Boomstick's and shooty shooty bang bang's - The GUN Thread!

[ShadowArxxy]

Probably designed to be California compliant, which is naturally why California doesn't like it, because they want to get rid of AR-15s entirely rather than just have versions that actually comply their asinine laws.

It's an *extremely* smart-ass workaround because it installs a fixed ten-round magazine which cannot be easily detached from the weapon...it's just that the gun doesn't actually fire rounds from this magazine. This is literally sticking a stack of .22 LR bullets in the handle of the AR-15 and saying that counts as the gun's magazine for legal purposes, as opposed to the normal detachable magazine that the firearm actually feeds from.

 

[Captain X]

Honestly I kind of hope some smartass would design and AR variant that could top feed from stripper clips like old school guns.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Honestly I kind of hope some smartass would design and AR variant that could top feed from stripper clips like old school guns.

As a matter of fact, U.S. military 5.56mm ammo comes factory packaged in 10-round stripper clips with a metal 'spoon' that clips to the magazines to load, and Thermold sells a civilian version made of plastic.

One company *does* make a stripper clip system that works on California compliant AR-15s with a fixed magazine, but it loads through the ejection port. This is much more practical than a traditional top feed stripper clip, since the AR's inline action means the magazine is much further down in the rifle than that of a bolt action.

 

[Captain X]

Early semi-auto rifles had a top loading action as well. Just look at the Garand, SKS, and FN-49 as examples.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Early semi-auto rifles had a top loading action as well. Just look at the Garand, SKS, and FN-49 as examples.

Yes, that's why I pointed out that it's the inline action that makes it difficult to re-engineer an AR-15 type rifle into the traditional top loading stripper clip design, and much easier to side-load through the existing ejection port.

 

[stephen the barbarian]

Honestly I kind of hope some smartass would design and AR variant that could top feed from stripper clips like old school guns.

sometimes i wonder if a mag system similar to the RSC 1917, where an en block clip is inserted into the bottom of the mag, would work.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

sometimes i wonder if a mag system similar to the RSC 1917, where an en block clip is inserted into the bottom of the mag, would work.

Sure, it would work; there's just *very little point* to it since only California has these super obnoxious rules about semiautomatic detachable magazine rifles.

 

[GROGNARD]

Picked up a lightly used Walther PK380 yesterday. Pistol, 3 magazines, paddle holster, gun case and 50 rounds of ammo, all for $400. Black slide, pink polymer frame. I like the way it shoots, but I havent decided yet on whom to gift it to: my Wife or my Daughter.


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[Jormungandr]

Okay, I'm a bit confused here as I've heard a few things that I can't confirm, but is the US replacing the AR rifle family in their arsenal with a newer gun?

 

[Buba]

is the US replacing the AR rifle family in their arsenal with a newer gun?

Yes. Supposedly. There is a programme to do it, apparently at final decision stage (maybe past it?). With some silly name like New Generation Advanced Super BattleRifle "WarWinner" TM Wunderwaffe.

XM7 rifle - Wikipedia

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I havent decided yet on whom to gift it to: my Wife or my Daughter.

Have them fight over it? Arrange a shootout - who wins gets it?

 

[Jormungandr]

Yes. Supposedly. There is a programme to do it, apparently at final decision stage (maybe past it?). With some silly name like New Generation Advanced Super BattleRifle "WarWinner" TM Wunderwaffe.

XM7 rifle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Have them fight over it? Arrange a shootout - who wins gets it?

...That is one ugly looking gun.

 

[Zachowon]

...That is one ugly looking gun.

I mean it is just a AR platform. Plenty look like it.

It beat out GD bullpen design

 

[Buba]

...That is one ugly looking gun.

The DoD went for the "outdoorsy rugged manlyness" look?

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Okay, I'm a bit confused here as I've heard a few things that I can't confirm, but is the US replacing the AR rifle family in their arsenal with a newer gun?

The Army has been "replacing the AR rifle" since literally before it was adopted; the AR-15/M-16 entered service with the Air Force in 1964 and the Army was *very* reluctantly forced to adopt it as an "interim" substitute for their perpetually delayed next-generation infantry rifle project.

Which failed. As did the next one, and the next one, and the next one after that. In fact, the M-16/M4 family has become the longest-serving service rifle in American history, despite the Army trying to get rid of it all along.

 

[Zachowon]

This weapon is still in that style just an increase in size of round.
This has also made it further then any other ttempt by actually being deployed to units

 

[ShadowArxxy]

This weapon is still in that style just an increase in size of round.
This has also made it further then any other ttempt by actually being deployed to units

It's not *exactly* an M-16 with a piston conversion, but it's pretty damn close and even has nearly-identical ergonomics. The MCX upper receiver is even cross compatible with AR lowers.

 

[Sailor.X]

Fire Marshal Bill approves.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

As the saying goes, "There are many like it, but this one is mine."

I've been planning on purchasing an AR-type rifle for a few years at this point, and decided to go ahead at the end of last month due to the imminent passage of Oregon Measure 114's restrictions on firearm purchases.

It's a Palmetto State Armory AR-15 upper and lower (purchased seperately), with an 18" stainless steel barrel and Magpul M-LOK furniture; I've minimally accessorized with Magpul handguards and a BCM KAG angled foregrip, and will probably pick up some optics after my wallet recovers from the holiday season.

 

[Sailor.X]

As the saying goes, "There are many like it, but this one is mine."

I've been planning on purchasing an AR-type rifle for a few years at this point, and decided to go ahead at the end of last month due to the imminent passage of Oregon Measure 114's restrictions on firearm purchases.

It's a Palmetto State Armory AR-15 upper and lower (purchased seperately), with an 18" stainless steel barrel and Magpul M-LOK furniture; I've minimally accessorized with Magpul handguards and a BCM KAG angled foregrip, and will probably pick up some optics after my wallet recovers from the holiday season.

Get a 60 round Drum Magazine for it while you can in your state.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Get a 60 round Drum Magazine for it while you can in your state.

I seriously thought about it, but in the end, I decided I didn't want to spend that much money just to spite the new restrictions; drum magazines are annoyingly overpriced and not very reliable. Instead, I bought a nice little stockpile of eight 30 round KCI mags and three 20 round PMAG v3 magazines.