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United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread
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Megadeath
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Lol, the army actually disproportionately represents black people, and other races. The general population is approximately 61% white, whilst in the armed forces it's only 57%. That racial diversity is especially concentrated in the army, and particularly in the lower ranks. In other words, it's unevenly not white people doing the dying.
Now, I happen to think such racial diversity is a good thing and that military service represents a great way out of the unfortunate historic social situation many non white groups find themselves in, but saying that anyone is leaving the army as it is to get white people killed is just stupid.
Syzygy
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Acceptable losses in service of the greater good, I'm sure.
sillygoose
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Faulty stat. You have to factor in the average age of the population; on average white people are 10 years older than black people, so the population age cohorts are skewed. Since the bulk of the military is under 35 since the average white person is over 40 of course white people will be underrepresented in the military relative to their overall population.
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LindyAF
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Per Heritage as of 12 years ago Whites were overrepresented even among enlisted recruits, while blacks were also overrepresented, but hispanics, asians, and indians of both kinds were underrepresented.
Per the council of foreign relations, as of 2018, White men are overrepresented in every service branch except the Navy.
White men are also overrepresented in Special Forces, per the same article, as of 2013, 69% of the Armed Forces was White.
I'm not suggesting that there's any sort of deliberate plot to use the military to get White people killed. Just that the biden administration needs at least a half-way competent military for any middle eastern adventures or sending military advisors or whatever the polite term for that is now, and they aren't going to do something that immediately destroys that.
Eh, meaningfully purging the military is going after some 10-20 people. If they flex that they can go after anyone they want, most of the rest will see the writing on the wall. Rember after all that the purge to get the SA in line was about a 100 people out of some 3 million. Your talking about a purge of less than 0.01%.
And well, as others say, they dont really need white people. They probably figure they're superior enough that even if their choices make the military a bit weaker, it wouldnt matter.
Same kind of thinking that caused so many problems in vietnam: we figured we were so superior we could afford to be stupid.
And well, as others say, they dont really need white people. They probably figure they're superior enough that even if their choices make the military a bit weaker, it wouldnt matter.
Same kind of thinking that caused so many problems in vietnam: we figured we were so superior we could afford to be stupid.
LindyAF
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SA purge was of the leadership. The who matters a lot. 10 O-7s would be a much bigger deal than 20 enlisted guys who got a bit stupid. But by meaningful purge I mean something that significantly changes the makeup of the armed forces or something that significantly disrupts their command structure.
I think they think like that in the long run- they're happy to encourage trends that in the long run will degrade the military, along with the rest of our country. But I don't think they'd just immediately break it.
LindyAF
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Possibly. I'm typically on the bearish side in terms of to what extent I think things will change in the immediate future. But I think their aversion to delayed gratification plays into what I'm arguing here. Far better, from their perspective, to make a show of denouncing "White Supremacy"(tm) and "Right Wing Extremism"(tm) in the military, hire a few extra people to make power points about what must be done to combat this threat, and collect progressive praise, rather than actually fuck up the military and get the neocons and the military industrial complex working against them.
That said, diversity is going to erode the competence of the class that determines how far they can safely go. But I don't think it's eroded enough yet.
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Why do you keep assuming that black people will continue to vote your way forever?
The black vote has been in democrat hands for generations now and they have watched their cities crumble they have watched their schools get worse they have watched their quality of life get worse, crime get worse and watched as the black family unit was ripped apart.
Results talk and bullshit walks and the democratic party has been walking pretty fast in the inner city for a very long time.
Airedale260
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So it seems Biden and Co have gotten a bit...creative...in expanding the administrative state: It’s completely turned the mission of a little known office within the OMB, the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (which is tasked with weighing the costs of a proposed regulation and was established under Carter) into “considering costs and benefits that are impossible to quantify” and starting from a point that any deregulation is inherently harmful.
So in other words, it’s to rubber-stamp any of the “brilliant” ideas Biden and Co get...which we know how that is going to turn out. Hell, even Obama knew that red tape has real costs...
At what point do we stop bickering over the election results and just focus on stopping Biden or at least slowing his roll?
So in other words, it’s to rubber-stamp any of the “brilliant” ideas Biden and Co get...which we know how that is going to turn out. Hell, even Obama knew that red tape has real costs...
At what point do we stop bickering over the election results and just focus on stopping Biden or at least slowing his roll?
Never.
If we don't secure our elections there is no future for the right, and none of this matters.
If we don't secure our elections, there will be no slowing Biden's "roll."
LindyAF
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They vote like 90/10 dem or worse dude, even after Trump let a bunch of them out of prison. I'm not going to countersignal if the occasional black wants to put America over (at least perceived) racial interests, but don't be holding your breath for that, "Party of Lincoln!" and DR3 notwithstanding.
It's been what, less than three weeks since inauguration? And this thread was discussing Biden's actions, not his legitimacy.
Not to mention, if it was possible, bogging Biden down in inquiries into the election, like they did to Trump with the Russia stuff would help with actually slowing his roll. But take that OMB issue. What do you suggest be done? IDK anything about this issue. Is there anyone specific who should be getting calls or mail or an elevator trip with some displeased people shouting at them?
We aren't going to overturn Biden or kick him out of the white house though, even if there was clear proof. Best we can do is learn from 2020, at this point.
I don't want to kick him from the Whitehouse. It's too late for that.
But we need to keep this fucked election fresh in our minds and work to make rules and laws to secure the elections for the future.
I'd we don't, future elections just simply don't matter.
At the very least, even if you pretend there was no fraud whatsoever, there is certainly the perception that there was among many, many people.
These people aren't going to vote in the future unless they can trust the ballot box. Why bother if you think it's fixed? We ABSOLUTELY MUST move to visibly secure our elections. We must restore trust in the ballot box, or the right is DEAD.
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Megadeath
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Uh... I didn't say anything about voting preferences. Did you not bother to read things, or is that a skill that's simply beyond you? I was responding to a post that claimed "They aren't going to meaningfully purge the military. They need white guys to do the dying in some desert shithole" so I was pointing out that the armed forces were less white than most of society. Now, other people have made relevant arguments about that, which are worth looking into, based on more specific statistical analysis. But what the fuck exactly do you think my post has to do with the confused idea "black people will continue to vote your way forever?"
I mean, black Americans don't vote completely in lock step, I wasn't just talking about "black people" and since I'm neither American, nor particularly closely aligned with the Democratic party in terms of politics or policies, they've never actually voted "my way".
Honestly, this feels like you saw two or three words from a post by someone you've pigeon holed in your head as part of "them" and responded with some vaguely related talking point. Very NPC behaviour there.
Airedale260
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Other than Biden personally, maybe direct the ire on the acting head of OMB or other senior staffers, or even call the office directly and hit them with a coordinated phone, email, or even snail mail campaign.
My point on the arguments still going on over the election is that, maybe instead of conducting a circular firing squad, how about we instead concentrate our ire on the idiot in the Oval Office and his various shenanigans, as opposed to arguing over whether someone is secretly a Democrat/I sufficiently loyal to Trump/a RINO/etc? Seems like a far more productive thing to bring this to the public’s attention and erode his support.