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United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

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Wow.
Who knew Sanders would be more on our side then the Republicans
It's certainly interesting to see bernie growing a pair and trashing on his democrat buddies.

I mean, he has done that before, but he's been mostly friendly to them lately.

I guess now the election is over he doesn't feel the need to run cover for them.
 

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It's certainly interesting to see bernie growing a pair and trashing on his democrat buddies.

I mean, he has done that before, but he's been mostly friendly to them lately.

I guess now the election is over he doesn't feel the need to run cover for them.

Bernie growing a pair? Lol! He's a opportunistic little weasel now as he's always been.

Behold!:ROFLMAO:

 

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So, watching a documentary on WW2...I am getting very Man with mustache vibes from Biden/Kamala...
Which one? Hitler or Stalin? if Hitler,at least german workers would live in good conditions.If Stalin,everybody,including FBI and CIA,would be slaves waiting for next purge.
 

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It's certainly interesting to see bernie growing a pair and trashing on his democrat buddies.

I mean, he has done that before, but he's been mostly friendly to them lately.

I guess now the election is over he doesn't feel the need to run cover for them.
What Spartan said. Bernie relies on his "outsider" status to further his career, but his money never goes where his mouth is. He's kowtowed to the DNC every time its come to blows. He's basically a Democratic version of John McCain, just with a less illustrious career.

So, watching a documentary on WW2...I am getting very Man with mustache vibes from Biden/Kamala...
Er, how so? They come off like some of the scummier British Labour types to me.
 

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Which one? Hitler or Stalin? if Hitler,at least german workers would live in good conditions.If Stalin,everybody,including FBI and CIA,would be slaves waiting for next purge.
What Spartan said. Bernie relies on his "outsider" status to further his career, but his money never goes where his mouth is. He's kowtowed to the DNC every time its come to blows. He's basically a Democratic version of John McCain, just with a less illustrious career.


Er, how so? They come off like some of the scummier British Labour types to me.
Seems very similar to 1930s Germany
 

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So, watching a documentary on WW2...I am getting very Man with mustache vibes from Biden/Kamala...
I've been saying this for a while. For all the times Trump was accused of being a fascist, I never saw any good examples of him acting like one, while I can definitely point to examples from Biden and Harris. I also immediately made a connection between what happened at the Capitol on January 6th with the Riechstag fire, and was fully expecting the kind of stuff that happened to actually happen. And now Biden seems to be working on making the military loyal to his party alone, with anyone expressing more conservative views getting labeled as "extremist" and booted out, possibly even prosecuted.
 

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I've been saying this for a while. For all the times Trump was accused of being a fascist, I never saw any good examples of him acting like one, while I can definitely point to examples from Biden and Harris. I also immediately made a connection between what happened at the Capitol on January 6th with the Riechstag fire, and was fully expecting the kind of stuff that happened to actually happen. And now Biden seems to be working on making the military loyal to his party alone, with anyone expressing more conservative views getting labeled as "extremist" and booted out, possibly even prosecuted.
Again. That won't happen woth the military.
We have strict rules in place to prevent that from happening, and from what I gather. The SECDEF is not liked by the people I work with at least
 

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Again. That won't happen woth the military.
We have strict rules in place to prevent that from happening, and from what I gather. The SECDEF is not liked by the people I work with at least
Rules only work when everyone actually follows them. Germany had rules they were supposed to abide by thanks to the Treaty of Versailles that were fully intended to make it impossible for Germany to become a military threat again, yet Germany did become a threat again because they just stopped following those rules once the Nazis started to take over. So just having rules in place is entirely meaningless, as a bad actor will just ignore them, and take advantage of the fact you are binding yourself by those rules. For example, you and others around you may not like the SECDEF, but they are at the top of you in the chain of command, under the President, who people may not like either, but the question is, why are you or anyone else going to do about it when these people in the chain of command over you start breaking these rules to railroad people and make examples of them? And don't tell me it can never happen, because under much dumber conditions, I saw the Air Force break its own rules to drum out their best female drill instructor over her posing nude in Playboy or some other such skin-mag, and that was just over being embarrassed basically. This is going to be about setting things up to take over Nazi-style, as you seem to recognize yourself from being reminded of 1930s Germany. Do you or anyone else have any kind of plan in place for if these rules start being broken, or more likely, changed in such a way to "justify" purges and the like? Is there a fallback position to even more overt things being done? While I know there are plenty who would never follow orders to hunt down groups of Americans the government might label as terrorists using the laws signed in by Obama, I also have no doubt that there are others who would, and the terrorist label would be the only justification they would need.
 

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Rules only work when everyone actually follows them. Germany had rules they were supposed to abide by thanks to the Treaty of Versailles that were fully intended to make it impossible for Germany to become a military threat again, yet Germany did become a threat again because they just stopped following those rules once the Nazis started to take over. So just having rules in place is entirely meaningless, as a bad actor will just ignore them, and take advantage of the fact you are binding yourself by those rules. For example, you and others around you may not like the SECDEF, but they are at the top of you in the chain of command, under the President, who people may not like either, but the question is, why are you or anyone else going to do about it when these people in the chain of command over you start breaking these rules to railroad people and make examples of them? And don't tell me it can never happen, because under much dumber conditions, I saw the Air Force break its own rules to drum out their best female drill instructor over her posing nude in Playboy or some other such skin-mag, and that was just over being embarrassed basically. This is going to be about setting things up to take over Nazi-style, as you seem to recognize yourself from being reminded of 1930s Germany. Do you or anyone else have any kind of plan in place for if these rules start being broken, or more likely, changed in such a way to "justify" purges and the like? Is there a fallback position to even more overt things being done? While I know there are plenty who would never follow orders to hunt down groups of Americans the government might label as terrorists using the laws signed in by Obama, I also have no doubt that there are others who would, and the terrorist label would be the only justification they would need.
We go to IG, JAG, or deem an order immoral, unjest, or illegal.
 

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And what do you do when they turn around and either make up excuses for why it's totally moral, just, and/or legal, or just straight up tell you tough shit?
there are to many areas where it could fail for them to do such a thing. Not every IG agrees with it. Not every JAG agrees with them.
And theycan make excuses. I can still say no. They can not do anything to me without getting retaliation from within the mlitary
 

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One would hope so anyway. And while it's a pretty fine line to talk about taking up arms against one's own government, especially for anyone who's still wearing a uniform, I think people should at least consider what actions that might take if the shit hits the fan, and what the shit hitting the fan is actually going to look like. Like, where's the line in the sand going to be? (don't actually answer that) That kind of thing.
 
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