'Climate Change' and the coming 'Climate Lockdown'

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Cherico said:
This sort of thing has happened before.

There are several ways it can end.

1. They are kicked out of power peacefully because everyone gets tired of their shit.

2. The worst offenders get removed in a coup.

3. The leading forces of the establishment use them as a scapegoat and turn them over to the mob to save themselves.

4. The entire establishment is brutally murdered by a mob of angry people who no longer care about the conquences and just want the suffering to end.
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Nah. those are all very unlikely.
Every communist country shows us how it is done easy peasy.
You have the serfs and the oligarchs.

The serfs stand in the bread line. There is one government approved option for every product. some products are in shortage, others in glut.
Culsu said:
Yes, Klaus Schwab, the people will have nothing eventually: no private homes, no private transportation. But they won't be happy about it.
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Ah... but the polls say there is 150% approval.
That surely shows they are very happy.
 
mrttao said:
Nah. those are all very unlikely.
Every communist country shows us how it is done easy peasy.
You have the serfs and the oligarchs.

The serfs stand in the bread line. There is one government approved option for every product. some products are in shortage, others in glut.

Ah... but the polls say there is 150% approval.
That surely shows they are very happy.
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Look around and see that pretty much all of the communist countries collapsed the ones that havent like north korea are proped up by outsiders.
 
Cherico said:
The populist back lash has already started and I expect all of this to end in horrific bloodshed.
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Maybe in other countries it will. But as usual, Germany and its docile population will ride this wave out to be on the right side of history to the bitter end. Once again.
 
Culsu said:
Maybe in other countries it will. But as usual, Germany and its docile population will ride this wave out to be on the right side of history to the bitter end. Once again.
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The german people always have a plan, sometimes the plan goes horribly wrong....
 
Cherico said:
Look around and see that pretty much all of the communist countries collapsed the ones that havent like north korea are proped up by outsiders.
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1. Every country of every type eventually collapses. The commie countries still had a long run of oppressing people before they collapsed

2. The divide between serfs and aristocracy remains post collapse.
 
Man-made climate change is a fact. It will cause serious disruptions.

What one SHOULD be worried about is just who intends to deal with this and how.

I don't care what anyone thinks about vaccines, Trump, Biden, whatever- only someone with his head stuck in the sand can possibly deny that the way governments handled the Covid-19 mess was an utter, total, 100% complete incompetent mess. The repercussions from the way it was handled are now being felt and are devastating.

Do we want such know-nothing idiots making regulations to deal with something like climate change?

I sure as hell don't want Hollywood types and government big shots flying around in private jets criss-crossing the sky with hideous chemtrails telling ME about the environment.

When I have enough money I am going to try to improve some "free energy" devices as they have already shown some promise. Maybe it will fail, or at least not amount to enough to really help the situation, but at least I'm going to try, and if something comes of it then people can have energy independence, at least some. That means more personal freedom.
 
Allanon said:
Man-made climate change is a fact. It will cause serious disruptions.
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Umm...this is NOT a fact. The science is definitely NOT proven to show this.
Allanon said:
I don't care what anyone thinks about vaccines, Trump, Biden, whatever- only someone with his head stuck in the sand can possibly deny that the way governments handled the Covid-19 mess was an utter, total, 100% complete incompetent mess. The repercussions from the way it was handled are now being felt and are devastating.
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Totally agree.
Allanon said:
When I have enough money I am going to try to improve some "free energy" devices as they have already shown some promise. Maybe it will fail, or at least not amount to enough to really help the situation, but at least I'm going to try, and if something comes of it then people can have energy independence, at least some. That means more personal freedom.
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Good luck!
 
There's no doubt we are affecting the climate in some way -- I mean, we have dumped a load of shit into the atmosphere and oceans for the last two hundred or so years, such as that gas which was used in things like hairspray -- but to the level that the grifters, doom and gloomers, and dumb college kids spout off? Not a chance.

I mean, I remember an infamous meme that took the piss out of the "the sea levels are rising!" hysteria... by showing the same tide-mark level at a coastal location that's been the same for two hundred years.

Boy, my feet sure are getting wet, fellas!
 
Robovski said:
While I'm not purposefully wasteful and try to be considerate in my choices, at the time I am not for lowering our standard of living especially when there is vastly more pollution coming from outside my country (*cough* China *cough*).
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The treaty Trump would not sign exempted China, India, and Russia. Had it gone through it may well have been the loophole to allow them to continue on for decades while Western nations get over-regulated by people who know nothing about environmental science (thus making everything WORSE).

I'm not some dreamer about free energy- I have already built some bifilar Tesla-style coils and toroid rings, and have already seen some promising results. Right now it's sort of at the level where the Wright Bros. were- but the line between cannot and can has been crossed.

Of course plans written in "normal guy" style and illustrations will be made available free of charge.
 
Allanon said:
The treaty Trump would not sign exempted China, India, and Russia. Had it gone through it may well have been the loophole to allow them to continue on for decades while Western nations get over-regulated by people who know nothing about environmental science (thus making everything WORSE).
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Those countries' attitudes towards such things are "fuck" and "you".

Though, industrial production in China has started taking its toll on them now, and the Ganges in India? Well, seeing a half-cremated corpse floating by you as you go about your business (such as shitting in said river) is a common enough occurrence that people aren't fazed by it.
 
Allanon said:
Man-made climate change is a fact. It will cause serious disruptions.

What one SHOULD be worried about is just who intends to deal with this and how.

I don't care what anyone thinks about vaccines, Trump, Biden, whatever- only someone with his head stuck in the sand can possibly deny that the way governments handled the Covid-19 mess was an utter, total, 100% complete incompetent mess. The repercussions from the way it was handled are now being felt and are devastating.
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That very fact shows that whatever the disruptions will be, those countries do not consider them serious enough, and knowing the politically incorrect maps of who the hypothetical disruptions would hit worst, if it's not enough to genuinely scare them, then certainly it's not the West who should be scared.

Hence, the issue is either not as serious as its painted, or its bullshit in general.
One thing is certain, the remedies advertised for the modeled serious disruptions will cause serious disruptions to those who use them, while not even giving a guarantee of avoiding the disruptions they are supposed to prevent, which they certainly won't if those other countries don't take this seriously, so enjoy your double disruptions for no benefit.
Allanon said:
Do we want such know-nothing idiots making regulations to deal with something like climate change?

I sure as hell don't want Hollywood types and government big shots flying around in private jets criss-crossing the sky with hideous chemtrails telling ME about the environment.

When I have enough money I am going to try to improve some "free energy" devices as they have already shown some promise. Maybe it will fail, or at least not amount to enough to really help the situation, but at least I'm going to try, and if something comes of it then people can have energy independence, at least some. That means more personal freedom.
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There are no free energy devices, learn some basic physics before you waste your time.
 
Allanon said:
Man-made climate change is a fact. It will cause serious disruptions.
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Marduk said:
There are no free energy devices, learn some basic physics before you waste your time.
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Or Thermodynamics. It has laws.

1st: Energy can not be created or destroyed, only transformed.
2nd: Entropy always increases.
3rd: Heat always flows towards the lower temperature.
 
Solar Panels are "free energy" in the sense that you don't need to buy fuel for them, it comes from the sun for free.
Ditto hydro, wind, geothermal...
 
And are hideously bad for the environment when you factor anything except being able to generate some energy from renewable sources.

Like mining the huge amounts of rare earth's for solar and EVs, windmills requiring a huge amount of maintenance, the broken parts becoming permanent landfill additions, and the apparent horrific effects the windmills have on birds and sealife.

Nuclear is better in every way and other energy sources are at least comparable.
 
Scottty said:
Solar Panels are "free energy" in the sense that you don't need to buy fuel for them, it comes from the sun for free.
Ditto hydro, wind, geothermal...
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Solar, Wind, Hydro, geothermal all have one thing in common.

Geography matters. As long as you use renewables in places where they make sense you can really help out with power generation, but if you allocate resources badly your just going to waste money.

In other words solar in Tusan makes sense solar in Toronto is stupid.
 
Terthna said:
They'll just print more.
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THIS.
People need to understand that with fiat currency, there's infinite money. Not to be confused with infinite wealth.
"Oh no, the government needs 50 trillion dollars for some project, they cannot possibly pay that!"
>Pays it in a day by making the money out of thin air
They will never 'run out' of money, you'll just notice your own money becomes more and more worthless.
It's already happening as well, inflation has gone batshit insane in America and that spreads to other countries over time.
Does anyone not remember when a few cents was actually capable of buying stuff? Try buying something for 2-5 cents nowadays, good luck!
 
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