On all points of the front the Ukrainians are inching forward. You can't say the same for the Russians. Even the Russian Bloggers are saying that.
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paulobrito
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At what cost? More than 30% of the NATO hardware is already lost/destroyed.
Relevant I guess.
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How Is Russia Faring Against NATO Equipment In Ukraine? A Tally
Serious question. Do you even know what war is really like. It ain't like what you see in a movie. A lot of war is long grinding methodical battles. The only difference between wars 80 years ago and now is we have cameras all over the place. This is the normal for heavy warfare.
paulobrito
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Yes, I know what a real war is. I have been in one.
What the level of destruction tells you is that the counteroffensive is at serious risk of failing.
Not talking of the war but of this operation in particular.
What the level of destruction tells you is that the counteroffensive is at serious risk of failing.
Not talking of the war but of this operation in particular.
Breaching I'd expectant of 50 percent casualties
going to have to second this war historically expecially for the offense it typically brutal.
I don't get the same feeling here. The Russian forces are Morale impaired. It takes 1 solid penetration for their lines to break. If/when that happens, I'm betting well see more of the wholesale retreat and surrender they Russians have become noted for.
Sigh do you know how many towns and trenches the Ukrainians have to clear. How about you pull up Google Earth and look at all the towns and trenches on the Frontline. This is gonna take at least 2 months to fully clear out.
Did you get that number from Russian media? Because i see no other option and that's obviously untrustworthy.
When you need a force behind your force to kill people who run away thats a bad sign.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Except for the Rosvets, they have had such troops for a very long time.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Replace the term NATO equipment with Bradley Fighting Vehicle.
The NKVD "blocking formations" were in reality more about shoring up poorly equipped conscript levies with a leavening of hardened veteran troops that were dug in and fighting hard, not "these guys aren't even fighting the Germans themselves; they're only here to ruthlessly machine-gun you in the back if you retreat" as pop culture likes to play it.
paulobrito
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Counting the destroyed ones that appear in the photos all over the net. The same way the estimates of Russian destroyed hardware are calculated. Duh.
While Ukraine is receiving state of the art Western equipment, it looks like a lot of countries are using this opportunity to get rid of their Soviet-made crap (even modernized, like the Polish tanks) to replace it with more modern, Western vehicles/weapons, and older Western stockpiles (e.g. the Bradleys) are being shipped over for the same reason?
Countries shift their "old stock" and Ukraine gets weapons, vehicles, ammunition, aircraft, and supplies. Everyone wins.
...Except Russia.
Countries shift their "old stock" and Ukraine gets weapons, vehicles, ammunition, aircraft, and supplies. Everyone wins.
...Except Russia.
This war is going to take awhile and Russia will likely fight it until they cant fight any more.
Buba
A total creep
IMO the war will be fought to the last Ukrainian soldier and contents of last NATO warehouse.
Russia lost the war in March, March 2022.
Anything past that is madness.
This! Is! Russia!
