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And yet Biden is like "Lets make it 1400 since they already got 600".
It is all a show to gain support from both sides Shadow
I keep hearing this but I thought "increase from 600 to 2000" was always the plan, from Trump and AOC alike. Perhaps people got confused because the proposal before the 600 plan was passed was for 2000, but after the 600 plan was passed the proposal changed to 1400?

I have heard people saying there was a plan for 600+2000 both here and from leftists, but I haven't seen what the basis of the claim is.
 
I keep hearing this but I thought "increase from 600 to 2000" was always the plan, from Trump and AOC alike. Perhaps people got confused because the proposal before the 600 plan was passed was for 2000, but after the 600 plan was passed the proposal changed to 1400?

I have heard people saying there was a plan for 600+2000 both here and from leftists, but I haven't seen what the basis of the claim is.
No that's a lie. They're gaslighting you. Biden camp was still saying $2000 after the $600 went out.

I will try to find a link


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On the eve of the pivotal January 5 Senate runoffs in Georgia, President-elect Joe Biden promised that if Democratic candidates Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff emerged victorious, "$2,000 checks will go out the door, restoring hope and decency and honor for so many people who are struggling right now.



This is AFTER the $600 was approved.

Looking at my bank, This is actually the same day I received my $600....Yet here he is promising $2000 to roll out the door.

It was a lie.
 
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Anyone post Biden’s gun control bullshit here yet? If not there’s a list of dumb as shit things but take a gander at this one first

Hold gun manufacturers accountable. In 2005, then-Senator Biden voted against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, but gun manufacturers successfully lobbied Congress to secure its passage. This law protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection.


Also he wants to limit the sale of guns to one per individual per month and make you register you firearms there’s a bunch more those 3 jumped out at me plus the standard assault weapons and magazines and buy back bullshit


Close the “hate crime loophole.” Biden will enact legislation prohibiting an individual “who has been convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime, or received an enhanced sentence for a misdemeanor because of hate or bias in its commission” from purchasing or possessing a firearm.


Incentivize state “extreme risk” laws. Extreme risk laws, also called “red flag” laws, enable family members or law enforcement officials to temporarily remove an individual’s access to firearms when that individual is in crisis and poses a danger to themselves or others. Biden will incentivize the adoption of these laws by giving states funds to implement them. And, he’ll direct the U.S. Department of Justice to issue best practices and offer technical assistance to states interested in enacting an extreme risk law.

These won’t be abused out the ass red flag laws are such an over reach man I keep re reading this bullshit page and my rage is ever increasing
 
Hold gun manufacturers accountable. In 2005, then-Senator Biden voted against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, but gun manufacturers successfully lobbied Congress to secure its passage. This law protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection.
Actually, that is a common law protection that litterally ever other industry has, but arms manufacturers needed to have a bill passed do to judicial activism. Its like making car manufacturers responsible for hit an runs.
 
Actually, that is a common law protection that litterally ever other industry has, but arms manufacturers needed to have a bill passed do to judicial activism. Its like making car manufacturers responsible for hit an runs.
Yeah the memes write themselves. The whole page is just wow you go how can he get worse then you read the next line and it just goes on and on.


Also this quote here blows my mind

Address the epidemic of suicides by firearms. Biden believes any plan to address the gun violence epidemic must address suicides by firearms, which account for 6 in 10 gun-related deaths but are often left out of the conversation. Many of the policies noted above – including safe storage requirements and extreme risk protection orders – will have a serious impact on efforts to reduce gun violence. But there’s so much more we need to do to support people experiencing suicidal ideation. In the months ahead, Biden will put forward a comprehensive plan to improve access to mental health services

Sure I would love better mental health services but aside from that you literally as a part of your argument to stop gun deaths admitted most gun deaths are in more than half the cases self inflicted which while horrible and I’m sad for them isn’t an argument against guns it’s an argument for better mental health if a sucidal person doesn’t have a gun he has thousands of other methods.

Im just raving at the screen I hope none of this gets through but I bet a bunch will
 
No that's a lie. They're gaslighting you. Biden camp was still saying $2000 after the $600 went out.
I will try to find a link
This is AFTER the $600 was approved.
Looking at my bank, This is actually the same day I received my $600....Yet here he is promising $2000 to roll out the door.
It was a lie.
Right, so the text of this story seems to support the idea that it was muddled messaging that was ultimately referring to $2000 including the initial $600 whether or not that was explicitly said every single time.

I'm more than happy to agree that Democrats were (sometimes) misleading people to think that there would be a total of $2600 going out—that's plainly irrefutable by the fact that people ended up having that idea. What I'm disagreeing with is that Democrats unambiguously claimed to have a plan to give 600+2000=2600 and not 600+1400=2000. And I think the evidence you've presented backs my position up:
On top of the $600 direct payment that was approved by the coronavirus relief measure signed into law last month, a new $1,400 check would bring the total direct payment that many Americans have received in recent weeks to $2,000.

That is what would have been accomplished by the House-passed CASH Act, legislation that proposed replacing the $600 payments in the most recent relief law with $2,000 checks. The Republican-controlled Senate blocked an effort by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) to force a vote on the bill ahead of the Georgia runoffs. Both Warnock and Ossoff enthusiastically embraced the push for $2,000 direct payments.

But as Biden, Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, and others have continued to call for $2,000 checks in the wake of the Georgia contests without explicitly clarifying that the payments would actually be a $1,400 top-off, analysts have openly wondered what precisely Democrats are proposing.

"So, heretofore, '$2,000 checks' have meant 'increasing the size of the $600 check by $1,400," New York magazine's Eric Levitz tweeted last week, referring to the goal of the CASH Act. "When Dems talk about $2,000 checks now, is that what they mean? Or do they mean bringing the total up to $2,600?"

On Thursday, writer and freelance journalist David Mizner tweeted in response to news of Biden's $1,400 proposal that it "looks like Biden is breaking his promise of $2,000 checks."
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But in other comments following the Georgia races, Biden massaged his direct payment call to indicate that any new round of checks would be aimed at "finishing the job" started by the $600 payments.

"We need more direct relief flowing to families and small businesses, including finishing the job and getting people $2,000 in relief," Biden said in a speech last week announcing the latest members of his economic team. "$600 is simply not enough when you have to choose between paying rent or putting food on the table and keeping the lights on."

Soon-to-be Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) sent a similar message in a "Dear Colleague" letter earlier this week, writing, "Democrats wanted to do much more in the last bill and promised to do more, if given the opportunity, to increase direct payments to a total of $2,000—we will get that done."

Vanessa A. Bee, an editor at Current Affairs, tweeted sardonically Thursday that "I for one am sure the American public will be relieved when it realizes that when Biden said $2,000 checks would go out the door if the Dems won Georgia, he meant the difference between whatever the Trump administration happened to issue in January and $2,000."

Basically, back when there was seemingly a chance for Democrats and Trump to push Mitch McConnell from both sides is where the talk of $2,000 checks originated. And the attempts to do so did indeed occur, as you said, after the $600 bill had already been signed into law. Anyone who assumed, after the $600 checks were agreed on, that continued talk about $2,000 checks must obviously be talking about a total of $2,600 was, IMO, either not well informed of the prior situation or letting their optimism get the best of them.

And, y'know, maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention, but in any case I wasn't gaslighted: I was just going by the original 600–>2000 plan and figuring that was still the plan. Which, in my defense, is exactly what was happening.

Anyway, you've certainly adequately shown what the "basis" for people thinking that 2600 was going to be a thing is, which fulfills my original request. So thank you for that.
 
Right, so the text of this story seems to support the idea that it was muddled messaging that was ultimately referring to $2000 including the initial $600 whether or not that was explicitly said every single time.

I'm more than happy to agree that Democrats were (sometimes) misleading people to think that there would be a total of $2600 going out—that's plainly irrefutable by the fact that people ended up having that idea. What I'm disagreeing with is that Democrats unambiguously claimed to have a plan to give 600+2000=2600 and not 600+1400=2000. And I think the evidence you've presented backs my position up:

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Basically, back when there was seemingly a chance for Democrats and Trump to push Mitch McConnell from both sides is where the talk of $2,000 checks originated. And the attempts to do so did indeed occur, as you said, after the $600 bill had already been signed into law. Anyone who assumed, after the $600 checks were agreed on, that continued talk about $2,000 checks must obviously be talking about a total of $2,600 was, IMO, either not well informed of the prior situation or letting their optimism get the best of them.

And, y'know, maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention, but in any case I wasn't gaslighted: I was just going by the original 600–>2000 plan and figuring that was still the plan. Which, in my defense, is exactly what was happening.
Literally "Biden changed his claims after his lies helped win the race"

GTFO with that nonsense. Biden lied. Plain and simple.

He said $2000 checks would be rolling out if they won, on the day I got my check. yes that means $600 + $2000.

If you want to argue that Biden didn't mean it, then You have to concede that he lied to get those people votes in GA.
 
Literally "Biden changed his claims after his lies helped win the race"
GTFO with that nonsense. Biden lied. Plain and simple.
lolwut

So your position is that Biden changed his claim from 2000 to 2600 for like a week. A WEEK. And then changed it back?

Honestly I do blame the left for this. Thankfully I don't pay attention to Twitter
 
lolwut

So your position is that Biden changed his claim from 2000 to 2600 for like a week. A WEEK. And then changed it back?
My claim is that Biden was saying $2000 checks would go out.

On the day I got my $600 check.

That doesn't mean $600+$1400.

That means $2000 checks. Words have meanings.

He knew what he was doing. And it was his plan to help get the democrats in GA elected with his lie.
 
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My claim is that Biden was saying $2000 checks would go out.
On the day I got my $600 check.
That doesn't mean $600+$1400.
That means $2000 checks. Words have meanings.
He knew what he was doing. And it was his plan to help get the democrats in GA elected with his lie.
If you want to get him on lying about sending out stimulus, why not simply point out that "immediately" doesn't usually mean "after more than a month"? Probably two months according to recent reporting.
 
Why not both?

You can tell more than one lie at a time.
Sure but this accusation is on firmer ground. He was talking about upping 600 to 2000 for like two weeks and now suddenly when he says 2000 he means 600+2000? C'mon. Wouldn't you laugh at anyone who caught Trump in a similar "lie"? Better go with the irrefutable:

He didn't say "you'll get the money ASAP".
He didn't say "we're going to work on that immediately."
He said "that money that will go out the door immediately to help people who are in real trouble."

The best weapon is the unadulterated truth.
 
Sure but this accusation is on firmer ground. He was talking about upping 600 to 2000 for like two weeks and now suddenly when he says 2000 he means 600+2000? C'mon. Wouldn't you laugh at anyone who caught Trump in a similar "lie"? Better go with the irrefutable:

He didn't say "you'll get the money ASAP".
He didn't say "we're going to work on that immediately."
He said "that money that will go out the door immediately to help people who are in real trouble."

The best weapon is the unadulterated truth.
He said $2000 will go out the door immediately.

He didn't mean $2000, and he didn't mean immediately. These are two different lies.

He told these two lies the night before the Georgia election.

It's obvious what he was doing.
 
He said $2000 will go out the door immediately.

He didn't mean $2000, and he didn't mean immediately. These are two different lies.

He told these two lies the night before the Georgia election.

It's obvious what he was doing.
So going back again to the quotes, he said "because their election will put an end to the block in Washington of that $2,000 stimulus check"

What $2000 check was being blocked? What $2000 check in addition to the $600 check was being blocked?

Oh, well, I guess you can just rack that up as another lie.
 
The voters voted expecting 2000. They didn't get it so he lied.

They wanted 1400 not 2000. Next time they should demand their stimulus as a physical exchange before the vote.
 
Honestly everything that's happen is bad in general, but it's a necessary bad; Leftists becoming dissatisfied with Biden, like many Rightists did with Trump, is needed to further erode the power of our ruling regime.
Trump actually did things unlike Biden. Biden ahs made things worse, people disliked Trump because he said mean things on Twitter
 
@strunkenwhite

I was assuming that a reasonable reader would be following the news and be somewhat familiar with what I was referring to. The wording was intended to capture both King and Greene and strike the balance between what happened to each of them, in order avoid making a long post even longer.

I think you were also continually ignoring large parts of what I was saying to focus on one detail. First about Greene, and then when I clarified. I did misremember what McCarthy's statements were, but even after reviewing them I think your characterizing my use of censure as synonymous with scold relies upon your hyperfocus on McCarthy's statement and ignoring McConnell's.
Regardless, I don't have any special knowledge or information that isn't available to you as well. I think my broader argument holds up with or without Greene and certainly with only McConnell's statements on the matter.
 
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