Fallout Fallout General Thread - War, War Never Changes. Nor do game engines.

[commanderkai]

For any and all discussion of the Fallout series, currently developed by Bethesda Softworks.

Spoiler: The best thing of Fallout 76

Personally, I'm about to start a new runthrough of Fallout 4, with....about 90+ mods, including the fantastic Sim Settlements, and a number of additional quest mods I haven't tried yet. I am praying to the Mod gods for success in it functioning. One thing that has helped stability from a few test runs is basically disabling grass.

 

[HistoryMinor]

Can't wait for Fallout Fiesta. Everyone with a brain knows that the future of the franchise should be in Miami and Havana.

 

[commanderkai]

Can't wait for Fallout Fiesta. Everyone with a brain knows that the future of the franchise should be in Miami and Havana.

Is that the title for it? It looks amazing, although I haven't checked into it for a while.

I always thought Fallout 4 really dropped the ball when they didn't go to Montreal/Quebec City and resolve tensions between the Canadians, and the US military remnant there.

 

[HistoryMinor]

Is that the title for it? It looks amazing, although I haven't checked into it for a while.

I always thought Fallout 4 really dropped the ball when they didn't go to Montreal/Quebec City and resolve tensions between the Canadians, and the US military remnant there.

It's just a common fan pitch, the next one will likely be somewhere boring like Denver so they can exploit Skyrim cut content and make big vaults en par with Dwarven cities.

Did Canada have culture back in the 1950s? It would be hard to do something like that? Cuba on the other hand has jazz and commies, plus an ocean that can be designed cheaply and used for open world travel/mutant fishing.

 

[commanderkai]

It's just a common fan pitch, the next one will likely be somewhere boring like Denver so they can exploit Skyrim cut content and make big vaults en par with Dwarven cities.

Did Canada have culture back in the 1950s? It would be hard to do something like that? Cuba on the other hand has jazz and commies, plus an ocean that can be designed cheaply and used for open world travel/mutant fishing.

Actually there's a huge mod being made that is set in Miami called... Well... Fallout:Miami. It looks pretty good, considering, you know, it being a mod.

Fallout Miami

www.falloutmiami.com

 

[Vargas Fan]

New Orleans could potentially be an interesting setting for a Fallout game. Alternatively we could see what there is outside the US, but I can't see that happening to be honest.

 

[FriedCFour]

Actually there's a huge mod being made that is set in Miami called... Well... Fallout:Miami. It looks pretty good, considering, you know, it being a mod.

My first thought was a hotline miami/fallout crossover game. Not sure how that would work though.

 

[Tyzuris]

One of the best things in New Vegas is how easy it is to get a decent inventory with Guns. Just steall all the energy weapons from Van Graffs by grabbing them and taking them to the bathroom, crouch into sneaking position and take the energy weapon. Bring a buddy and either EDE or Rex with you as well and stock your inventory to max weight and your buddies' inventories as well.

Then get out of Van Graffs place and go sell all the Energy Weapons to Gun Runners and buy proper Guns with your money. Because Guns rule in New Vegas due to how much easier they're to maintain and keep stocked with ammunition. And they make for gorier VATS animations.

And in Fallout 3 then it's the opposite. Energy Weapons are easy to maintain due to how much of them you find around, and how you find ammunition and how merchants stock energy weapons ammunition more commonly than in NV. Also damage wise Energy Weapons usually beat Guns in 3, but in NV they're quite equal. And some high power Energy Weapons consume in NV more than one piece of ammunition as you fire them. No problem like this with proper Guns in NV. And that's why when you find ammo more commonly for guns, and smaller consumption of ammo for Guns, you're quite likely to have a better ammunition stock in Guns in NV. In 3 all Energy Weapons consumed one ammo per shot, so this makes Guns vs Energy Weapons much more equal in 3 than in NV.

 

[Navarro]

Yeah, FNV nerfed energy weapons tremendously.

 

[Tyzuris]

Yeah, FNV nerfed energy weapons tremendously.

Yeah. Considering in lore they're supposed to be the shit, in-game they're just shit.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Yeah. Considering in lore they're supposed to be the shit, in-game they're just shit.

If they gave small arms (or I guess, it guns or something now?) guass weapons as they are supposed to have, and then actually balanced energy weapons while keeping them powerful.

 

[Battlegrinder]

Can't wait for Fallout Fiesta. Everyone with a brain knows that the future of the franchise should be in Miami and Havana.

I suspect the next game will be somewhere in the midwest or the pacific northwest. Somewhere far enough away from DC and Cali that bethesda can avoid the ever expanding civilized parts of the NCR and DC brotherhood, but not so far away they can't show up. Florida is a little too close to DC as it's right on the edge of airship range, and Havana is too far.

Now, it'd be cool if they set a game in the post-post apocalyptic parts of the world, but they'll never let us do that since said regions are basically earily-mid 20th century USA (with robots and other high tech stuff scattered around), and Caliban before the Lion showed up, respectively.

Yeah. Considering in lore they're supposed to be the shit, in-game they're just shit.

Eh, not really. Get laser commander, a laser rifle with all the mods, some optimized power cells, and you've got a perfectly usable weapon. Maybe not on par with the high end lever rifles, but those are overkill for like 90% of the possible enemies, and much harder to repair (even with Jury Rigging). Now, it's not like the metal blaster in 3 where you could buff your crit rate and just oneshot basically everthing, but it's hardly shit.


Or you just play fallout the proper way (IE: with no less than than three or four dozen mods) and rebalance everything.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

In-Regards to Fallout New Vegas, I was just wondering, how exactly would Caesar even properly make use of New Vegas?

Guy illegalises chems and makes it so that all women are breeding slaves. That would lead to upheaval

I’m pretty sure once he took over New Vegas, the female population would be screwed over and much technology that kinda helps for its infrastructure and trade would also be banned or destroyed

Then again, I don’t think the Traders in Legion Territory or going through it are Legion themselves

 

[HistoryMinor]

In-Regards to Fallout New Vegas, I was just wondering, how exactly would Caesar even properly make use of New Vegas?

Guy illegalises chems and makes it so that all women are breeding slaves. That would lead to upheaval

I’m pretty sure once he took over New Vegas, the female population would be screwed over and much technology that kinda helps for its infrastructure and trade would also be banned or destroyed

Then again, I don’t think the Traders in Legion Territory or going through it are Legion themselves

He'd crucify everyone and turn one or two places into Bloodsport coliseums.

 

[Battlegrinder]

He'd crucify everyone and turn one or two places into Bloodsport coliseums.

But he could that anywhere, and arguably would better off doing it most anywhere else.
Vegas doesn't really have anything that's readily convertible to a coliseum (he'd be better off hunting for an intact football stadium or something), or a Senate, or anything else that he'd want to try and make it into a New Rome or something. It's just a town full of casinos and stuff he has no use for, but he seems to think that it's in fact so much more than that and that vegas specifically has something to offer the legion.

 

[Navarro]

The most value Vegas could have to Caesar is as a forward base for conquering the NCR, IMO.

 

[HistoryMinor]

But he could that anywhere, and arguably would better off doing it most anywhere else.
Vegas doesn't really have anything that's readily convertible to a coliseum (he'd be better off hunting for an intact football stadium or something), or a Senate, or anything else that he'd want to try and make it into a New Rome or something. It's just a town full of casinos and stuff he has no use for, but he seems to think that it's in fact so much more than that and that vegas specifically has something to offer the legion.

Never discount the value of conquering a corrupt holdover of the corrupt democratic world the NCR is trying to emulate. Remember that Caesar is a Hegelian, the guy is probably really into symbolic gestures. That and the amount of slaves he could collect.

 

[Navarro]

Yes, in fact I would say Caesar is interested in New Vegas more as a forward base from which to direct his armies and a symbolic rebuke to the Old World as a whole. Turning it into an imperial capital likely isn't planned until after the NCR is conquered, at which point it can stand in the midpoint between his western and eastern territories.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Its territory maybe "safe" from raiders, but I doubt there's really much economic activity in those areas, not many allowable goods either or really much industry beyond what's handcrafted and even that stuff maybe less efficient than the NCR's making of goods

 

[HistoryMinor]

Its territory maybe "safe" from raiders, but I doubt there's really much economic activity in those areas, not many allowable goods either or really much industry beyond what's handcrafted and even that stuff maybe less efficient than the NCR's making of goods

Again, it's population was to be enslaved, leading to a huge boost in Caesar's supply lines, labor pool and meat shields.