Quest Deep Periphery Quest (Battletech Sandbox Empire Builder)

Rukatin

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Ohh, if GX-N13's climate is near identical to Griffon's, could we also bring Grifftigers over there? Mininal terraforming to create the jungles of our home for their native habit tat, though that may cause problems if we import the giant herbivore dinosaurs that they eat as well. Don't they tend to stampede?
 

Yacovo

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Gateway sounds like a great Port System. Only issue is the lack of things means most things will have to be shipped. At least the lack of things will make traffic easy to manage.
 

ShadowArxxy

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I feel like we've always gone for the expensive solutions because we can afford them, and there's not that much reason to stop doing so.
 

Levant

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Am I the only one that thinks Perkins was way out of line with her glossing over the fact that none of his subordinates brought up the issues with the dimensions of the flight suits during any of the three development conferences? Maybe for the first one it wasn't considered, it just became a problem that wasn't foreseen, but the fact that it wasn't brought up in the following two just seems like gross negligence, I don't particularly care that the negligent ones died for their failure. Just the whole comment about not being a paper pusher, I mean, I'm sorry that his inability to do paper work cost the lives of so many airmen, but maybe if you are so averse to paperwork you shouldn't be the head of the branch.
 

Thors_Alumni

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I feel like we've always gone for the expensive solutions because we can afford them, and there's not that much reason to stop doing so.
It also helps that we have the money to do it. over 80Trillion this turn to be exact.
 

mmgaballah

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Am I the only one that thinks Perkins was way out of line with her glossing over the fact that none of his subordinates brought up the issues with the dimensions of the flight suits during any of the three development conferences? Maybe for the first one it wasn't considered, it just became a problem that wasn't foreseen, but the fact that it wasn't brought up in the following two just seems like gross negligence, I don't particularly care that the negligent ones died for their failure. Just the whole comment about not being a paper pusher, I mean, I'm sorry that his inability to do paper work cost the lives of so many airmen, but maybe if you are so averse to paperwork you shouldn't be the head of the branch.
I think its case of promoted to failure , as in all the competent people who where qualified for the job and are good at the relevant paper pushing got killed so people (perfectly competent ones mind you) who were not yet ready for these positions ended up taking their place but the rushed nature of it all meant they weren't necessarily completely qualified yet to hold these positions to the same level of skill as their predecessors
 

Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Bigger question is why the hell did staff officers end back up in the cockpit again or in general. And why there was all of 1 representative by the aerospace force at each conference and that they weren't ya know issuing their own specs in general given how different they'd have their requirements in comparison from everyone else's. In my pov it's not a singular point of failure its dozens by at least hundreds of people probably thousands
 
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Turn 131 - Amazing

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Turn 131 - Amazing


The year starts out with some excellent news. Thanks to superb economic growth, the New Libertalia system achieves full Core status as of January 1st, triggering enormous system-wide celebrations. Considering the extreme quality of the alcoholic beverages distilled and brewed in the system, you suspect that there will be large runs on hangover cures over the coming months, although you do hoist a few glasses of some of their famous award-winning brandies in solidarity.

The system government of New Libertalia also manages something rather unique, at least so far. Rather than resting on their laurels or shifting their focus to building up infrastructure and industry, the New Libertalians instead have begun a massive advertising campaign centered around their brewing industry, announcing the opening of a massive educational complex dedicated explicitly to perfecting the brewing arts. Initial reports are quite positive over the system ‘leaning in’ to what they are already excellent at, rather than trying to be another cookie cutter core world.

Initial indications from the Interior Ministry predict robust economic growth across the entire Empire this year, breaking the somewhat stagnant string of lackluster growth from the last couple years. Analysts are especially excited about the possibilities for foreign trade, with quite a few speculators organizing corporations for the purpose of exploiting that possibility. Time will tell how successful this will be.

Unfortunately, the euphoric high only lasts a few scant weeks, as in early February the Black Steel revealed what they were actually up to in the Arvum system.

The prominent jamming antenna on those ships had been a bit of a maskirovka. While they did, in fact, jam HPG signals, that was not the actual purpose of those damned ships. The fixed orbital defenses have scant seconds of warning before large slugs coated in radar absorbent materials and deep black graphene sheathes are detected hurtling towards orbital assets at extreme velocities. All of the Towers in Arvum orbit are destroyed by the strike, along with enormous chunks of orbital infrastructure. Worse, the planet itself is subjected to heavy bombardment from the same slugs causing shocking amounts of damage to the biosphere and cities on the planet. Concurrent with this, the Black Steel forces which had been swanning about in the outer system execute short-range KF jumps to the limit and come blazing across, obviously intending to take advantage of the situation.

Admiral de Palo orders Home Fleet to focus on humanitarian efforts around Arvum itself, as well as acting as a final reserve, while she takes Grand Fleet and Expeditionary Fleet into battle against the massive Black Steel armada. Strike Fleet, meanwhile, is directed to attack the ‘jamming vessels’ immediately.

Her rapid response is fortuitous in the extreme, as mere minutes later additional slugs are spotted transiting the areas where the fleets had been deployed. Thanks to the fleets being at maximum fleet thrust and, in the words of one observer, ‘de-assing the area with great haste’, no ships were lost to that attempted bombardment.

You spend several extremely anxious days at the Palace’s command center, but finally a very welcome HPG message comes in from an utterly exhausted Admiral de Palo. “They came on in the same old way, and we sent them back in the same old way.”

It takes you a moment to recognize the Wellington quote, which you attribute to your own exhaustion.

Over the next several hours more details emerge. The fighting had been close and vicious, and very few of your ships were completely undamaged. Search and rescue operations were ongoing, but the initial loss numbers are sobering.

Of one hundred and forty two capital ships, of all classes, engaged, four were lost with all hands and 3 more were constructive losses, albeit with significant crew survival. None of the survivors were undamaged, with preliminary estimates being that it will take up to three years to make good all the damage.

Of eight hundred and thirty seven cruisers, of all classes ranging from light to heavy, that had been engaged, eighty three had been lost with all hands and a further one hundred and ten were constructive losses, again with significant crew survival thanks to the robust construction of your ships as well as the highly effective naval crew suits that are standard issue.

Destroyers took far heavier losses, mostly due to their relative flimsiness in comparison to the heavier ships. Hits that would be shrugged off by a cruiser or, especially, a battle wagon were often catastrophically fatal for a destroyer. Of one thousand, seven hundred and seventy four destroyers and corvettes engaged, four hundred and ninety seven were lost with all hands and a further seven hundred and eighty will need to be written off as constructive losses. Crew survival rates of the latter category were lower than with the heavier units, but well above previous baselines in prior engagements.

The engaged parasites were utterly hammered, although truth to tell those Wright and Colt-class blisters and dockable ASF platforms were generally lost along with their parent units. Of two thousand five hundred parasites directly engaged, nine hundred and fifty four were lost with all hands and a further one thousand, two hundred and thirty were damaged beyond repair with relatively minor crew losses.

Casualties among ASF units were extremely high, although this is partially due to the loss of the majority of wings assigned to Fortress Command in the system in the opening moments of the engagement as any craft not on patrol at that moment were destroyed in their hangars. A total of fifty two thousand, two hundred and thirty six ASFs were lost in total, although since your forces hold the battlefield a surprisingly high percentage of the pilots are being recovered by SAR shuttles. Overall pilot casualty rates are currently projected to top out at approximately twenty percent, while actual fighter losses amount to approximately sixty six percent of all deployed ASFs, including those lost in their hangars.

Losses among the Black Steel are nearly total, with only a few of the ECM vessels in the outer system escaping the vengeful attention of Strike Fleet. Not a single major Black Steel unit survived the battle. The exchange rate was ruinously in your favor, and in terms of actual combat power lost this is the single greatest victory for the Imperial Navy yet.

Doesn’t make the enormous casualties any easier to bear, but it is something at least.

After all, since Admiral de Palo had quoted Wellington already, perhaps another quote would be appropriate. ‘Nothing but a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won.’
Scheduled vote count started by LordSunhawk on Jun 11, 2023 at 12:40 AM, finished with 11 posts and 7 votes.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Bigger question is why the hell did staff officers end back up in the cockpit again or in general. And why there was all of 1 representative by the aerospace force at each conference and that they weren't ya know issuing their own specs in general given how different they'd have their requirements in comparison from everyone else's. In my pov it's not a singular point of failure its dozens by at least hundreds of people probably thousands
It's not so much, "Staff officers end up back in the cockpit", but rather, "The Air Force doesn't really have staff officers, staff functions like this are handled by active duty pilots who are currently off the flight line due to injuries etc."
 

Doomsought

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It's not so much, "Staff officers end up back in the cockpit", but rather, "The Air Force doesn't really have staff officers, staff functions like this are handled by active duty pilots who are currently off the flight line due to injuries etc."
That means they need a major reorganization. There are many officers that should only be flying a desk, including CAG, landing directors and logistics personnel, even when attatched to other units
 

ShadowArxxy

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That means they need a major reorganization. There are many officers that should only be flying a desk, including CAG, landing directors and logistics personnel, even when attatched to other units

Yeah, the problem is those positions are staffed by the Navy, not the Air Force.

The Air Force these days is de facto the Fleet Air Arm because of the way the Navy has gained primacy with our heavy-hitting Parasite Warships and then true WarShips, but it's never been officially changed. This means the Air Force is in the weird position of being formally organized as an independent branch of service, but de facto has turned over almost all of its "tail" functions to the Navy since they're stationed on Navy decks. That's what's made this sort of thing fall through the cracks.
 

AlphaOmega

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Yeah, the problem is those positions are staffed by the Navy, not the Air Force.

The Air Force these days is de facto the Fleet Air Arm because of the way the Navy has gained primacy with our heavy-hitting Parasite Warships and then true WarShips, but it's never been officially changed. This means the Air Force is in the weird position of being formally organized as an independent branch of service, but de facto has turned over almost all of its "tail" functions to the Navy since they're stationed on Navy decks. That's what's made this sort of thing fall through the cracks.
They should still be functioning as their own arm when on planets or did they get so integrated with the Army there that we effectively went back to the days when there wasn‘t a proper Air Force arm each of the other arms (Army, Navy, Marines etc.) simply had their own air arms?
 

ShadowArxxy

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They should still be functioning as their own arm when on planets or did they get so integrated with the Army there that we effectively went back to the days when there wasn‘t a proper Air Force arm each of the other arms (Army, Navy, Marines etc.) simply had their own air arms?
That's probably one of the official reasons (in-character) they're still an independent service, but they haven't actually done that in forever and a day since we pretty much haven't waged ground wars.
 

LordSunhawk

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The Aerospace Force has primacy for all ASFs and small craft used by the entire military, they handle the design, development, testing, training, and operations for such craft. If it is under 250 tons, it is an Aerospace Force platform.

However, thanks to Fortress Command folding into the Navy, and the fact that nearly all ASF operations are now space based, with only training and garrison commands operating groundside, and the latter being part of Fortress Command's logistics and administrative structure, the Aerospace Force has become 90% teeth, 10% tail. Just about the only 'administrative' functions handled purely by the Aerospace Force is Training Command and the flight test squadrons.

Even when operating in support of the Army during ground operations, their logistical support is still handled by the Navy, since the *Navy* owns the transports that provide all of the logistics, and unlike the Army the Aerospace Force simply extends the existing logistics tail used to support space operations, after all, why duplicate the effort if it is already in place? As such, the Aerospace Force has the lowest operational overhead of the three services.

In the case of the exosuits, what effectively happened was that while the commanders of the three services agreed on them being a joint design, the directives for the design were to develop a common suit for the crews of the various craft, and for the Aerospace Force, the only operational platforms with 'crew' are the shuttles and the Sunderland tanker. Therefore, the Aerospace Force rep ensured that the resulting suit was perfectly suited for shuttle crew and tanker crews, since actual ASFs have 'pilots', not 'crew'.
 

Knowledgeispower

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It's not so much, "Staff officers end up back in the cockpit", but rather, "The Air Force doesn't really have staff officers, staff functions like this are handled by active duty pilots who are currently off the flight line due to injuries etc."
That needs to change and FAST
 

AlphaOmega

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In the case of the exosuits, what effectively happened was that while the commanders of the three services agreed on them being a joint design, the directives for the design were to develop a common suit for the crews of the various craft, and for the Aerospace Force, the only operational platforms with 'crew' are the shuttles and the Sunderland tanker. Therefore, the Aerospace Force rep ensured that the resulting suit was perfectly suited for shuttle crew and tanker crews, since actual ASFs have 'pilots', not 'crew'.
I refuse to believe that bit of ‘miscommunication’ was an accident, I hope Amaunet deals with this appropriately.
 
Turn 131 - Nine Lives

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Turn 131 - Nine Lives


Casualties in the Arvum system are high, primarily due to the nature of the ultra-high velocity projectiles that bombarded the planet. Humanitarian efforts are underway, but the surviving locals are grimly determined to rebuild.

You have already tasked your scientific community to come up with any potential solutions to the Black Steel’s latest tactic.

Thanks to the severe damage to the Repair Yards in the Arvum system the Navy is having to rely on their mobile repair ships to make sufficient repairs to permit badly damaged units to jump to other systems with available repair docks, which is significantly slowing down repairs. The Navy is already exploring whether or not it would be more efficient to lay down a large number of additional Vestal-class repair ships or to build a larger, more capable design.

One area which has the Navy very concerned is that the preliminary analysis of the battle shows just how outclassed the Mikasa-class parasite battleship truly are in the modern combat environment, while also showing just how critical they were to the success of the fleet against the Black Steel.

In short, brutal as it seems, the Mikasas absorbed fire that would otherwise have damaged or destroyed full scale warships, thus serving as a sort of ‘ablative armor’ for them, but suffered enormous losses in doing so. Only the fact that they have significantly fewer crewmembers per ship than even a Battle-class Destroyer kept them from being the single largest source of casualties in the battle, and even so it was a very close run thing for an ‘honor’ that nobody wants.

Admiral Fisher has already informed you that he has tasked his Advanced Projects Group with coming up with ways of automating the Mikasa as much as possible, in hopes of potentially turning them into completely autonomous drones rather than crewed vehicles.

You have also received the loss reports from the allied contingents in the Arvun fighting. The NRI lost over three hundred of their Corvus corvettes, representing almost a quarter of their entire navy. The NRR, meanwhile, lost almost ten thousand ASFs across three hundred wings deployed in the system. Percentage wise, their losses were far more severe than your own.

Several weeks later you receive a report from Amaunet about the situation regarding the exosuits. Ultimately, according to the big cat, what happened was a case of different services using different terms for things and people making assumptions based on their own parochial priorities and viewpoints.

The actual directive that had gone out to the three branches was for the joint development of a common exosuit to be worn by all combat crewmen. This was the basis for the issue.

For the Army, ever since the development of the BattleMech there has been a concerted effort to prevent the rise of a ‘Mechwarrior Mafia’ mindset, a major part of this is that in Army regulations, the Mechwarrior is simply the crew of their Mech and, ever since the development of battle armor, viewed as simply the seventh trooper in an infantry squad. Tanks, apart from the smallest hovercraft used by the Rapid Response units, have multiple crewmen, and even the RRF terms their hovercraft drivers as ‘crew’. So to the Army, ‘combat crew’ was universally understood to mean all personnel assigned to the operation of any sort of combat vehicle, be it a Mech, a tank, or a support vehicle.

For the Navy the definition of ‘combat crew’ was basic and universal, all spacers in the navy were the crew of their respective ships, from the smallest parasite to the largest battleship. So ‘combat crew’ was pretty much everybody.

However, the Aerospace Force is different from everybody else. Aerospace Force pilots very much are not considered mere ‘crew’ of their birds, but rather ‘pilots’. This goes back to the very earliest days of the Aerospace Force, primarily due to the influence of your Great Aunt Thanh, who very much shaped the early culture of the Aerospace Force. Your cousins from that side of the family are still highly active in the Aerospace Force, and there is an internal mystique and culture emphasizing the primacy of the pilot. In the Aerospace Force, there are ‘ground crew’, ‘shuttle crew’ and ‘Sunderland crew’, but the ASFs themselves are piloted by Pilots, not mere ‘crew’. Unlike every other service, each ASF has the name of the pilot emblazoned on it, many have minor bits of personalization such as nose art and, inspired by the example set by Thanh, every pilot resents every second not spent in the cockpit.

So, when the directive came down to develop the exosuits for ‘combat crew’, that directive was faithfully followed. All personnel defined as combat crew have combat exosuits developed to joint requirements that permit them to perform their duties with the benefits of the armored suits. ASF pilots are, by definition, not combat crew, therefore they do not wear those suits. The Imperial Guard and flight demonstration teams make use of the suits purely for aesthetics during parades outside the cockpit due primarily to the fact that in the Imperial Guard there are unit regulations requiring all personnel to wear the Imperial Guard version of the exosuit to promote uniformity, said regulation being interpreted internally as applying to any occasion in which the Guardsman in question was ‘in the public eye’.

Thus the Aerospace Force officers seconded to the development team were acting appropriately, and indeed all ‘ground crew’ and the crews of the large multi-person small craft used by the Aerospace Force do indeed wear the exosuit. General Zara simply didn’t bother to look into the underlying ‘why’ of why the Aerospace Force wasn’t ordering as many of the suits as he felt they needed, nor ‘why’ they weren’t focusing on the latest upgrades by purchasing new suits, rather, Amaunet notes, the Aerospace Force was quite frugally upgrading their existing suits with, for example, the new gloves, rather than buying all new suits.

Amaunet also notes that the objections from ASF pilots about wearing the exosuits are quite valid. ASF cockpits, by their nature, are significantly more cramped than any other combat vehicle. The Aerospace Force already has to reject pilot candidates who are too tall to fit in the cockpits, and enlarging the cockpits to any significant degree would have severely negative effects on performance and thus effectiveness.

As an example, Amaunet notes that for the Sparrowhawk interceptor upgrading the cockpit to have sufficient internal volume for the bulk of the exosuit would cost the ASF two 5cm extended range lasers and the entire enhanced targeting computer. Moreover, the exosuits are already as compact as possible given your technology, due to the requirements of the Army, there are no feasible means of creating a more compact suit while retaining any of the benefits endowed by said suits in the first place, which would utterly defeat the purpose of them in any case.

The big cat privately informs you that General Zara, no matter how energetic and brilliant he undoubtedly is, is far too aggressive and impulsive. She notes that she is attempting to work with him in that regard, but that he has alienated the other two service chiefs with his behavior and, in her words, is starting to look like he might taste good with a lovely Chianti. He’s effective, and has brought to light plenty of things which needed to be addressed, but….

[]ActionResult
[]Fire General Zara
  • Will need to select a new Army Chief of Staff
  • Unknown effects
[]Don’t Fire General Zara
  • Will retain General Zara
  • Unknown effects

Parliament is in session, which always is a cause for some heartburn.

You receive a pair of proposals that you will need to consider and render a decision on.

First of all, is the Imperial Communications Act of 3061. The Eldest is actually one of the sponsors of the Act in the Imperial Senate, which causes you to raise an eyebrow since he rarely sponsors legislation.

In brief, the act concerns upgrading the current Academic HPG Network even further by devoting increased funds to deploying even more HPG units to the purpose of mass real time communication across interstellar distances using high-endurance HPG transmitters. In addition, it would open the network up to non-academic users in an effort to stimulate an ‘information economy’ across the Empire.

[]ActionArgumentResult
[]Sign the Imperial Communications Act of 3061The Academic HPG Network has proven to be a great boon to the Empire in general, permitting researchers and scientists to collaborate freely across interstellar distances. This act simply expands upon that success.
By expanding the reach of the network outside the walls of academia, we have the potential to unleash enormous economic forces. In the short term they may well be disruptive to current paradigms, but in the long term they should unlock new avenues for economic growth in the Empire.
  • Increase Academic HPG Network rating from 2 to 3
  • +1 Research Event
  • +1 Approval Change
  • -1 Economic Event
  • Unlocks certain event chains
[]Veto the Imperial Communications Act of 3061The current level of funding for the Academic HPG Network is more than sufficient to account for its needs and to provide the Empire with the benefits we’ve grown accustomed to. Expanding it further is simply unnecessary, and will cause unwelcome economic disruption in a time of war.
  • -1 Approval
  • -1 Politics
  • +1 Economic Event

The other bit of legislation comes with a note from the Eldest strongly opposing it, and considering that it only passed by the most razor-thin of margins in both the Senate and the Chamber of Delegates you are already rather leery of it.

The Foreign Trade Control Act of 3061 is the single most extensive bit of protectionist legislation you’ve ever seen. It would effectively lock out most ‘foreign’ competition in Imperial markets with crippling tariffs, and would force the Navy to spend far more time than you consider even vaguely reasonable in customs enforcement, since the Act would ban the importation of any products that in any way, shape, or form competed with anything domestically produced unless they paid ruinous tariffs.

You barely hesitate a moment before vetoing the monstrosity with quite a bit of almost savage glee. You also take the time to record a statement for the press detailing exactly why, including just how many of the Senators and Delegates who supported it stood to profit enormously by the elimination of competition for their own, personal, businesses. The howls of ineffective outrage coming from the halls of Parliament are music to your ears.

Unfortunately, satisfying as this was, this has a totally unintended side effect.

The Department of Periphery Studies has decided that they really need to try their hand at forming a mock Parliament, and have done so… in the gardens surrounding the Palace, where they are loudly debating such important subjects as banning blinker fluid… at the top of their lungs, while chasing each other around with foam ‘canes’ to administer proper ‘parliamentary beatings’.

QM Note - due to Parliament utterly botching their second roll, get +1 Politics and +1 Approval Change, -1 Influence for the Senate and Chamber of Deputies.
 

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