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Zachowon

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They do understand that this will also heavily HEAVILY effect bluebstates right?
 

Zachowon

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And when the people in Cali are all suffering the population they use against the right may go after these places they have walls around
 

mrttao

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But we know full well they won't pass one, much less enforce it even-handedly. You know it, I know it, and they probably know it, too.

At this point, I think it's a waste of time to project our own views and desires of what the government should do onto self-serving politicians who have little interest in doing it.

Instead, we should focus on political realities and learn how to make due with (or better yet, capitalize on) those. And as far as those are concerned… well, Red State nullification isn't the worst thing that could come out of this. Might even be good for us, in some ways — especially if it stops unilateral federal supremacy in its tracks throughout large swaths of the country.
Honestly, I don't understand why red states are not using it already.

We have had blue "sanctuary cities" or "sanctuary states" for a long time now that simply ignore things like federal laws about illegal immigration.

So why don't we have red sanctuary states which ignore liberal federal laws?
 

Captain X

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The number one barrier to that is going to be Federal funding. Most if not all red states are pretty dependent on it to fund things like road maintenance and education. Actually probably a lot more than you'd realize. This is why, for example, the drinking age in all states is 21 even though in the past, some states had lower ones. Unless states can become more self-sufficient, a lot of this probably won't work, and it will be a hard time doing that because it will mean raising state and local taxes.
 

DarthOne

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Honestly, I don't understand why red states are not using it already.

We have had blue "sanctuary cities" or "sanctuary states" for a long time now that simply ignore things like federal laws about illegal immigration.

So why don't we have red sanctuary states which ignore liberal federal laws?
Because, like many mainstream ‘right wing’ political groups in Europe, the majority of the Republican Party is on board with this while pretending they aren’t.

Which is why they do little of note to stop this stuff.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
The number one barrier to that is going to be Federal funding. Most if not all red states are pretty dependent on it to fund things like road maintenance and education. Actually probably a lot more than you'd realize. This is why, for example, the drinking age in all states is 21 even though in the past, some states had lower ones. Unless states can become more self-sufficient, a lot of this probably won't work, and it will be a hard time doing that because it will mean raising state and local taxes.

Actually, that makes me wonder what the ratio of taxes paid to funding received looks like? Because off the top of my head, I'm guessing much of the funding received is federal tax revenue collected and redistributed back to Red States that could've kept it and allocated it themselves, if they told the Feds to fuck off.

Even if not, there's still the breakdown of which areas federal funding goes to (such as military assets) and whether state efforts (or better yet, the private sector) can replace what's been lost. They'll have to, if they want to free themselves of Blue States who've been pissing all the wealth they've created into the gutter and are too mired in red tape to generate more. Come 2043, and maybe the tables will have turned — with wealthy Red States slamming the door on impoverished Blue States who're come crawling to the negotiating table.
 

Bear Ribs

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They don't care. They will issue "special compensation" for friends and campaign contributors.
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Actually, that makes me wonder what the ratio of taxes paid to funding received looks like? Because off the top of my head, I'm guessing much of the funding received is federal tax revenue collected and redistributed back to Red States that could've kept it and allocated it themselves, if they told the Feds to fuck off.

Even if not, there's still the breakdown of which areas federal funding goes to (such as military assets) and whether state efforts (or better yet, the private sector) can replace what's been lost. They'll have to, if they want to free themselves of Blue States who've been pissing all the wealth they've created into the gutter and are too mired in red tape to generate more. Come 2043, and maybe the tables will have turned — with wealthy Red States slamming the door on impoverished Blue States who're come crawling to the negotiating table.
On paper, red states average more funding per tax dollar they send in compared to blue states.

This is, however, heavily dependent on some creative accounting processes.

To whit, 40 states receive more funding than they send in for taxes, and it's split fairly evenly between red and blue states. The actual determinant of who gets more funding is which states have more wealth in the first place, wealthy states naturally get less in the way of aid programs like SNAP while poor states get more. Since California, New York, Hawaii, and a few other coastal states are extremely wealthy and also solid blue, they skew the results significantly. New Mexico is also a blue state and gets the highest amount of federal dollars relative to its tax rate.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Thanks for the tip-offs! (y)

Will peruse the links later, but with regard to this:

To whit, 40 states receive more funding than they send in for taxes, and it's split fairly evenly between red and blue states. The actual determinant of who gets more funding is which states have more wealth in the first place, wealthy states naturally get less in the way of aid programs like SNAP while poor states get more. Since California, New York, Hawaii, and a few other coastal states are extremely wealthy and also solid blue, they skew the results significantly. New Mexico is also a blue state and gets the highest amount of federal dollars relative to its tax rate.

Yeah, I figured the truth was more complicated to begin with.

In any case, while I'm aware Blue States on the coasts are wealthier and more economically diversified now, the fact they're blowing their wealth out their ass will probably place them on more "equal" footing with Red States in a few decades' time.

Even then, things won't hold constant, if the growth of Texas, Florida, and even Utah continues at a respectable pace. Obviously, there's a chance currently Red States won't stay Red forever, but even if they don't (or the incumbent GOP fumbles the ball), I think the consequences of going Full Hochul, Full Newsom, or Full Pritzker will be laid bare for all to see. Hard to think of worse governors than them, really. :rolleyes:
 

bintananth

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Biden Administration Rule Would Ban Nearly All Portable Gas-Powered Generators




t's anti-middle-class-ism from the super-wealthy.
Conservation and increased energy efficiency: good.
How the greens are go about it: Pants on head retarted.

I liked this bit from TFA:
"This Administration is using all of the tools at our disposal to save Americans money while promoting innovations that will reduce carbon pollution and combat the climate crisis," Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm said in a statement about the regulations.

The stuff they're pushing does not save Americans money. It's usually more expensive and often not a suitable substitute for the application.

Take this proposal, for example: they're conviently neglecting the fact that these gas powered generators are mainly used to provide electricity when the power grid is either down, inadaquate, or not available at all.

If they were serious about cutting pollution and minimizing encironmental impact we'd have:
- nuclear poweplants as the default
- hydroelectric plants at every large waterfall
- as much geothermal as we can get wherever it makes sense
- solar on roftops ... not in what used to be a farm field

Wind and solar (both are very bad for wildlife) would not be the go to thing for "green energy". Plus: the polution from making those plants and what's left over when they break/wear out is nothing to sneeze at.

(enough of that rant ...)

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"Rules for thee, but not for me." Something the left will accuse the right of doing at the drop of a hat. Projection much? It's also something the rich do without a hint of irony.

"You can't have that 5hp (3.75kW) emergency generator because it's horrible for the environment and don't you use that fireplace." while flying overseas on a private jet to go shopping or you know, that restaurant's exception because if you don't give it to him the landlord won't get his rent cheque every month.
 

Cherico

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bintananth

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They really want him to be king:
Whargrbl FTFA: "gravely mistaken interpretations of the Constitution"

Um, the Supreme Court's interpretation of the US Constitution is the authoritative interpretation and the law of the land. You may not like how they intrepreted it Mr. fancy pants Harvard Law Professor, but you're just part of the peanut gallery like the rest of us.

Would you like some cheese with your whine?
 

Cherico

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I'm not sure about that...

What happens when they pack the Supreme Court with idiots that then declare the bill of rights was a typo?

That's all folks? Pack it up. It's over?

The supreme court loses a whole fuck load of legitimacy, I mean I cant under state this and the red state basically start nullifying their edicts. When the republicans get power again and they will eventually they pack the supreme court in turn. Its a gross escalation and one that would take us just a little closer to civil war.

Which is why the smart money is that the dems try to pack the court which will backfire in time.
 

Bacle

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The problem here is, those professors aren't 'wrong', in that SCOTUS itself has no enforcement mechanism.

So a lot of people are going to look at what Andrew Jackson did, and decide to straight up ignore SCOTUS; we already have lower judges say 'Bruen was mistakenly decided' in lower court rulings.

Face it, all that matters now to most judges is progressive ideology, and when SCOTUS rulings and those conflict, they are probably going to ignore SCOTUS more and more.

Andrew Jackson really fucked over multiple generations with his ignoring of the Supreme Court, and not just among the Cherokee he illegally displaced to Oklahoma on the Trail of Tears.
 

Batrix2070

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What a shitty justification, we will save the lives of more than 2,000 people over the next thirty years thanks to this legislation.

Fuck, after all, this is comedy and not justification. No one will actually notice it, but the negative effects will.

This cannot be called anything other than debilism and malice.

On the other hand, I am absolutely sure that someone has no small interest in fucking up the entire gas stove market as part of eliminating competition.

From where? Well, in the Poland of the 90s, strongly crazy (in the bad sense of the word) such numbers like this happened repeatedly to turn out years later that someone had to earn the best at the expense of everyone else.
Of course, today such people are respected businessmen and not the usual thieving wackos that they are.
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A classic, as they say in our country.
What is allowed to the voivode (governor), not to you, stink (shit).
 

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