United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

[The Whispering Monk]

@King Arts @Carrot of Truth

Either nukes of the most bad ass ABM system they can conceive of and deploy wholesale.

Can you imagine the LOS the Japanese Islands could obtain with laser based systems near the peaks of their mountains?

 

[Zachowon]

If Japan gets invovled we will

 

[DarthOne]

If Japan gets invovled we will

I am not so sure

 

[Zachowon]

I am not so sure

We are bound by treaty woth Japan.
And the fact Taiwan, Japan and South Korea are all essential for our eceonomy

 

[Bacle]

I am not so sure

For Japan, yeah, no way not to get involved; there is a treaty, along with the fact that there are a lot of US citizens in Japan at any given time.

As well, Japan is one of the few allies the US has that actually attempts to pull it's own weight as much as it can, instead of being 'free riders' like a lot of Europe.

Any attack on Japan results in US involvement, and that is something both parties will agree on.

 

[Captain X]

 

[ATP]

I figure if the US throws Taiwan under the bus then Japan will become a nuclear power shortly afterwards.

They,South Korea,Singapoore,and maybe Vietnam.

 

[Zyobot]

A shorty, but also another doozie:

 

[DarthOne]

A shorty, but also another doozie:

Call me when something is actually being done of significance about it.

 

[King Arts]

I am not so sure

No we have to protect Japan. For the waifus am I right @Zachowon

Oh and we also have economic interests there since Japan has a large economy that does trade with us a lot losing them would hurt.

But primarily the waifus and anime amirite

I almost feel sorry for China if they start shit with real Korea and Japan, those godless commies would get rekt. We have God and anime on our side we wouldn't lose.

Also Japan would be able to pull a decent amount of weight, aren't they like the 3rd strongest navy in the world even if they aren't allowed to have an official military?

 

[Terthna]

For Japan, yeah, no way not to get involved; there is a treaty, along with the fact that there are a lot of US citizens in Japan at any given time.

As well, Japan is one of the few allies the US has that actually attempts to pull it's own weight as much as it can, instead of being 'free riders' like a lot of Europe.

Any attack on Japan results in US involvement, and that is something both parties will agree on.

There were a lot of US citizens in Afghanistan too, but our government abandoned them regardless.

 

[Zachowon]

There were a lot of US citizens in Afghanistan too, but our government abandoned them regardless.

Nit to tje same degree as Korea, Taiwan or Japan.
The number of people in these three each alone is triple that of what we had in A-stan

 

[Pocky Balboa]

There were a lot of US citizens in Afghanistan too, but our government abandoned them regardless.

*comparing the number of US citizens in Japan to Afghanistan*

 

[Terthna]

*comparing the number of US citizens in Japan to Afghanistan*

You laugh now, but there was a time when abandoning even a single US citizen was unthinkable; and I'm pretty sure you would have reacted the same way if I had told you back then, that there was a possibility that the US government would be doing that many, many times over in Afghanistan.

 

[strunkenwhite]

There were a lot of US citizens in Afghanistan too, but our government abandoned them regardless.

Losing Afghanistan to Afghanistan is very different, politically, than doing nothing while Japan (or, formerly, Afghanistan!) is attacked by another nation.

 

[Bacle]

You laugh now, but there was a time when abandoning even a single US citizen was unthinkable; and I'm pretty sure you would have reacted the same way if I had told you back then, that there was a possibility that the US government would be doing that many, many times over in Afghanistan.

A-stan is a much, much different situation than the US has in Japan.

Unlike A-stan, Japan has a fully functional government, domestic markets for things other than opium or weapons, and has one of the most modern military's in the world as well as cultural connections to the US much, much deeper than A-stan ever did.

I understand doubting the resolve of the US to competently carry out military evac's or operations in general, after A-stan, however defense of Japan is a completely and utterly different situation that means 'just pulling an A-stan' is not an option.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

The fact that this conversation is being had is enough for Japan to probably build a nuclear arsenal. Its better to have it and be secure rather than entrusting the US to maybe handle their national defense.

 

[Pocky Balboa]

You laugh now, but there was a time when abandoning even a single US citizen was unthinkable; and I'm pretty sure you would have reacted the same way if I had told you back then, that there was a possibility that the US government would be doing that many, many times over in Afghanistan.

You'd be wrong because back then I wouldn't have been surprised another neocon project in a country with little to no ties and not enough Americans whose abandonment would be a PR nightmare. And I never believed in that malrakey that there was a time thst abandoning a single American was unthinkable. The treatment of Vietnam vets was enough to convince a naturalized citizen like me that it was never true, that it was only a lip service thing, a PR thing. And there are plenty of US citizens in Japan that would make pulling an Afghanistan on them a PR nightmare.

 

[mrttao]

You'd be wrong because back then I wouldn't have been surprised another neocon project in a country with little to no ties and not enough Americans whose abandonment would be a PR nightmare. And I never believed in that malrakey that there was a time thst abandoning a single American was unthinkable. The treatment of Vietnam vets was enough to convince a naturalized citizen like me that it was never true, that it was only a lip service thing, a PR thing. And there are plenty of US citizens in Japan that would make pulling an Afghanistan on them a PR nightmare.

Mostly good points
but... you know they could just not report it on MSM and then memory hole it. like they do everything else.
PR nightmare solved

 

[Pocky Balboa]

Mostly good points
but... you know they could just not report it on MSM and then memory hole it. like they do everything else.
PR nightmare solved

LOL, they can try, but don't forget the Japanese government also have programs like the JET Programme. The JET Programme gets newly graduated youth of English-language countries to teach in Japan and that has a lot of people joining it annually. There ain't no burying Afghanistsn-style shit when you end up fucking over thousands citizens of your allies and non-allied countries along with your own.