotapes in Fallout 4. Recording #52: The Institute, on a side table in the board room on the top level (east side). Recording #108: The Institute, in the Director's Quarters. On the upper level opposite the globe and radio, inside an opened white box...

fallout.fandom.com

How believable is this one?

 

[Navarro]

I mean, they also deliberately release super mutants "into the wild" to add to the unrest as well.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

I mean, they also deliberately release super mutants "into the wild" to add to the unrest as well.

They do? I thought it was just them experimenting for lulz, and then being lazy fucks and releasing them into the wild...

And that brings them from negligence to malice.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

They do? I thought it was just them experimenting for lulz, and then being lazy fucks and releasing them into the wild...

And that brings them from negligence to malice.

They even experimented on one of their own, Swann the Supermutant Behemoth was once on of theirs.

And frankly, I say that turning someone into a supermutant, especially one with the reduced intelligence and increase in violent impulses is nothing short of Mind Rape

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

They even experimented on one of their own, Swann the Supermutant Behemoth was once on of theirs.

And frankly, I say that turning someone into a supermutant, especially one with the reduced intelligence and increase in violent impulses is nothing short of Mind Rape

Poor Swann, just wanted some cigarettes and was turned into a monster who could only remember his name, but not the meaning.

Also checking out on FO4, but the caravan merchants are dicks, not only are many of them informants, but them stiffing the Libertalian Minutemen and lack of decency towards them is what sent them down the slippery slope of being raiders.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Poor Swann, just wanted some cigarettes and was turned into a monster who could only remember his name, but not the meaning.

Even if the Commonwealth Provisional Government turning bad wasn't their fault, their actions afterwards kept affirming the Commonwealth's beliefs about them and they didn't up-front do immediately obvious helpful things, they just turned the Commonwealth into a place for experiments and its people as their lab rats

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Even if the Commonwealth Provisional Government turning bad wasn't their fault, their actions afterwards kept affirming the Commonwealth's beliefs about them and they didn't up-front do immediately obvious helpful things, they just turned the Commonwealth into a place for experiments and its people as their lab rats

I agree, and it is really sad, because they could have easily worked with the Commonwealth rather than destroy it and mutually benefitted. If I am not mistaken that settlement on University Point was doing research, and there is actual research being done around in the Commonwealth... So imagine if the Institute instead took a leading role?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

So imagine if the Institute instead took a leading role?

They don't like being with Wastelanders, maybe the occasional intelligent mind and someone who'll just take the money, but they don't like em

 

[Battlegrinder]

There was a dilemma? I thought you only had to pick if Graham gives into his thirst for revenge or continues to follow the teachings of his religion?

That's one of the choices you make in Graham's route, but there's also an entirely different choice to just evacuate Zion and seal the path behind you. I've never been clear on what the upside of that one is supposed to be.



As for the institute, oxhorn covers it with the usual level of detail, including the CPG: