ISOT Back to the Past, aka Poland Saves the World from World War II.
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Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Then go for it,but remember,that dude would die on schedule in 1945,so whatever you are planning must be done before that.
@Batrix2070 ,i just thought about cruel scenario - 2023 poland is send to 1938,but in Draka universe - where Drakian empire with 10.000 modern tanks is waiting for WW2 to take over Europe and Asia.
Interesting,how we manage here - personally,i do not see big chances for Poland and world.Becouse Drakian have plot armour,and could win thanks to raping hamsters and impaling nuns....
Interesting,how we manage here - personally,i do not see big chances for Poland and world.Becouse Drakian have plot armour,and could win thanks to raping hamsters and impaling nuns....
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
The United States even under FDR wasn't all that hot about going to war with near peer opponents anyways. Most post-WW1 diplomacy was geared towards that in America after all even if some administrations were more interventionist then others. It's different using sanctions or show the flag presence or engaging in Banana style imperialist wars or even Lend Lease type of military aid and going to actual War when not directly attacked.
Stirling Draka universe.
Basically,americans who supported british in 18th century go to South Africa,and promised venegance.They somehow conqered entire Africa in 19th century/impossible - plagues ,England and other empires would never let it/ and part of China China.
Interesting how,when everybody want piece of China.During WW1 they take Turkey and part of Russia.
All as british subjects,which still use slavery.
As if England let them.
Then they win WW2 taking Europe and rest of Asia,in 1998 win WW3 taking rest of world,rest of americans was allowed to run to other systems,when they still fough them.
Most stupid things-
1.History do not changed much till 1939,as if taking over Africa by one state changed notching.
2.Drakians was slavers/90% of population/ ,yet they still continued to made invaentionas and prduce weapons which was 20-30 years ahead of their enemies.
For example,13.000 tanks with 120mm guns in 1941.And armour which need at least 90mm guns to destroy them.
At the same time,Japan during WW2 almost defeated USA and fought till 1946,and USA used the same stuff as in OTL.
And they keep rape and impale everybody,as if it was recipe for victory.Well,if it was recipe for victory,Turkey would win over the world long ago.
Here,small Omake:
30.01.1942.
President Duda sit without moving - drakian legiona just come near Warsaw from both soviet and german territory.,and last polish division just ceased to exist.
Last defenders waited for their fate,knowing that all they could hope is fight to the death.
Unfortunatelly,he was taken alive and must look when drakians impaled his family and raped his hamster.
Unhappy End.
Here,wiki :
Omake aside,i think that your Poland here,with knowledge from books about drakians,could actually win.
Here,another source - long dead story about Drakia which made it little logical/and,as result they lost WW2/
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Writer Bible is about weapons of various countries,including Poland/we surwiwed here/
dude made his homework,our army have P.49 bombers,P.61 fighters and 25tp tanks.
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Here,possible scenarios:
1.Draka plot armour - soviets and german attack in 1939,czech betray Poland for soviets,Poland fall in 6 months.Nothing change later with one exception - Draka get our technology ,so they take over entire world in 1960.No free humans running to another system.
2.Poland plot armour - germans frightened to do anything,and soviet must think about Drakians.
When Drakians attack Italy in 1940,polish drones,artillery and AT missiles destroy them.
They still attack soviets in 1942 and keep winning till polish army come in 1943 and defeat them,using sarin and tactical nukes.Drakians retreat to Africa,but polish missile destroy their capitol and cities where they made their own A weapons/we knew where thanks to books/
1945 - fall of Drakia,Poland rules.
3.both plot armours - Drakia and Poland eventually destroy themselves with A and H bombs about 1950.
4.Sadistic scenario just for @Batrix2070 - Poland ruled by Tusk is send to 1938 world with Drakia.
He quickly go there and offer our entire nation as slaves,with technology from 2024,for high position in Drakia society.
PIS protest peacifully and get arrested.
Tusk followers support him thinking that only catholics would be slaves.
When Drakia take over Europe in,let say,1943, they enslave everybody and gave Tusk high position - by impaling him.
Unhappy End.
The story is very good, but I see some shortcomings in it. in the first What did the Polish government do with the equipment of allied troops and the allied troops themselves stationed in the territory of the Republic of Poland. Because we must remember that we have at least one American armored brigade stationed here, elements of the American Armed Forces brigade, a Croatian and Romanian battalion, probably also a French and British one, one Italian frigate and, from what I remember, a squadron of American multi-role fighters and Italian multi-role fighters and a lot of American and German anti-aircraft defense . The story did not mention what we did with these soldiers and equipment. However, another thread is what we did with tourists and a large number of foreign nationals passing through Poland, who constitute quite a large group, and their problem would need to be solved because, for example, many Americans or Japanese would not want to return to their countries and I would most likely ask for political asylum and this issue was also not addressed and it is quite a big problem for ISOT
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
All in good time, first I want to outline the general situation a bit before I start pulling them out of the hat one by one.
Thanks ! i do not knew about italian frigate and croatian and romanian battalion.
Italians and romanians here could come home,but what with craotians ? Yugoslavia would hang them.
American troops - not only lgbt idiots,but everybody who is not WASP would choose Poland.
Take your time,RL is always more important - but please,deliver some short stories about Tusk trying/and failing/ to betray Poland for somebody - and finally ending in Moscov....
Maybe? Poland here is friendly to Romania,so they could afford to send back stuff for one battalion.
True,but ammo for 35mm is produced in Poland,but Gepards are not.If they belong to Romania,maybe better gave it to them as sign of good will.
The same goes for Italian frigate - we could not build parts for that.
There are no parts for most of the equipment and production must be resumed even for the T-72, which Poland lost production capacity at the turn of the 1990s and 2000s. So, just as the Romanian equipment could be given up because a dozen or so units of equipment are a residual amount, the modern FREMM-class frigate is priceless not only that its firepower, even with a limited amount of ammunition, could sink half of the Kriegsmarine, its anti-aircraft power provides a tight dome for at least a short time Tricity. and the second extremely important application of such a frigate is the amount of technology that can be used in reverse engineering, so that Poland could use it to create production capabilities of modern types of equipment for a modern radar system.
You have a point.Poland here probably let romanian battalion go with their stuff,but keep italian frigate even if Mussolini ask very nicely.
@Batrix2070 , i recently read Dogmat i Tiara/Dogma and Tiara-my translation/ by Paweł Lisicki,polish catholick writing about heresies in modern catholic Church.
According to him,there was conspiracy of many bishops and Cardinals which made Vaticanum II possible.
You could send him to Rome to warn pope in your story.Here,list of future heretics:
Giuseppe Roncelli,Giacomo Lercaro,Cardinal Eugene Tisserant,Ernst Vogt,Cardinal Bea,Stanisław Lyonet,Massimiliano Zerwick,Yves Cognac,Henri de Lubac,
Most were germans - Hans Kueng,Joahim Gnilka,Karl Rachner,and Gregory Baum/german jew who run to Canada/
Josef Ratzinger in 1938 was still normal,he become modernist later,just like our pope.
And future popes - especially Angelo Roncalli,who let modernist take Vaticanum II from within,and Giovanni Montini who continued his work.Both were arleady compromised.
Ratzinger and Karol Wojtyła were still normal young man,in case of Wojtyła problem vanish becouse he is not in new Poland.
Jesuits/Ernest Vogt,Stanisław Lyonet after 1942 become heretics,so there is short time for saving them.
But,there was normal bishops who try and fail to save Church - such like Nicola Canali,Alfredo Octaviani,Giuseppe Pizzardo.
According to him,there was conspiracy of many bishops and Cardinals which made Vaticanum II possible.
You could send him to Rome to warn pope in your story.Here,list of future heretics:
Giuseppe Roncelli,Giacomo Lercaro,Cardinal Eugene Tisserant,Ernst Vogt,Cardinal Bea,Stanisław Lyonet,Massimiliano Zerwick,Yves Cognac,Henri de Lubac,
Most were germans - Hans Kueng,Joahim Gnilka,Karl Rachner,and Gregory Baum/german jew who run to Canada/
Josef Ratzinger in 1938 was still normal,he become modernist later,just like our pope.
And future popes - especially Angelo Roncalli,who let modernist take Vaticanum II from within,and Giovanni Montini who continued his work.Both were arleady compromised.
Ratzinger and Karol Wojtyła were still normal young man,in case of Wojtyła problem vanish becouse he is not in new Poland.
Jesuits/Ernest Vogt,Stanisław Lyonet after 1942 become heretics,so there is short time for saving them.
But,there was normal bishops who try and fail to save Church - such like Nicola Canali,Alfredo Octaviani,Giuseppe Pizzardo.
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@Batrix2070 , i found genuine good german for you.Friedrich Reck-Mallewczen,dude who become catholic after Hitler take power,and in his hidden diaries described german state as "concubinate of prussian oligarchs and factory owners" and Hitler as "vegan Tamerlan or 'Machiavelli for servants"
You could use him for your Poland !
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You could use him for your Poland !
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