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United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread
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49ersfootball
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Waiting for the next foreign policy crisis to explode: Poland & Ukraine both are nervous!
Why? smart people in Poland always knew,that USA would either sold us to Russia/Republicans/ or gave us for free/Democrats/ .Bided did what any other democrats would do in his shoes.
But - it is not 1990,we just need to become China vassal instead of USA to survive.Pity,i prefered USA.
Planes stranded at Mazar-i-Sharif airport waiting to leave
A US lawmaker accuses the Taliban of not letting several planes of Afghans and Americans leave.www.bbc.com
The Taliban have hostages.
Clown world Carter with genuine clown hostages.
Seriously, why are NGOs like this?
Get their people into an obviously stupid situation against the advice of everyone sane, and when the inevitable happens, expect the government to bail them out of it.
What's more ridiculous in this situation than usual, this time they are handing that rotten egg to an administration they like.
49ersfootball
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Let's not forget about Latin America going full Chavismo.
Robovski
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I was referring to the NGO employees.
almostinsane
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More blood equals more virtue.
Of course, they forget that true martyrs are tough sons of bitches that knew what they were getting into. When Christians were fed to lions, they were stoic and died professing what they believe in.
Earned admiration from a martial society.
NGOs pawns screech, "Noo!!!! This is inhumane!!!!"
And they earn contempt from everyone watching.
Arch Dornan
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America is back to Jimmy Carter's Iranian hostage crisis.
Arch Dornan
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Wait and see if the winner can huff and puff like Trump did Kim Jong Un folded and had talks.
Airedale260
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No. Carter and Co actually did a ton of work on getting them freed, and EVERYBODY was pissed at the Iranians: The Soviets didn’t like them, the Chinese didn’t like them, the rest of the Middle East didn’t like them, Western Europe didn’t like them, etc.
The hostages in Iran were actual diplomats; the same situation doesn’t apply here. And unless whoever is president in 2025 is actually willing to throw down in Afghanistan, we can’t really force them to hand over every American in country.
If we get Trump again, or someone willing to listen to him, we would basically tell them either release them or face a quick destruction, and threaten Pakistan as well
Airedale260
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So there are a couple big problems with that...
1) The Taliban could just go "Fuck you" and immediately kill every hostage they have. Which ends the hostage crisis, sure, but in a way that would immediately backfire and make Biden look like a genius. Rule #1 in hostage negotiations is you don't do anything that puts the hostages at further risk of harm.
2) Going to war with Afghanistan again because we fucked up is not going to be popular with the American public. They're pissed off at Biden, but launching a full-scale war four years after the evacuation fuckup is not going to be popular, especially when all it does is result in more dead American hostages. You know, the thing we really want to prevent?
3) Pakistan has nukes. Whether they'd slip one to al-Qaeda or the Taliban is unknown, but if we threaten them with annihilation I can think of plenty of elements in their country that would go "You know what, fuck America" and either sneak a nuke into a major American city or else hit a nearby target like Diego Garcia or even somewhere in India out of spite.
Threatening to do mean things isn't actually an effective negotiating tactic. Threatening outright war with countries that aren't overtly* hostile is also a really good way to get one's ass voted out of office in the next election if not impeached.
Trying the "tough guy" approach sounds nice and all, bur reality has a way of intruding on such things. I get you're still young and don't understand these things, but maybe consider that there's some very good reasons that no serious individual on the right is suggesting we actually do this, because the Law of Unintended Consequences is a very real and very unforgiving thing.
Arch Dornan
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They don't like him.