Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

[strunkenwhite]

That would... quite literally require magic. Cause it don't work like that.

I think he's imagining that you vote on a touchscreen, then the voting machine prints out your ballot, but some of the ballots do not match the voter's instructions. This scheme would work as long as none of the affected voters checked their ballots. Or if you don't let them see the ballots, I suppose.

 

[JagerIV]

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I think he's imagining that you vote on a touchscreen, then the voting machine prints out your ballot, but some of the ballots do not match the voter's instructions. This scheme would work as long as none of the affected voters checked their ballots. Or if you don't let them see the ballots, I suppose.

Yeah, its been a while, but I vaguely recall that's how my voting worked: you vote on a touch screen, then review everything, and then your ballot gets printed out. I then bring the paper ballot over to be put in the paper box. I believe I checked my paper ballot, but that was mostly since people were already quite worried about cheating. I'd assume a good number make sure the touch screen is correct, if that, and then don't review the paper ballot. I recall some places had a system were you don't actually even look at the paper ballot.

If you assumed 90% don't check, and you only did it for the 50% voting wrong anyways, and did 10% of those, you probably could get a 9% swing through that, and then you just admit the "error" for the 1% of ballots where its discovered and change it. If you really want to get more through, make the appeal process at the point where the paper ballot is printed obnoxious, or make the only recourse the voiding of the vote: so you don't generate a vote for your guy, but do get rid of a vote for the other guy.

Still, small and complicated compared to looking at who hasn't voted by the end of the day and stuffing fraudulent ballots then.

 

[Vyor]

Ya that... isn't how it's done over 99% of the country.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Ya that... isn't how it's done over 99% of the country.

That's how I voted in the last two elections here in West Texas.

 

[Captain X]

Where I am, you filled in a paper ballot with a pen, and it was scanned into a machine.

 

[Megadeath]

Yeah, its been a while, but I vaguely recall that's how my voting worked: you vote on a touch screen, then review everything, and then your ballot gets printed out. I then bring the paper ballot over to be put in the paper box. I believe I checked my paper ballot, but that was mostly since people were already quite worried about cheating. I'd assume a good number make sure the touch screen is correct, if that, and then don't review the paper ballot. I recall some places had a system were you don't actually even look at the paper ballot.

If you assumed 90% don't check, and you only did it for the 50% voting wrong anyways, and did 10% of those, you probably could get a 9% swing through that, and then you just admit the "error" for the 1% of ballots where its discovered and change it. If you really want to get more through, make the appeal process at the point where the paper ballot is printed obnoxious, or make the only recourse the voiding of the vote: so you don't generate a vote for your guy, but do get rid of a vote for the other guy.

Still, small and complicated compared to looking at who hasn't voted by the end of the day and stuffing fraudulent ballots then.

That's how I voted in the last two elections here in West Texas.

Well then I imagine you must have been quite confused by all the supposedly "too perfectly" filled boxes on ballots?

 

[JagerIV]

Ya that... isn't how it's done over 99% of the country.

Eh, 19/50 states do it by Direct Recording Electronic systems (DRE), at least partially.

Voting methods and equipment by state

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

Louisiana only does it via DRE without any paper trail at all! 8 States overall have at least some voting done by DRE's with no paper trail.

So, Louisiana by itself would be 1% of the overall votes of the 2020 done with no paper trail. The south in general has a lot of systems that generate nothing auditable.

 

[Vyor]

That's fucking insane.

 

[JagerIV]

That's fucking insane.

American elections operate primarily on the "hey, trust us" principle.

 

[Cherico]

American elections operate primarily on the "hey, trust us" principle.

that quite clearly needs to go away and be replaced with something actually trust worthy.

 

[Bacle]

that quite clearly needs to go away and be replaced with something actually trust worthy.

And yet we all know it won't be.

 

[Cherico]

And yet we all know it won't be.

Guys don't dogpile Bacle on this.

He has reached stage 4 of the process which is depression.

This is painful but its good because he's moved past denile, anger, and the barganing stages of grief. The next stage is acceptance where you know things are fucked but you change what is in your power to change and start the process of dealing with a decades long slog.

This is a legit shitty process but we have all gone through it give him time.

 

[Bacle]

Guys don't dogpile Bacle on this.

He has reached stage 4 of the process which is depression.

This is painful but its good because he's moved past denile, anger, and the barganing stages of grief. The next stage is acceptance where you know things are fucked but you change what is in your power to change and start the process of dealing with a decades long slog.

This is a legit shitty process but we have all gone through it give him time.

This isn't grief or grief processing, don't belittle it as such.

I just realized that US politics is FUBAR after the Wu Flu and Jan 6th.

Thus I did not cling to foolish ideas about 'limits' on the Dems, 'accountability' being something that happens to Dems, or believing that the Dems will self-destruct.

 

[Bigking321]

that quite clearly needs to go away and be replaced with something actually trust worthy.

And yet we all know it won't be.

Guys don't dogpile Bacle on this.

I mean... he's not wrong. The entire democrat strategy has been to make sure our elections are as unsecured as possible and stop any attempt to secure or audit them. And then gaslight everyone with the media that all the fraud that's found in no way means anything and if you want to prevent it you're a bigot.

Hell. The Arizona and Georgia stuff proves establishment Republicans are in on it as well.

You are right that the voting system is trash. We need voter ID and clear paper trails and ways to ensure no fraud and arrests of fraudsters.

But the people in charge will fight that with everything they have. Otherwise they wouldn't get elected.

 

[Rocinante]

Guys don't dogpile Bacle on this.

He has reached stage 4 of the process which is depression.

This is painful but its good because he's moved past denile, anger, and the barganing stages of grief. The next stage is acceptance where you know things are fucked but you change what is in your power to change and start the process of dealing with a decades long slog.

This is a legit shitty process but we have all gone through it give him time.

If we want to use these phases, I'm pretty sure, if anything, you're either in the denial or far more likely, the bargaining phase, and bacle has reached acceptance like two years ago.

 

[JagerIV]

Guys don't dogpile Bacle on this.

He has reached stage 4 of the process which is depression.

This is painful but its good because he's moved past denile, anger, and the barganing stages of grief. The next stage is acceptance where you know things are fucked but you change what is in your power to change and start the process of dealing with a decades long slog.

This is a legit shitty process but we have all gone through it give him time.

Your the one being rediculous here though.

 

[Zachowon]

Believe it or not.
If you win elections at the local level those voting rules can change.

 

[Bacle]

 

[Cherico]

Zuck has been involved with a lot of shit like this for years now.

 

[Vyor]

Stress effects on the body

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Cease your idiocy and get some fucking help.