It's funny reading these threads because Agent 23 "ignores" me. He can post points I already addressed before he even thought them up.
Yeah, yeah, Putler/Evil Ivans are behind everything, even when Sloppy Joe can't lift it when he is abusing another underage girl, we know!It is quite more informative if you would add the context.
Patrick Lancaster
Independent (working for Russian state) Journalist
The very fact that people like him are made to be present there and are saying what they are saying has certain extra meaning in light of his... history and connections.
It means Russia is in fact taking the initiative to do some kind of psychological warfare stuff in favor of own interests there, if they are deploying mercenary propagandists specialized in addressing western audiences.
Russian state meddling in what it considers its sphere of influence, yeah, sure, i'm the conspiracy theorist here.Yeah, yeah, Putler/Evil Ivans are behind everything, even when Sloppy Joe can't lift it when he is abusing another underage girl, we know!
Yeah, ok, and if a Russian tells you water is a conductor you will probably throw a toaster in your bathtub to prove him wrong...He does work for Russian state owned media. If that doesn't make him a propagandist, i don't know how can someone be a propagandist at all.
Aren't you a bit old for Dis u but what am I?How convenient of you to bring up my track record, while not speaking a word about your own...
Yeah, well, we should shut them up and just stay on good terms with the Azeris.The fucking annoying diaspora is an asset that can be exploited, for annoying western countries.
Turkey is far from the paragon of a western state, but I will be more than happy to have it overstretch.I want it out of NATO and deep inside of Greece.Controlling Armenia in general can also help in cloak and dagger ops with the whole Russian idea of driving a wedge between between the West and Turkey with its military,
Compete is a strong word, they have a small fraction of what Russia has, but still, any port in a storm.economical and geographical value, as you said you want, and let's not forget that Azeri energy deals with Europe directly compete with Russian ambitions in that area.
So yeah, all in line with your track record.
Or, it can just wait, sit this one out and play all sides against each-other, e.g. a sensible solution.In light of all the oil/gas extraction and route politics deals Azerbaijan and Turkey are involved in, and also recent close relations between Russia and Iran, there's no way Russia can afford to not take part in this clusterfuck, the only question is where exactly will Russia stand in this clusterfuck.
Unfortunately the guy is talking about international politics and spicy stuff in them in particular, rather than making popular science videos for Russian state media.Yeah, ok, and if a Russian tells you water is a conductor you will probably throw a toaster in your bathtub to prove him wrong...
Sorry for stealing your schtick, but you can't deny it.Aren't you a bit old for Dis u but what am I?
Again your own private political preferences show, including Balkan rivalries, no reason for me to share yours.Yeah, well, we should shut them up and just stay on good terms with the Azeris.
Turkey is far from the paragon of a western state, but I will be more than happy to have it overstretch.I want it out of NATO and deep inside of Greece.
Compete is a strong word, they have a small fraction of what Russia has, but still, any port in a storm.
And as I said, I am fine with Turkey and its friends getting emboldened and the west not doing anything for a few years.
After they stick their heads in a beehive of military adventurism they will have to sell more energy to keep themselves afloat.
Playing all sides implies the very opposite of sitting this one out.Or, it can just wait, sit this one out and play all sides against each-other, e.g. a sensible solution.
He is reporting, not giving an opinion, you can always provide legit proof that what he is reporting is nonsense.Unfortunately the guy is talking about international politics and spicy stuff in them in particular, rather than making popular science videos for Russian state media.
Holy non-argument, batman.Sorry for stealing your schtick, but you can't deny it.
Same can be said about you and your Polish/Baltic political preference.Again your own private political preferences show, including Balkan rivalries, no reason for me to share yours.
Start off as neutral, then play them off for maximum profits.Playing all sides implies the very opposite of sitting this one out.
Reporting is not opinion free by any means (we both know what so many mainstream reporters do, no need to cut slack for Russia's ones), sod off with the word games, take your burden of proof and stick it into... your effort to "provide legit proof that what he is reporting makes sense."He is reporting, not giving an opinion, you can always provide legit proof that what he is reporting is nonsense.
So when are you leaving the dastardly NATO you hate so much?Holy non-argument, batman.
Same can be said about you and your Polish/Baltic political preference.
Pot meet kettle.
No one (perhaps outside some terminal useful idiots in western countries) is going to believe in Russia "starting off as neutral", there is no year zero bullshit in international politics.Start off as neutral, then play them off for maximum profits.
Victim politics 101, doesn't work so well outside of the first world problem zone though.As to annoying diasporas, well, here is a story from Bulgaria.
>Be Bulgarian nationalist.
>Sit in class when fatty Armenian girl that is one of those brown nose annoyances, proto-Purple haired *studies student, basically, decided to tell the whole class about muh Armenian genocide and the usual listen to the song of muh people.
>Enjoy class Chad get up and tell her."So what cha bitchin ta me about it, cunt."
Fine provide the "truth" from a NATO/USA paid reporter, then.Reporting is not opinion free by any means (we both know what so many mainstream reporters do, no need to cut slack for Russia's ones), sod off with the word games, take your burden of proof and stick it into... your effort to "provide legit proof that what he is reporting makes sense."
At this point I am in favor in staying in the so called defensive alliance just to spite you, lol.So when are you leaving the dastardly NATO you hate so much?
Yup, because Ree, Putler is a mustache twirling villain that just randomly decides to do stuff one day cause he could not get it up.No one (perhaps outside some terminal useful idiots in western countries) is going to believe in Russia "starting off as neutral", there is no year zero bullshit in international politics.
Sadly, it is spreading, but it must be stomped out completely.Victim politics 101, doesn't work so well outside of the first world problem zone though.
Yaay, anti-Russian chiwawa baltostani paid press.State media of Lithuania represent.Is Armenia turning to the West?
For centuries, Armenians have had a tight relationship with Russia. But those ties have come under strain over the past ...www.lrt.lt
An alliance we are in....When Russia stops scheming with Germans behind our backs and you stop hiding behind Russia and start fighting your battles with Turks and Greeks and so on yourself, lawl, nothing's fair in love and war, if you don't like your enemies having alliances, tough luck.
Hurr-durr.The "so called defensive alliance" was made to contain Moscow's imperial ambitions and we don't require of it anything beyond sticking to its traditional goal, it's you who want to sabotage it for the sake of Balkan historical drama and against its main purpose.
And him getting into this mess in the middle now would help him...how...Not randomly, maliciously and with some forms of perceived overt or covert self-interest.
To summarize.While both Turkey and Greece are NATO members...
Unlike other bureaucracies, it's the countries that are not in it that whine the hardest about its expansion
>getting into this mess
Implying Russia was not already in it since decades, as i said, aggressive amnesia is not considered the golden standard for foreign policy takes.
All sorts of serious publications consider this.
Russia’s Stake in the Nagorno-Karabakh War: Accident or Design?
Russia opted not to discourage the escalation of Nagorno-Karabakh smoldering conflict into a full-fledged war. There are strong signs that this...www.swp-berlin.orgPutin Is Turning Armenia Into a Russian Outpost
Moscow is losing regional influence—but it's shoring up its position in Yerevan.foreignpolicy.com
Choke on your own words. Also quite telling of how much you give a damn about what's relevant to the topic when Russian troops are officially, as peacekeepers, present on territory of both these countries, and one of them is in an alliance with Russia. But nope, don't mention Russia, totally nothing to do with the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, are you for real?
The only truth here is that if we back the Armenians we degrade our relations with Azerbaijan, and I for one do not see a real reason why we should do that.I will grant Marduk argument a pass because of the point I expressed earlier :
I have mentioned before, Erdogan is basically a village wiseguy, those people can often me better populist politicians than the powdered poodles with the pointless *studies degree and the long pedigrees, but ultimately they can also suffer from the huge fish in a small pond mindset.So far this indicates to be the case.
I don't think Turkey wants to threaten Iran unless given a good reason :
The Emerging Iranian-Turkish Energy Partnership: Strategic Implications - Our World
An energy partnership will let Iran leverage its energy resources and Turkey maintain its economic growth, which will also enhance European energy security.ourworld.unu.edu
Turkey is the kinda of bully that threatens those smaller than him such as : Syria, Greece, Cyprus, Iraq, Armenia. But never someone bigger or as big as them like Iran and Russia.
To that you can add the centuries-long animosity between Turks and Iranians/Persians and the millennia-long animosity between Shiites and Sunites.Baku is the one more likely just for the shared hatred of Iran by them and their allies Israel. Just like some nutcases want a greater Israel. But very few Iranian Azeris want that or advocate for unification with Iran...because to a degree Baku is more pervasive than Tehran.
If Iran was ran by anything other than an idiot theocracy I would be backing it, hard.Not to mention I had met many Azeris from Iran that identify themselves as Iranian first and Azeri second. Most separatism I have seen came from either from the obvious groups : Kurds and Balochis.
What are diplomats doing when trying to diffuse a conflict between 2 neighboring countries and trying to keep their country's local neighborhood stable, ZOMG the inhumanity...Opinion noted and into the trash it goes, did you have anything useful to add to the discussion or was it just you taking an opportunity to whine about me accusing saintly and innocent Russia who never does anything wrong of being involved in a conflict even though it has troops in the countries involved and everyone serious discusses how involved it is?
Russia protests to Armenia as tensions rise over disputed Caucasus region
Russia summoned the Armenian ambassador on Friday to present a protest about what it deemed "unfriendly steps" as tension in the South Caucasus surged over the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh.www.reuters.comWhat the hell are Russian diplomats doing interjecting in the conflict in which they are totally not involved in and only Russia obsessed Polish conspiracy theorists think they have anything to do with?Russia accuses Azerbaijan of violating ceasefire agreement with Armenia
Russia on Saturday accused Azerbaijan of violating the Moscow-brokered ceasefire that ended the 2020 war with Armenia, by letting its troops cross over the demarcation line.www.france24.com
It is called a "news cycle" and everyone will forget in a few days. Especially now, when we all have a lot more stuff to worry about and there is no massive, government sponsored push to fan the flames of these news it will die down.@Husky_Khan What happened in NK has apparently exploded on the news even here in Italy, a country so far away from the Caucasus and a low Armenian diaspora and Azerbaijani expat community.
It is not impossible, I think the dsme scenario happened to some american peace keepers in Afrika, or some idiot Azeri fot overexcited.If I could share images there tons of news about how the Armenians are leaving already amid fearing the obvious considering it was reported that Azerbaijani troops couldn't even respect corpses of dead civilians.
Matter of fact there is speculation that the reason why a Russian convoy got shot at a few days ago was because they arrived at the site of a massacre and they witnessed what was happening and my speculation is the Azerbaijani soldiers and/or those who commanded understood that if word for out it was better risking killing Russian soldiers than a PR blunder at best.
Russian state meddling in what it considers its sphere of influence, yeah, sure, i'm the conspiracy theorist here.
Poland and Britain especially suffer from the historic verison of Ree, Muh Russia Syndrome.As conspiracy ideas go, it's quite a vintage one.
And it's not as if the West doesn't "meddle" all over the world. But I suppose to you that's different.
Off topic but the leader of the mainstream progressive liberal and "main" opposition party in Italy is a Swiss-born American of Ukranian-Lithuanian ancestry.Like maybe we will find out that some Italian deputy has an onlyfans.
I didn't claim the West is strictly playing the role of "not touching anything" isolationists anywhere. In fact i said many times that it would be utterly retarded for it to do that, and even Russia is not retarded enough to do it, and yet some people still want to pry the hippy movement's foreign policy sunglasses out of its long rotten face and tell me that's something the West does uniquely, often with spoken or unspoken implication that it shouldn't and its some kind of exceptional evil in comparison to how the rest of the world acts, even in the face of clear evidence that everyone acts like that or worse and always did.As conspiracy ideas go, it's quite a vintage one.
And it's not as if the West doesn't "meddle" all over the world. But I suppose to you that's different.
I said OnlyFans, not BonerDestruction dot com, lol.Off topic but the leader of the mainstream progressive liberal and "main" opposition party in Italy is a Swiss-born American of Ukranian-Lithuanian ancestry.
Elly Schlein - Wikipedia
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I didn't claim the West is strictly playing the role of "not touching anything" isolationists anywhere. In fact i said many times that it would be utterly retarded for it to do that, and even Russia is not retarded enough to do it, and yet some people still want to pry the hippy movement's foreign policy sunglasses out of its long rotten face and tell me that's something the West does uniquely, often with spoken or unspoken implication that it shouldn't and its some kind of exceptional evil in comparison to how the rest of the world acts, even in the face of clear evidence that everyone acts like that or worse and always did.