United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

[Bacle]

dude the american populist movement was litterally born 6 years ago and has made enormous progress a lot more then I expected would happen. I thought it would take another decade at least for things to get as far as they have for us.

You mean as far as they were before the stolen election.

Because the populists aren't doing that well with the NPC masses, thanks to the glowies causing Jan 6th and now the raid on MAL.

It has been my experience that what the GOP and Right are truly good at is selling false hopes and cope to their base, and the populists don't seem to have changed that or had much success at being effective.

There are very likely more progressive minded people in the US these days than populists or conservatives, and just fantasizing about hanging Leftists from lampposts after some nebulous win...it's pure fucking cope.

Like, want to know how most of the Left, and parts of the middle, views the Right, particularly after Jan 6th, Roe being overturned, and now MAL raid?


This is what the Left views a lot of the Right as, and with the mass media feeding the NPCs continuously lies about the Right, they want to treat the GOP the same way the NCR treats the Legion.

Edit: Wrong video initially.

 

[Zachowon]

I mean, we are more like the NCR facing the legion.
I honestly would rather be the Enclave.
Do what ever it takes to make America.
America, but I will stick to wanting to eliminate China

 

[Bacle]

I mean, we are more like the NCR facing the legion.
I honestly would rather be the Enclave.
Do what ever it takes to make America.
America, but I will stick to wanting to eliminate China

We aren't the NCR, we're the fucking Mojave BoS after Helios One, and about as powerless and out-of-touch with reality on the ground as them, despite the amount of firearms the Right has.

And whether we think we are the NCR or not doesn't matter, because the masses the Dems have lied to for years views us as akin to the Legion and Trump as akin to Edward Sallow.

Also, glad to know you'd side with the people who want to purify the human race with the FEV and pretend the Pre-War world can return. The Enclave is actually a great metaphor for the current US gov, because it has about as much legitimacy over the US as the Enclave did, and is about as indifferent to the suffering of everyday folk as the Enclave was.

All while some of us would prefer to be Follower of the Apocalypse, because no one really gives a fuck about the plebs in the leadership of either party, so someone has to.

 

[mrttao]

What does biden even care about impeachment?

Its not like they are going to take away his kid's money or actually do anything to him.

He is almost dead and knows it, his party is very happy to compensate his relatives for him becoming the fall man for doing all their dirty work in the last few years of his life before going out.
He risks nothing.

 

[Zyobot]

I’d pity him if he weren’t a swindling, pedophiliac scumbag for most of his political career. But seeing as that’s precisely who he was, I won’t waste any grief on him when his light finally flickers out.

At that point, I’ll be more worried about freakin’ Kamala as president, at least assuming Biden either dies in office or resigns after an insuperable health scare. And make no mistake, one (or both) of those is definitely happening within the next couple of years.

 

[Bacle]

 

[StormEagle]

You mean as far as they were before the stolen election.

Because the populists aren't doing that well with the NPC masses, thanks to the glowies causing Jan 6th and now the raid on MAL.

It has been my experience that what the GOP and Right are truly good at is selling false hopes and cope to their base, and the populists don't seem to have changed that or had much success at being effective.

There are very likely more progressive minded people in the US these days than populists or conservatives, and just fantasizing about hanging Leftists from lampposts after some nebulous win...it's pure fucking cope.

Like, want to know how most of the Left, and parts of the middle, views the Right, particularly after Jan 6th, Roe being overturned, and now MAL raid?


This is what the Left views a lot of the Right as, and with the mass media feeding the NPCs continuously lies about the Right, they want to treat the GOP the same way the NCR treats the Legion.

Edit: Wrong video initially.

…This might not be the metaphor you want to go with, considering the fact that (for a good portion of the game) the NCR was repeatedly getting its teeth kicked in by the Legion, the Fiends, and basically pretty much any drugged up tribals with enough ferocity in the Mojave.

Their victory at Hoover was more of a draw/pyrrhic victory, and the only other wins they had in the Mojave at that point was Helios One and Bitter Springs.

The first being a victory over a pretty much dying portion of the brotherhood, and the other largely being a massacre of mostly unarmed women and children.

Unless the player character sides with them, the NCR pretty much takes nothing but Ls.

So I’m not really sure if that’s the parallel that you want to be drawing to make your point.

 

[mrttao]

…This might not be the metaphor you want to go with, considering the fact that (for a good portion of the game) the NCR was repeatedly getting its teeth kicked in by the Legion, the Fiends, and basically pretty much any drugged up tribals with enough ferocity in the Mojave.

The mindless drones genuinely believe that they are being oppressed by conservatives. And that all govt corruption comes from conservatives. All the news stations say so.
So this actually fits perfectly.

 

[Bacle]

…This might not be the metaphor you want to go with, considering the fact that (for a good portion of the game) the NCR was repeatedly getting its teeth kicked in by the Legion, the Fiends, and basically pretty much any drugged up tribals with enough ferocity in the Mojave.

Their victory at Hoover was more of a draw/pyrrhic victory, and the only other wins they had in the Mojave at that point was Helios One and Bitter Springs.

The first being a victory over a pretty much dying portion of the brotherhood, and the other largely being a massacre of mostly unarmed women and children.

Unless the player character sides with them, the NCR pretty much takes nothing but Ls.

So I’m not really sure if that’s the parallel that you want to be drawing to make your point.

The parallel is that the Left believe they are 'bringing safety and democracy to the Wasteland/protecting and promoting democracy in America', and particularly after Roe was overturned, seem to believe the GOP views women as property/slaves and want to revert the US to almost a medieval situation.

And they've had a few L's thanks to SCOTUS and DeSantis, but they still have plenty of power in their home areas.

I know this isn't how things really are, but I do know how the people who buy the MSM/Biden Admin lies tend to view a large part of the GOP and it's base.

Just because the enemy propaganda isn't the truth of things, does not mean it does not have power in the masses.

And the GOP has been so shit at PR and so steeped in internal propaganda that I do not think they truly get how bad the GOP can look to 'normies'. It's been my experience that neither the GOP leadership or base want to attempt new tactics, or realize that the Left know how to use conservative's principles against them, and just want to believe the old game and old rules still apply.

The Right seems to treat politics like football, while the Left treats politics like multi-generational warfare, and guess which strategy has proven more effective.

 

[Cherico]

yeah I belive this.

The parallel is that the Left believe they are 'bringing safety and democracy to the Wasteland/protecting and promoting democracy in America', and particularly after Roe was overturned, seem to believe the GOP views women as property/slaves and want to revert the US to almost a medieval situation.

And they've had a few L's thanks to SCOTUS and DeSantis, but they still have plenty of power in their home areas.

I know this isn't how things really are, but I do know how the people who buy the MSM/Biden Admin lies tend to view a large part of the GOP and it's base.

Just because the enemy propaganda isn't the truth of things, does not mean it does not have power in the masses.

And the GOP has been so shit at PR and so steeped in internal propaganda that I do not think they truly get how bad the GOP can look to 'normies'. It's been my experience that neither the GOP leadership or base want to attempt new tactics, or realize that the Left know how to use conservative's principles against them, and just want to believe the old game and old rules still apply.

The Right seems to treat politics like football, while the Left treats politics like multi-generational warfare, and guess which strategy has proven more effective.

We are starting to see the right treat this a whole lot more serious, but its the begining phases so painful adjustments all round.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

well the FBI really is asking for at the least a slashed budget in the near future

 

[mrttao]

well the FBI really is asking for at the least a slashed budget in the near future

pfft. a slashed budget? really?
no executions? no asset seizure? no life in prison?... no... just a slashed budget...
which will only affect the peons and not the actual decision makers in the agency. what does the current head of the FBI care about the budget of his successor?

 

[Terthna]

That's just a bonus from the FBI's perspective. They're trying to harass him into shutting up.

 

[Cherico]

That's just a bonus from the FBI's perspective. They're trying to harass him into shutting up.

Their putting all their chips on the democrats that might not be a wise idea.

 

[Terthna]

Their putting all their chips on the democrats that might not be a wise idea.

More on the establishment in general; which makes sense, seeing as they're all part of the same corrupt system. Any attempt at fixing it would necessitate removing them all from power, so of course they're going to act out of self-preservation to suppress resistance.

 

[DarthOne]

Man, some of you would have given up at Valley Forge…

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

You mean when nothing happens, just as nothing has continued to happen to the people who fucked us over with the Wu Flu, stolen election, and then A-stan.

Your 'we'll win in 80 years', 'any day now the plebs will rise up', 'they are in for when we get back into power' mantra's have been proven wrong time and time again.

I get you repeat these because it helps you feel more in control and wise, but the fact is you're just selling and huffing your own cope.

so...why are you involved in this conversation if you think it's all just cope? Why not go to a non-political thread or forum?

 

[JagerIV]

so...why are you involved in this conversation if you think it's all just cope? Why not go to a non-political thread or forum?

Your asking why people in the bitching on the internet thread are bitching on the internet? Were we organizing a super pack I'm unware of? All I'm doing is spending time after work discussing stuff that's interesting.

If you were actually doing something, your the one wasting time posting here. Since I would otherwise be watching Lord of the Rings, I'm not wasting time.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Your asking why people in the bitching on the internet thread are bitching on the internet? Were we organizing a super pack I'm unware of? All I'm doing is spending time after work discussing stuff that's interesting.

If you were actually doing something, your the one wasting time posting here. Since I would otherwise be watching Lord of the Rings, I'm not wasting time.

true, but Bacle is the one saying this is all of a waste of time and just cope not me. With my hours being cut at work, I'm just sort of having to pass time.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

pfft. a slashed budget? really?
no executions? no asset seizure? no life in prison?... no... just a slashed budget...
which will only affect the peons and not the actual decision makers in the agency. what does the current head of the FBI care about the budget of his successor?

Easiest to do in the short term. Plus it effects the entire agency not just the bad parts which means the good agents will be pissed at the bad ones which causes a internal conflict