Poe
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Basically everyone knows that Russias goal is to take all of Ukraine, maybe breaking up some small states to act as a buffer between them and NATO. It maybe considered an "open secret," but it isn't one they are even pretending is a secret. It's outright stated by people like Dugin, both today and in his Geopolitics book which is mandatory reading for the officer corp. You can be pedantic and pretend this isn't their goal but we all, including you, know it is.Russia's stated objectives have been set out since the beginning of the war, and they never included the conquest of 100% of Ukraine. Unless they explicitly change those objectives, we must use them as the yardstick of victory.
If I were a Ukrainian, my definition of victory would have been forcing the Russians to the table on my terms and minimising my losses.
"They'll take us seriously once we've taken Lviv."