Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

Zachowon

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And how many of your disposable pawns have been sacrificed in suicidal counterattacks during this battle, just to prolong the battle for a few days and keep the internet supporters happy?
I mean, no where near as many.
Khrakiv offensive pushed them back far as fuck as did the Kherson which helped the get the city itself back.
The sunner offsive was a slow one but that's what happens when you get slow rolled the stuff needed to make said counter offensives
 

Marduk

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No Ukrainian sacrifice is too big to keep Zach happy.
And how many of your disposable pawns have been sacrificed in suicidal counterattacks during this battle, just to prolong the battle for a few days and keep the internet supporters happy?
What is this Moscow Hannah act?
I know that Ukrainians dying by being tortured to death in FSB run prisons would be more convenient to Russia than dying in battle against it (and even more convenient if they would be dying on a battlefield somewhere in Latvia, Poland, Kazakhstan, or elsewhere as condition of being released from that prison few years later) but everyone knows that, why are you trying to imply that would be better for them?
 
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PsihoKekec

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What is this Moscow Hannah act?
I know that Ukrainians dying by being tortured to death in FSB run prisons would be more convenient to Russia than dying in battle against it (and even more convenient if they would be dying on a battlefield somewhere in Latvia, Poland, Kazakhstan, or elsewhere as condition of being released from that prison few years later) but everyone knows that, why are you trying to imply that would be better for them?

That's the best you got? I expected more from our king of gaslighting.
 

Husky_Khan

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The replies are high quality examples of the Twitter level military analysis we all value and treasure.



Lotta... "freethinking" going on here...

I guess I'll post examples.

This person is apparently a media, police and legal analyst for actual media publications. He doesn't know why there are no reporters covering this War.



This person is a veteran apparently. He too is very confused at what magical weapon could've done this.



Another combat veteran.



Crime Scene Specialist... He Knows what he is talking about. Most staged photo he's ever seen.



And so on... anyways... the photo was released by the Russians but good dialogue regardless.
 
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AnimalNoodles

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I mean, no where near as many.
Khrakiv offensive pushed them back far as fuck as did the Kherson which helped the get the city itself back.
The sunner offsive was a slow one but that's what happens when you get slow rolled the stuff needed to make said counter offensives

Thats what happens when you launch an attack into an area that's actually fully manned. And the summer offensive wasnt a slow one, it was a comprehensive and major defeat.
 

Buba

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The lack of blood and body parts is indeed strange. My thoughts went to deaths caused by overpressure - or summpin' like dat.
 

Husky_Khan

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The lack of blood and body parts is indeed strange. My thoughts went to deaths caused by overpressure - or summpin' like dat.

It was one of those Tungsten Warheads so it shoots out 200,000 little Tungsten BB sized pellets across a wide area when it catches folks in the open and puts little holes in them.


It doesn't leave a giant crater sadly.

 

Zachowon

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First Abrams Lost in the War in Ukraine. Red Effect Summarized the relevant media released by the Russians regarding it in a short video.



Also in the likely Avdiivka Area, a Swedish supplied Archer Self Propelled Gun was Struck by a Lancet Drone, one of the first documneted losses of that type of weapon platform.



These losses coincide with further Russian Advances beyond the Avdiivka Area.



First documented loss of a NASAMs Surface to Air Missile Launcher. It was reportedly eliminated by a Tornado-G MLRS strike some fifty or more kilometers behind the frontlines in Zaporizhzhia. Ukraine is reported to have anywhere between twenty and fifty of these individual launchers in service.



Perun interviewed Professor Justin Bronk of RUSI to discuss the changes in the Air War in Ukraine from 2022 to 2023. Some of the things discussed was the use of KITs to transform Russian Dumb Bombs into "more" accurate glide bombs and its initial then diminishing effect due to the expansion of the effective range of Ukrainian Air Defense to the point the Russians were launching glide bombs from fifty kilometers away instead of twenty initially. Related to that they discussed Patriot "Ambush" tactics and that if the Russians did shoot down two of their own A-50s that's probably far worse then the Ukrainians managing to do so as well as why the A-10 shouldn't be sent to Ukraine among other topics.


I think that Abrams would technically be repairable but would be depot and more level.
Abandoned by the looks of it.
 

paulobrito

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As I said before, any tank/all tank class/variants in use in the world are vulnerable to arty, modern ATGMs, top attack weapons of all kinds, etc.
So, no surprise.
In a war that has a massive saturation of detection systems, as soon as the Abrams is deployed, is detected, attacked, and destroyed.
Like the Leo 2 and Chall 2 before.
And the same happened to all variants of Russian/Soviet tanks.
Is not a surprise, nor a mystery. Is just war. A high-intensity war with modern weapons from both sides.

This is not the Iraq War, going against a very incompetent adversary with outdated weapons.
 

ATP

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As I said before, any tank/all tank class/variants in use in the world are vulnerable to arty, modern ATGMs, top attack weapons of all kinds, etc.
So, no surprise.
In a war that has a massive saturation of detection systems, as soon as the Abrams is deployed, is detected, attacked, and destroyed.
Like the Leo 2 and Chall 2 before.
And the same happened to all variants of Russian/Soviet tanks.
Is not a surprise, nor a mystery. Is just war. A high-intensity war with modern weapons from both sides.

This is not the Iraq War, going against a very incompetent adversary with outdated weapons.
Only partially true.You would not destroy Abrams with Bradley gun,and could do that with T.90.
And,even destroyed Abrams do not toss it turret into outer space.
On totally unrelated thing - i remember some your story on other forum/forget which/ when you wanked Portugal.
Could you show it here,too? i would wanked Portugal here,too,if i knew how to write well enough.
 

paulobrito

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Sure you can. If you are lucky with the first shots and destroy the sensors, after that you are going against a mostly blind adversary. Yes, you can't turret launch an Abrams, but you can kill it.
You are probably talking about one of my older stories on alternatehistory.com.
 

Husky_Khan

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Attention Pro-Russian VATNIKS HERE!!!!1

Looks like Ukraine is battering Uranus and there's nothing you can do about it. :eek: 😬:sneaky:



For some context, it appears that after the Dam burst and flooded, Uranus was embedded deep with the Seamen pressed into service on the Dnipro front with the Russian Naval Infantry brigades but last Summer the Seamen reserves dried up, leaving Uranus having to stretch out to cover a waterlogged, swampy, bug filled frontage. Over the previous weeks, the Ukrainians started with probing attacks and other pinpricks targeting Uranus but gradually ramped up the pressure with deeper offensive thrusts that battered Uranus week after week, often with explosive results. Long story short, Uranus has been reeling and seeking relief, but with the seamen having been transferred to the Zaporizhzhia front, the amount of volunteers willing to serve in Uranus, all battered and bloodied after weeks of being straining under powerful Ukrainian pressure, has unsurprisingly dried up.

As a result Uranus is suffering from increasing gaps and wastage. Recently Defense Minister Shoigu vowed that the area Uranus was serving in had been wiped clean of Ukrainian attackers but with the recent explosive strikes in the theater of Uranus, that is clearly not the case and Uranus has been stretched even farther than every before, and it's Uranus that is suffering most because of it. Uranus has tried to mount its own offensives, only to run out of gas and as a result the Ukrainians have continually pounded Uranus into near submission.

Unless Uranus receives significant manpower relief, preferably from the Russian seamen like before, it's entirely possible Uranus will collapse under the increasing pressure and strain of deeper and more violent Ukrainian thrusts and pushes constantly battering them. It's unsure how Uranus, operating in this vacuum of authority due to increasing amounts of blockages up high, combined with unit cohesion being increasingly loose, will be able to continue resuming its normal operations or if the remnants of Uranus will just be flushed away like the broken Dam in their area.
 

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