Could be... but what are the chances?
For one China doesn't like letting non-controlled people do anything too big.
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For one China doesn't like letting non-controlled people do anything too big.
The same thing since Mao. Our total collapse and the world under CCP control. In the same manner they've instituted in China with the technology they commissioned from us. And over time all our cultures and history erased and replaced with Chinese Style Communist filth.
IndyFront
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They want everywhere in Asia outside of Japan under CCP control, the west they want to be One Big EU - likely under a North Atlantic Union confederation, as China is the only country outside of NATO besides Japan typically invited to the Bilderberg meetings: List of Bilderberg participants - Wikipedia
SoliFortissimi
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The chances are slim to none, and I haven't missed how you don't from confidently declaring that they're involved to arguing that their involvement isn't impossible.
Or in other words, you don't have any real reason to believe this.
China hasn't shown any interest in that so far. Mostly because they probably know it's impossible.
No i did not. I have stated that the chances of that just being one are doubtful, and i take your judgement of said chances with a bulk freighter's worth of salt.
Next time i promise to be even more clearly skeptical of your attempts to doubt the centralizing nature of CCP in foreign acquisition operations.
I literally gave you a reason in the previous post, this is not something where CCP would like to get scammed over themselves considering the money and power involved, so they must be using someone they consider trusted - most definitely a party member, possibly a spook.
And you have no argument to convince me otherwise.
A good video on how China steals, copies, and ultimately fails at duplicating technology from the West and Russia.
Also shows how less of a paper tiger their military is, and how duplicitious their nuclear strategies are.
SoliFortissimi
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You mean more, right?
Yep. I blame the painkillers for that mistake.
you never know how hard a man is until they scrap.
SoliFortissimi
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My entirely uneducated opinion is that the PLA is a Arab tier army that will be destroyed in less than 3 months against a moderate sized US force. Basically just another Iraq.
That's what happens when your army has more experience against unarmed students than enemy soldiers.
That's what happens when your army has more experience against unarmed students than enemy soldiers.
Well there is also the fact that the last time China actually fought was against vietnam and that ended badly then there is the corruption epidemic, and a host of other issues. I fully expect the PLA to be garbage on the offense, but conversely I expect them to actually be a threat on the defensive because of their shear numbers if nothing else.
If america and China get into a war the smart move for america is to blockaid them obliterate their navy and cut them off from international trade actual boots on the ground in china proper would go badly very badly.
SoliFortissimi
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So just another repeat of the Gulf War?
There were some small wars with India,and,if i remember correctly,they even win there.They also conqered Tibet - but there was no army to face them there.
So,we would see how good or bad they are when WW3 start.
P.S there is also one child policy which killed their spirits - if somebody is only son ,then he must survive to take care of his parents,becouse state certainly would not.It is not cowardice.
They're even worse: At least Arab armies try to fight, except for in A Certain Country That America Recently Left. The Chinese literally just ran for their fucking lives in every foreign engagement, and instead of helping out on the high seas versus pirates and such, they... sail for their lives.
If it came down to a Chinese platoon armed with Chinese-made weapons and a bunch of gorillas, as in the Great Apes not guerrillas, armed with Russian AK-47's, I'd bet my money on the fucking gorillas, haha.
Then you haven't been paying attention. This strategy has returned with Xi's ascension to Premier. All of Asia sinocized the rest of the world as tributary vassals to be annexed and sinocized as circumstances dictate. The old Imperial model every dynasty has employed in the last several thousand years.
SoliFortissimi
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.....Afghanistan is Pashtun, not Arab. It's not even adjacent to Arab countries. And the army that beat the national Afghan army was also majority Pashtun.
Then they're free to waste their time. They can't even dominate India or North Korea, let alone the world.
Tomato, Tomatoe, really.
Same levels of training, same levels of equipment, same levels of incompetence and cowardice. shrug
SoliFortissimi
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And now you're just talking nonsense. Arabs and Pashtuns aren't even slightly alike. And from all accounts, the Pashtun are very much a warrior race that has no shortage of courage...and enough competence that they defeated two Superpowers in a row. While the Arabs always have great equipment that they're just too incompetent to use.
Besides, it's not a matter of cowardice. It's a matter of how politics interacts with the military. Arab militaries, just like the Chinese, are effectively just a personal militia for the oligarchs. They are meant to march in parades, kill protesters, and crush rebels. They aren't national armies like those in the West, armies made by and for the nation to defend itself from enemies both external and internal. And this difference in political philosophy ensures that only the latter can be trusted to be anything more than a glorified gang.
Not political. It's cultural. Specifically Amoral Familism.
SoliFortissimi
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Yes, you're right. Politics is just downstream of culture.
For a society to be modernized, the clan system has to be torn apart. People shouldn't be ordered on basis of where their family lives, but rather where they are needed.