United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

[Bacle]

We will regain it. Because as someone who was alive during the Vietnam war. People around the world had just as big a hate boner for us back then.

Given our actions in Vietnam, I'm not surprised a lot of people hated the US for that; I mean shit, Vietnam caused a lot of American's to hate our own gov.

This is even more humiliating than Vietnam though, because of how incompetently it has been handled.

And now people can point to both Vietnam and A-stan to say 'Do not trust the US', if they don't just skip right to the many, many broken treaties we had with natives.

There is no reason anyone should trust the US gov to actually have their best interests in mind, not even the US populace.

 

[Zachowon]

Given our actions in Vietnam, I'm not surprised a lot of people hated the US for that; I mean shit, Vietnam caused a lot of American's to hate our own gov.

This is even more humiliating than Vietnam though, because of how incompetently it has been handled.

And now people can point to both Vietnam and A-stan to say 'Do not trust the US', if they don't just skip right to the many, many broken treaties we had with natives.

There is no reason anyone should trust the US gov to actually have their best interests in mind, not even the US populace.

And then when the US decides to helpnout and show we will support them.

 

[Bacle]

And then when the US decides to helpnout and show we will support them.

You assume they will reach out to the US for help, instead of someone else.

 

[Zachowon]

You assume they will reach out to the US for help, instead of someone else.

Who else can help? If the countries they call for help alsobsreuggle what's left?

 

[Bacle]

Who else can help? If the countries they call for help alsobsreuggle what's left?

France, Japan, England, India, Australia, Brazil, Italy, Germany, or maybe Canada.

We are not the only kid on the block with humanitarian or security abilities for people in dire straights.

We are entering a multipolar world where the US will be a Great Power among other Great Powers, not a superpower that can dictate to others damn near unilaterally.

 

[strunkenwhite]

Who else can help? If the countries they call for help alsobsreuggle what's left?

I think I understand your general meaning, but I cannot figure out your intended words. ('Other countries also fuck up when they try to help', roughly. Possibly "also struggle"?)

 

[Arlos]

I think I understand your general meaning, but I cannot figure out your intended words. ('Other countries also fuck up when they try to help', roughly. Possibly "also struggle"?)

Also struggle

 

[Sailor.X]

Given our actions in Vietnam, I'm not surprised a lot of people hated the US for that; I mean shit, Vietnam caused a lot of American's to hate our own gov.

This is even more humiliating than Vietnam though, because of how incompetently it has been handled.

And now people can point to both Vietnam and A-stan to say 'Do not trust the US', if they don't just skip right to the many, many broken treaties we had with natives.

There is no reason anyone should trust the US gov to actually have their best interests in mind, not even the US populace.

That same finger can be pointed right back at those same people who sing the praises of the CCP. Eventhough the CCP and not America wrecked the entire world economy with the Coof release. There is an old saying "Whenever you point a finger at somebody 4 are pointing back as you.

 

[Bacle]

That same finger can be pointed right back at those same people who sing the praises of the CCP. Eventhough the CCP and not America wrecked the entire world economy with the Coof release. There is an old saying "Whenever you point a finger at somebody 4 are pointing back as you.

Yes, that is absolutely true; Vietnam helped enable the rise of the Far-Left and the people who sold us out to the CCP.

Because Vietnam destroyed the myth America had built for ourselves about the righteousness, and ability to win any conflict, and the 'goodness' of the US gov. I know militarily, we did decently well, but the political battels were lost, so combat gains, and sacrifices, effectively meant nothing in the geopolitical conclusion of the conflict.

A lot of Americans realized that mythos only existed to mostly pat ourselves on the back about WW1 and WW2 in perpetuity, and enable the excesses and abuses of the military-industrial complex for decades.

Vietnam was when the dream and mythology of a 'righteous' America ended for many Americans and most of the world; we've just had a lot of people who do not want to admit that, because of what it means for all the sacrifices of our troops, and their own PR. This shit in A-stan is just confirming what a lot of the world already knew; the US is not a dependable ally or even protector of our own people.

Unlike a lot of the people on the Right, I never saw America as a 'shining city on a hill', I was never raised in that mythology, and I think that mythology is...more about national pride than about somber analysis of the US as just another country. We are an exceptional nation, but not as much as our mythos would like us to think.

We have been culturally a lot close to the oligarchy of Russia and the CCP for a while, our elites just hid it better, and now that the corruption is out in the open...well, it's causing some people to question if the US even deserves to win anymore.

Edit: Reminder Watergate happened in this time period as well, had a huge rule in damaging public trust in the US gov.

 

[DarthOne]

And here....we....go.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

and now that the corruption is out in the open...well, it's causing some people to question if the US even deserves to win anymore.

Then they are fools with questionable loyalty. The current situation demands a change in leadership, not defeat on the battlefield.

 

[Bacle]

Then they are fools with questionable loyalty. The current situation demands a change in leadership, not defeat on the battlefield.

That's the thing, a lot of people no longer have faith or trust in the electoral process, and thus they no longer feel they can have any real say in who the leadership is.

I think more and more people believe that in this clown world we now live in, the only true effective method of change is by humiliating the powers in DC, the American political establishment as a whole, and bringing America's international and domestic standing to all time lows by no longer abiding the lies our elites have fed us for years (even before the Wu Flu), can we break the elite's grip on our political system, and maybe regain the America that existed before the Wu Flu and stolen election.

The fools thinking that hoarding guns and ammo will actually be able to break the elite's grip are think it will be fighting like the last Revolution; they do not understand that this generation of civil warfare will be fought in media rooms, chatboards, meme generators, governor's offices, school classrooms, and SCOTUS, not on the field of battle trying to imitate George Washington.

A million Far-Right comedians and media personalities continuously dunking and humiliating the DC powers of the Biden regime over A-stan and anything else that actually is a meaningful fuck up, while constantly mocking the MSM at the same time, as well as audits of every state to check for election fraud, will be far more effective means of 'combat' than any gun, missile, or IED.

 

[strunkenwhite]

Vietnam helped enable the rise of the Far-Left

Do you mean in the sense that it helped break the back of the New Deal coalition, thus making the Democratic Party vulnerable to capture by other forces? If not, please clarify.

 

[Bacle]

Do you mean in the sense that it helped break the back of the New Deal coalition, thus making the Democratic Party vulnerable to capture by other forces? If not, please clarify.

That...isn't the worst way to put it; I think it's more complex than that, and goes beyond the Dem party, but how you put is not at all wrong.

 

[Airedale260]

Could just get some Disney Imagineers to make an animatronic. Maybe get Billy West to voice him. He's not that lively when he's talking anyway, the puppeteers would have a real puppet then.

Funny thing, Disney has their Imagineers come in to do recordings and stuff shortly (as in days to a few weeks) after a president takes office so they can add one for the Hall of Presidents in case said president dies in office.

So that’s not as far-fetched as one might think.

Two old white men? Yeah, that'll go over well with the psycho leftists they've kotowed to.

Depending on who the Republicans put up I honestly could see my way to voting for JBE. And I’m sure a lot of Americans feel the same. But that likely wouldn’t be until 2028 or 2032, and how old would he and Cooper be? Because short of dying Biden will almost certainly be the nominee in 2024, but his winning the general is EXTREMELY unlikely at this point.

Biden used to be a blue dog dem, he's now a far left puppet.

Biden is whatever the hell he thinks will get him the most votes.

Biden and his backers have destroyed the credibility of the US gov in ways Trump never could, and we'll be lucky to regain our standing this century.

The same was said about Carter, though. And given what Reagan did in the 1980s I would say it’s less luck and more picking the right guy to unfuck things.

We’ve weathered crises like and worse than this. We will get through this.

 

[Bassoe]

You'll either reorganize or crumble.

How?

No, seriously, what specific policies do we need to fix things and prevent the recurrence of the current status quo? Most of the 'America is Rome right before going from republic to empire' comparisons I've seen don't actually address any of the systematic problems, they just go 'we'll replace all our current stock of uselessly corrupt elected politicians with a strongman dictator and actually win our imperialistic wars with a change of military doctrine from attempting to prop up puppet regimes among the locals to simply killing them and stealing their natural resources'. The thing is, the current crop of parasites could survive just fine under such a system, if anything, they could take it as an advantage now that totalitarianism was closer to the overton window.

 

[Zachowon]

France, Japan, England, India, Australia, Brazil, Italy, Germany, or maybe Canada.

We are not the only kid on the block with humanitarian or security abilities for people in dire straights.

We are entering a multipolar world where the US will be a Great Power among other Great Powers, not a superpower that can dictate to others damn near unilaterally.

And who is to say they will help out? Outside of Japan, who would defend Taiwan and actually be a threat? What would happen is Japan gets its navy destroyed?
I'm saying, what kf those countries that come to help, also get destroyed.

You obviously are ignorant if you think any other country can get a whole division loaded up and into the battlefield within 48 hpurs.
nit small teams, a whlle fucking division..

a multipolar world is how we got WW2

I think I understand your general meaning, but I cannot figure out your intended words. ('Other countries also fuck up when they try to help', roughly. Possibly "also struggle"?)

Also struggle

 

[Bacle]

And who is to say they will help out? Outside of Japan, who would defend Taiwan and actually be a threat? What would happen is Japan gets its navy destroyed?
I'm saying, what kf those countries that come to help, also get destroyed.

You obviously are ignorant if you think any other country can get a whole division loaded up and into the battlefield within 48 hpurs.
nit small teams, a whlle fucking division..

a multipolar world is how we got WW2

See, that's the thing, I do not think we are truly serious about protecting Taiwan, not to the level that you believe we are.

You want to protect Taiwan from China in a real way that will actually make the US look serious, particularly with this A-stan shit now happening?

Get the US gov to openly station tac nukes on Taiwanese soil, with the understanding that China will not take Taiwan without losing the 3 Gorges Dam, Beijing, Xi's life, and all of military leadership; everything else is just feeding Lockmart and Raytheons's stock prices under diplo cover.

 

[Zachowon]

See, that's the thing, I do not think we are truly serious about protecting Taiwan, not to the level that you believe we are.

You want to protect Taiwan from China in a real way that will actually make the US look serious, particularly with this A-stan shit now happening?

Get the US gov to openly station tac nukes on Taiwanese soil, with the understanding that China will not take Taiwan without losing the 3 Gorges Dam, Beijing, Xi's life, and all of military leadership; everything else is just feeding Lockmart and Raytheons's stock prices under diplo cover.

Statiomg tqc nukes there is out right declaring war.

 

[Bacle]

Statiomg tqc nukes there is out right declaring war.

You guys are expecting a war with China anyway before 2030, right?

And you all are so gung-ho to prove how tough and dependable the US is, despite history showing us to be unreliable allies at best and habitual treaty/agreement breakers at worst, why give China anymore time to prepare?

Put the nukes on Taiwanese soil, and dare China to do something before they want to, or stop bleating about how important Taiwan is and how sure you are we will defend it.