'Climate Change' and the coming 'Climate Lockdown'

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IIRC some Electric cars had issues with the throttles getting stuck on full blast, making them utterly uncontrollable lmao.
 

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IIRC some Electric cars had issues with the throttles getting stuck on full blast, making them utterly uncontrollable lmao.
To be fair, I've seen that happen on gas cars, too. I was almost hit by one.

That said, I'm definitely not ever getting an electric car. I drive a gas guzzling SUV and I like it that way lol
 
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I figure give it a few more decades and the technology might be reasonably mature.

I'm certainly in no rush though.
All depends on battery tech. A price or longevity revolution there is necessary. Until then, they are stuck in the current niche.
 

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That's part of the problem. The other is that almost all firefighting units don't have the right foam equipment to put those chemicals out once they start going.
The problem is that there's nothing really that can extinguish it in the sense of cutting off oxygen. Once the batteries reach a certain temperature, they go full chain reaction, and if the runaway battery reaction even needs oxygen, the byproducts at least in some can include... oxygen, which will proceed to fuel the fire even if external oxygen is cut off. To stop the fire the whole thing needs to get cooled down back below the runaway temperature, and of course it's very hard to get so much water into the half molten battery compartment.
Hence inventions like this:
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There's something hilarious about the fact that Hollywood has been showing gas cars exploding when shot at for years while that's exceedingly difficult to make happen, and now we finally have electric cars that explode for absolutely no reason at all.
 

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Well, since this seems to be a "General-purpose Green idiocy!" thread:


Devil's advocate but just because 'plastic is everywhere and is unavoidable' is not a justification for it to be so common.
The stuff is slowly fucking us all up, and we really only leaped onto plastic for profit-related reasons, instead of functional ones.
We were chugging along just fine with copper pipes and glass/ceramic/metal everything else. Plastic was an unneeded sin.
 

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Devil's advocate but just because 'plastic is everywhere and is unavoidable' is not a justification for it to be so common.
The stuff is slowly fucking us all up, and we really only leaped onto plastic for profit-related reasons, instead of functional ones.
We were chugging along just fine with copper pipes and glass/ceramic/metal everything else. Plastic was an unneeded sin.

Understandable, and increasingly in agreement with the general thrust of what you're getting at.

Mostly, I'm reticent to jump aboard the train of More surveillance!", "More regulation!", and "More government!" as the almighty panacea to all the stuff on Ms. Bradford's loony wish-list. For those that have voluntary, entrepreneurial solutions that work effectively and are genuinely sustainable (read: not merely advertised as such) ... then okay, color me interested. Just ... not when it's a Trojan Horse for Wokeness, Socialism, or all the other big-government "-isms" the Western World is already up to its eyeballs in.
 

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Devil's advocate but just because 'plastic is everywhere and is unavoidable' is not a justification for it to be so common.
The stuff is slowly fucking us all up, and we really only leaped onto plastic for profit-related reasons, instead of functional ones.
We were chugging along just fine with copper pipes and glass/ceramic/metal everything else. Plastic was an unneeded sin.
plastic literally means artificial organic material.
and the only problematic part in it is the toxic additives.
Also, as he noted, copper requires mining which is a very dirty industry.

Please do not advocate for the devil. he has far too many simps already today.
What we should be looking at are:
1. water treatment plants should filter micro plastics. we have the tech. but are not using it
2. use less toxic additives
3. have cleanup programs where we pay people to collect plastic trash from the sea and the like so it can be properly disposed of.
 

ThatZenoGuy

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plastic literally means artificial organic material.
and the only problematic part in it is the toxic additives.
Come on, you know what I mean by plastic. I don't mean cast iron skillet seasoning, I mean the real nasty dime a dozen chinesium plastics that make up most crap nowadays. The stuff which visibly degrades after a couple days in the sun and pollutes like crazy.
 

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Democrat Donor Arrested for Starting Massive Fire Democrats Blamed on Climate Change

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Democrat Donor Arrested for Starting Massive Fire Democrats Blamed on Climate Change

Several firefighters injured in 'ginormous' blaze; suspect also donated to the Lincoln Project

What happened: Authorities busted a Democratic donor for allegedly starting a "ginormous inferno" in Yosemite National Park. Democratic politicians had insisted climate change was to blame for the blaze, which destroyed more than 100 homes and injured several firefighters in July 2022.

• Edward Fredrick Wackerman (his actual name) of Mariposa, Calif., faces a number of charges including aggravated arson following his arrest on Friday.

By the numbers: The arson suspect has donated $1,775 to Democratic candidates and committees since 2020, government records show, including a $1,000 donation to Tim Ryan's failed U.S. Senate campaign in 2022 and $400 to the Lincoln Project, a disgraced liberal super PAC.

• The so-called Oak Fire destroyed 127 homes and 66 outbuildings. Roughly 6,000 people were forced to evacuate as the inferno torched 30 square miles of land and smoke from the fire drifted more than 200 miles into parts of Nevada and the San Francisco Bay Area.

What they're saying: "Ed Wackerman is facing several felony charges, including aggravated arson. These charges carry serious legal consequences and the District Attorney is committed to ensuring a fair trial and upholding justice," Mariposa County District Attorney Walter Wall said in a statement. Authorities did not say how Wackerman is believed to have started the fire.

What they said: "Thank you to all the firefighters and first responders working tirelessly under difficult conditions to combat the #OakFire," Sen. Alex Padilla (D., Calif.) wrote on Twitter on July 25, 2022. "Worsening drought and severe weather will only continue to put lives and property at risk from wildfire if we don't take climate action NOW."

• "More people will be killed and the survival of our civilization is at stake," former Vice President Al Gore said on July 24, 2022, citing climate change as the reason "droughts and fires are hitting us so hard."

Crucial context: Several days before Wackerman's arrest, authorities busted Democratic donor Themis Matsoukas for allegedly performing sexual acts with his dog at Rothrock State Forest in Pennsylvania. "I do it to blow off steam," the Elizabeth Warren supporter told investigators.

• Matsoukas is 64 years old; Wackerman is 71.

Bottom line: We need a total and complete shutdown of liberal Baby Boomers entering state and national parks until we can figure out what the hell is going on.


The 2020 wildfires so close to the Portland Metro have these vibes. There was a lumber company that had logs on fire but they were 50+ miles from the nearest wildfire at that time. I could totally see both theories here. Wrongdoers or a legit wildfire!
 

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Democrat Donor Arrested for Starting Massive Fire Democrats Blamed on Climate Change




The 2020 wildfires so close to the Portland Metro have these vibes. There was a lumber company that had logs on fire but they were 50+ miles from the nearest wildfire at that time. I could totally see both theories here. Wrongdoers or a legit wildfire!
It's basically common knowledge at this point that many 'fires' are just arson attacks by political extremists. No different than the Reichstag fire.
 

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