Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

For ammunition, whether or not it's still usable, the biggest factor will often come down to proper storage. IE, the ammo should be ideally stored in a proper climate-controlled bunker, depot etc. where the storage interior doesn't see too many temperature extremes, and also importantly is consistently DRY and kept away from the sunlight and weather effects. Fluctuating temperatures, high heat, moisture and sunlight are all bad for long term ammunition storage. This is why if you happen to store ammunition in your house, you should avoid storing said ammo in garages and attics, and instead opt for storage space or safes in the house proper where one would assume the climate and moisture is more consistently regulated.

Remember it's not just the explosive filler (when applicable) and the cartridge case or shell itself you should be concerned about. It's also the primers and propellant as well.
 
Powerful take: Even if Russia will lose Crimea, it won't be the end of the world for Russia 'coz Crimea is more of a state of mind than an actual place. Russia can simply build a new Crimea in Sochi or Gelendzhik or Novorossiysk. Putin himself will become kaput, though.
 
Jormungandr said:
Yup! So long as the shells themselves haven't been compromised and there are ways to launch them still around, they're still viable and will be used eventually in some form or another.

A bullet made in 1950 will still fire like the same bullet made in 2023, if it's intact.
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Yep. I once left a box of 9mm bullets on a shelf for over 20 years. I got another 9mm pistol. Loaded those shells up and the fired just fine.
 
Tiamat said:
For ammunition, whether or not it's still usable, the biggest factor will often come down to proper storage. IE, the ammo should be ideally stored in a proper climate-controlled bunker, depot etc. where the storage interior doesn't see too many temperature extremes, and also importantly is consistently DRY and kept away from the sunlight and weather effects. Fluctuating temperatures, high heat, moisture and sunlight are all bad for long term ammunition storage. This is why if you happen to store ammunition in your house, you should avoid storing said ammo in garages and attics, and instead opt for storage space or safes in the house proper where one would assume the climate and moisture is more consistently regulated.

Remember it's not just the explosive filler (when applicable) and the cartridge case or shell itself you should be concerned about. It's also the primers and propellant as well.
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And store all your ammo in these. I have 2 Ammo cans I store all my rounds in.
 
Bacle said:
Europe got a warmer than normal winter this year, it seems. Russian gas hostage play is DOA. @History Learner @Agent23 How's this for your narratives collapsing.
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If by collapsing you mean we were completely vindicated, then yes, that would be correct:



Indeed, the problem is only going to get worse for Europe:



Indeed, maybe you should take the time to learn peak European winter is still weeks away and the the EU countries have already spent $1 Trillion on energy costs associated with the war? You'll embarrass yourself less that way.
 
History Learner said:
If by collapsing you mean we were completely vindicated, then yes, that would be correct:



Indeed, the problem is only going to get worse for Europe:



Indeed, maybe you should take the time to learn peak European winter is still weeks away and the the EU countries have already spent $1 Trillion on energy costs associated with the war? You'll embarrass yourself less that way.
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In Poland we would not have winter at least till 16.2.2023.
And,EU fucked itself with green energy,not war.All we need is return to coal and everytching would be OK.

Comrade idiot putin helped us removing his cheap gas and oil - becouse it served germans,not Europe.
It would take time,but thanks to his stupidity we would be free both from him and germans.

some ukrainians and postsoviet army would die for that - but,it is really good,that THIS TIME Poland would not be dying for some ungrateful idiots.
 
Buba said:
Speaking from a Polish perspective, it is off course possible that winter with regular -15C nights comes in mid February and lasts until mid/end of March (there was such a winter two? three? years ago). But this is a month only.
That's nothing compared to a "nice, snowy" winter lasting from mid November until mid April. I remember a half year long winter in the mid 1990s. Yeah, I'm old, sue me :p
A repeat of that long winter would had been good for Russia ... for the Gas Weapon, not its troops.

BTW - nobody is capable of convincing me that the German (and other) Greens are NOT (to large degree) a Soviet and later Gazprom creation.
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Becouse they are soviet creation?
 
Husky_Khan said:
Russian Media apparently Admitting sixty three killed in a HIMARS strike in Makiivka, Northeast of the City of Donetsk where Mobilized troops were using a school as a base.







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Russians: Still stupid, still evil, still ideal Western targets. :( Very sad for me to say this given my own substantial Russian ancestry. :(
 
Jormungandr said:
Well, the upside of all this (if it can be called an upside), it may cause European nations to look back into nuclear power plants again, I guess? shrug
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Unfortunately the reasons for stopping to look into them are financial and ideological, and as such, unaffected by these events. Greens won't stop being stupid about nuclear power, and the up-front big ticket funding needed for them won't magically show up because of it.
Poland got a final push through, but it was thinking about it since a long time already and greens aren't very influential here.

Cutting the bureaucracy delays (mysteriously Asian countries can build them much faster than anyone else, which in turn reduces the financing problems) and setting up some economy of scale would mostly solve these problems (China does that too, so theirs are probably cheapest), but that requires telling all the bureaucrats and greens to fuck off.
 
So seeing reports Rogozin sent the French ambassador a piece of shrapnel from the attack that almost killed him, because it turns out the attack was carried out with a French Caesar arty system and French ammo.

Rogozin claimed France had betrayed de Gaulle by helping the US and west arm Ukraine.
 
Bacle said:
So seeing reports Rogozin sent the French ambassador a piece of shrapnel from the attack that almost killed him, because it turns out the attack was carried out with a French Caesar arty system and French ammo.

Rogozin claimed France had betrayed de Gaulle by helping the US and west arm Ukraine.
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I would have laughed and returned it.
 
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