Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

[strunkenwhite]

Soviet Union, sodomite Union.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

Nice conspiracy theory you have here.
What is Sweden, Germany, UK? You think it's USA making them be leftist, more leftist than USA itself, even though they don't want to and not local leftists, who generally hate USA for its "warmongering", "pushing capitalism" and "promoting global inequality"?

All of those places were considerable more conservative prior to ww2. It was after the war that american intelligence ensured more liberal regimes were installed.

Never forget that many of the members of the the so-called Frankfurt group worked for american intelligence and what we call "cultural marxism" was actively promoted in europe by American intelligence as a form of progressivism that actively subverted class struggle and did not threaten property.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Soviet Union, sodomite Union.

None of the USSR's former territory homosexuality is culturally accepted barring the Ukraine.

Societal attitudes toward homosexuality - Wikipedia

If you want to stretch it out, Czechia is the only one who comes up close to accepting it. But they are still going to joke about it.

 

[strunkenwhite]

None of the USSR's former territory homosexuality is culturally accepted barring the Ukraine.

The joke failed to land. The "sodomite Union" is the USA, in keeping with the comparison (of the USA to the USSR, hence its mention) that AnimalNoodles made.

 

[TheRejectionist]

The joke failed to land. The "sodomite Union" is the USA, in keeping with the comparison (of the USA to the USSR, hence its mention) that AnimalNoodles made.

Oh lad yeah I didn't remember that you boys also go or went as an Union.

 

[Zachowon]

None of the USSR's former territory homosexuality is culturally accepted barring the Ukraine.

Societal attitudes toward homosexuality - Wikipedia

If you want to stretch it out, Czechia is the only one who comes up close to accepting it. But they are still going to joke about it.

Consensual sodomy no.
Forced? Yes.
The entire discipline of the USSR and now Russian military did invovle a lot of forced sodomy

 

[ATP]

Our politicians support it, because one way or another we end up with Germanophiles in Rome. It is like they won the war.
Or better, they lost the war and "won" the "peace".

All for nothing.

Indeed.Germans are ruling EU now.

It's ironic: Germany lost the Second World War but they still established a hegemony over Europe.

When I see people defend the EU, saying shit like "oh, but it's from Brussels and it has a Parliament, blah blah blah", I think, "yeah, but Germany and (to a lesser extent) France have the biggest voices and influences. What they say basically goes, one way or another".

Yup.They learn to not fight others,but buy their politicians.
Like polish new premier.

Which is why I'm in favor of putting some fire under Germanys ass to rebuild its military. It has achieved all of its turn of the century aims and has conquered Europe, but has thus far been utilizing American troops and cash to do so.

And those troops would help Moscov destroy Poland.
No,thank you.

 

[Poe]

And those troops would help Moscov destroy Poland.
No,thank you.

1. Those troops are looking to be the only thing preventing Moscow from biting out a chunk of poland. Especially if my country decides to let Europe defend itself in the coming generation.
2. You repeat this in just about every page of every thread, so its "boy cried wolf" at this point.

 

[TheRejectionist]

1. Those troops are looking to be the only thing preventing Moscow from biting out a chunk of poland. Especially if my country decides to let Europe defend itself in the coming generation.

2. You repeat this in just about every page of every thread, so its "boy cried wolf" at this point.

And you sound like a Germanophile. Excessively so. Moreover, Germany's enemy are controlling it from the inside, there is no threat to Germany in the West or the East.

 

[Zachowon]

There is.
Russia has been using Germany to support it financially for decades due to Merkel

 

[ATP]

1. Those troops are looking to be the only thing preventing Moscow from biting out a chunk of poland. Especially if my country decides to let Europe defend itself in the coming generation.
2. You repeat this in just about every page of every thread, so its "boy cried wolf" at this point.

1.German fighting soviets in defence of Poland? THEY ARE ALLIES.Always were,always would be.At least as long as there are united Germany.Free Bavaria and Saxony armies could actually help.

2.That is reality.German idiots keep alling with Moscov,even if it MUST lead to soviets backstabbing them.Idiots forget,that for making deals with german tsars they need german tsar in Moscov,not KGB colonel.

 

[Poe]

And you sound like a Germanophile. Excessively so. Moreover, Germany's enemy are controlling it from the inside, there is no threat to Germany in the West or the East.

I never said there was a threat to Germany, I've stated multiple times now that Germany is basically in control of Europe already and is lucky enough that the US gets to foot the bill for defense of it. I want that to stop, and for Germany to foot the bill itself for its little European bureaucratic empire. I don't really care if Europeans don't like this, they can figure out the details themselves once it becomes a purely domestic European issue.

 

[TheRejectionist]

There is.

No, there are five countries separating Germany from Russia.

Russia has been using Germany to support it financially for decades due to Merkel

Merkel didn't do that, she was the first one to drag her feet for the Minsk accords.

 

[ATP]

I never said there was a threat to Germany, I've stated multiple times now that Germany is basically in control of Europe already and is lucky enough that the US gets to foot the bill for defense of it. I want that to stop, and for Germany to foot the bill itself for its little European bureaucratic empire. I don't really care if Europeans don't like this, they can figure out the details themselves once it becomes a purely domestic European issue.

Germans ARE soviet allies.How they could fight them?

 

[Poe]

Germans ARE soviet allies.How they could fight them?

Did you forget that Germans fought the actual soviets even though they were actually allies at the time? The time they actually worked together to split up Poland.

 

[strunkenwhite]

We barely made it to Berlin on time to stop the Soviets from taking Germany, fighting over Poland wasn't a realistic option at the time nor would I agree it was in our best interest. It was in Polands, and maybe Britains, best interest but the USA? I don't see how.

Barely made it and the Soviets still took a majority of the city, too.

... We DIDN'T make it to Berlin. It got divvied up the same way Germany itself was divvied up, but the city was deep in Soviet held territory.

1. Those troops are looking to be the only thing preventing Moscow from biting out a chunk of poland. Especially if my country decides to let Europe defend itself in the coming generation.
2. You repeat this in just about every page of every thread, so its "boy cried wolf" at this point.

1. Look, American tripwire forces are indeed an important part of NATO deterrence, but Poland has a very good military by now, and still ramping up. Arguably the best in Europe for a European land war, outside the fact that Ukraine and Russia are currently in wartime mode. Poland needs NATO but not in the same way that Latvia needs NATO.
2. Yes. It is known.

 

[Buba]

No, there are five countries separating Germany from Russia.

One. Because Kaliningrad Oblast.
Or do you count Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and ??? as a group between the main body of Russia and the Oder River?

 

[TheRejectionist]

One. Because Kaliningrad Oblast.
Or do you count Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and ??? as a group between the main body of Russia and the Oder River?

I was talking about the mainland not the land island that is former Konigsberg, which in any scenario will become a Baltic Stalingrad.
I counted Lithuania, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and Belarus. If we count Latvia and Estonia you got seven, eight if you want to be generous with Czechia, assuming they don't get politically Russophile again like their former partner in Bratislava in the foreseeable future.

 

[Jormungandr]

... We DIDN'T make it to Berlin. It got divvied up the same way Germany itself was divvied up, but the city was deep in Soviet held territory.

1. Look, American tripwire forces are indeed an important part of NATO deterrence, but Poland has a very good military by now, and still ramping up. Arguably the best in Europe for a European land war, outside the fact that Ukraine and Russia are currently in wartime mode. Poland needs NATO but not in the same way that Latvia needs NATO.
2. Yes. It is known.

I thought the Reds had about two-thirds of Berlin secured/fighting the Germans in the streets before the Allies finally broke through and pushed into the city?

 

[Husky_Khan]

I thought the Reds had about two-thirds of Berlin secured/fighting the Germans in the streets before the Allies finally broke through and pushed into the city?

Nah the Allies weren't close. Towards the final weeks of the War the Western Allies declined even making a push towards Berlin because the Reds would be getting most of East Germany anyways IIRC.

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