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Yes, you're right. Politics is just downstream of culture.

For a society to be modernized, the clan system has to be torn apart. People shouldn't be ordered on basis of where their family lives, but rather where they are needed.

and you have just listed one of the major down sides of modernity an issue that makes family formation harder the raising of children harder and which makes people in general less happy over all.
 
and you have just listed one of the major down sides of modernity an issue that makes family formation harder the raising of children harder and which makes people in general less happy over all.
Not at all. People living alone or in small families are happier than those forced to live with extended families.
 
and you have just listed one of the major down sides of modernity an issue that makes family formation harder the raising of children harder and which makes people in general less happy over all.

Not at all. People living alone or in small families are happier than those forced to live with extended families.
You missed the point. To the Arabs and other groups who ascribe to amoral familism, only blood matters. Nothing outside that matters. You can lie, cheat, steal and murder so long as it furthers your family's situation. Hell , the whole Latino world and Eastern Europe, with exceptions, only with blood do you succeed. From business to government, nepotism is the law
 
Not at all. People living alone or in small families are happier than those forced to live with extended families.

With smaller families you have put a lot of extra pressure and effort onto the parents.

Having grand parents who can help out with the kids, aunts and uncles taking over some days to let you relax, people who can help support you not if but when things go to shit. These are very valuable things extra pairs of eyes and hands can make a very difficult task much easier.

Are there disavantages yes but having a large extended family is also in many ways a boon.
 
You missed the point. To the Arabs, only blood matters. Nothing outside that matters. You can lie, cheat, steal and murder so long as it furthers your family's situation
The topic had drifted away from that. Cherico was talking about how people in small families are unhappy, and I said otherwise.

Are there disavantages yes but having a large extended family is also in many ways a boon
Tell that to people who live in them.
 
Maybe. I, personally, have no intentions of doing so.

Back to China, daily reminder that China will never surpass the US:

Lets correct that to not under the CCP

No one knows what the future will bring and when the communists are gone it might be the thing nessary for a revival of china as a civilization or the US could self destruct, or any number of things. But I think we both agree the CCP sucks.
 
Lets correct that to not under the CCP

No one knows what the future will bring and when the communists are gone it might be the thing nessary for a revival of china as a civilization or the US could self destruct, or any number of things. But I think we both agree the CCP sucks.
A lot of damage has been done by and under the CCP, but again until China loses its cultural arrogance, it doesn't matter what government or leadership China or the lands it currently controls fall under e.g. multiple sucessor governments; nothing will meaningfully change.

China isn't a civilizational "top dog" any more like they were in antiquity, and they haven't been for hundreds of years. They need to accept that.
 
The CCP will destroy China before they relinquish a scrap of power.

China has been destroyed by madmen before and risen from the ashes before. The future of china is not set in stone.

A lot of damage has been done by and under the CCP, but again until China loses its cultural arrogance, it doesn't matter what government or leadership China or the lands it currently controls fall under e.g. multiple sucessor governments; nothing will meaningfully change.

China isn't a civilizational "top dog" any more like they were in antiquity, and they haven't been for hundreds of years. They need to accept that.

India if anything used to be even worse then china when it came to arrogance.

Generations of brutal islamic invasion and opression followed by the Rai has pretty much ended that, and that civilization is now starting to go places again. It might be that the end of the CCP will be what it takes for china to retake stock of itself.

That said I think the west has to deal with its own ego problems because that's causing us a lot of issues.
 
China has been destroyed by madmen before and risen from the ashes before. The future of china is not set in stone.



India if anything used to be even worse then china when it came to arrogance.

Generations of brutal islamic invasion and opression followed by the Rai has pretty much ended that, and that civilization is now starting to go places again. It might be that the end of the CCP will be what it takes for china to retake stock of itself.

That said I think the west has to deal with its own ego problems because that's causing us a lot of issues.
Except that the West, especially America, actually could walk the talk with most its ego/arrogance, which was ultimately detrimental, of course.

sigh No need to go into how badly the West has degenerated in the last few decades.
India is still ridiculously arrogant for a country that's comparable to Sub Saharan Africa.
India is in a weird place: They're progressing in leaps and bounds in some areas, such as space travel, but in others they're decaying or haven't modernized at all.

You still have some villages think that toilets are some sort of holy shrine, as an example. Let's not even get into the sexual assaults and literal rape culture out there [which Western "feminists" are surprisingly quiet about! Hum!], and their laws being so lax that scammers can literally build million dollar operations in the hearts of cities.

And then there's the Ganges. Yeah. :confused:
 
It's the infrastructure behind it that matters , and that's what they're advancing.
Most of it is just imported from foreign countries at high costs. It's nothing more than an ineffectual attempt to look like a modern country.

All in all, I'd say India is as irrelevant as any Subsaharan country like Burundi or Niger.
 
Most of it is just imported from foreign countries at high costs. It's nothing more than an ineffectual attempt to look like a modern country.

All in all, I'd say India is as irrelevant as any Subsaharan country like Burundi or Niger.
India's got a lot of potential. They just need to develop it.
 
India is the Potential Man of geopolitics. I guess that makes it the successor of Brazil, which has been a future superpower for over a hundred years.

Brazil has a mountain range between their productive regions and the global ocean that's the thing that's holding them back.

Seriously the mountain passes that get the produce to market are essentially grid lock traffic, and doing this by truck is the most expensive way to do it. Ideally Brazil should have used the low credit environment to build a rail way through the mountains which would help keep costs some what competitive when it all dried up but the brazilian government fucked that up so their likely going to have some bad times.

Geography can be a bitch.
 

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