Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

Scottty said:
Not really fair to old Gorby. That political system was crumbling, and there wasn't really anything he could have done to save it.

As to whether the Russians want the USSR back, might I suggest a different take?
The USSR was merely the most recent implementation of a Russian policy that goes back to well before the Communist takeover - the Russian heartland being protected by conquering all the bordering nations, and ruling them as subordinate provinces.
The old Imperial Russia liked to style itself as the latest incarnation of the Roman Empire. And in some ways it fits - the Roman Republic also expanded in part due to paranoia, but also so that they could do a whole lot of looting. Most of Rome's cool technologies came from other people they had conquered.
Eventually Rome had expanded its empire to the point where the boundaries were ocean, desert, and peoples who could not be conquered, or who were simply not worth the expense of conquering.
And having run out of anything to feed on, it began to decline.
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You forget Gorby had Chernobyl dumped in his lap fairly early on, and has said that incident and the political and literal fallout from it is what truly killed the USSR.
 
Bacle said:
You forget Gorby had Chernobyl dumped in his lap fairly early on, and has said that incident and the political and literal fallout from it is what truly killed the USSR.
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Which amplifies my point. Gorbachev did not want to collapse the USSR, but he could not prevent it.
 
Polish journalis Sumliński is sure that Belarus do not send army anywhere,becouse Łukaszenko need them to keep power,but they could arm 20.000 or more russians living in Belaruss and send them attack Poland.

Any chances for them to attack Ukraine? and how many Belaruss could arm?
 
ATP said:
Polish journalis Sumliński is sure that Belarus do not send army anywhere,becouse Łukaszenko need them to keep power,but they could arm 20.000 or more russians living in Belaruss and send them attack Poland.

Any chances for them to attack Ukraine? and how many Belaruss could arm?
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I mean, sure. He could do that. They'd be just as useless as what Russia is currently conscripting, though they might better equipeed.
 
The Whispering Monk said:
I mean, sure. He could do that. They'd be just as useless as what Russia is currently conscripting, though they might better equipeed.
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Well, I don't know, I have a strange feeling if there is a Belarusian incursion into Ukraine (And that is not likely to happen, on the contrary, Lukashenko is doing everything he knows how to do and can to get out of it, including playing an even bigger buffoon than usual) then I wouldn't be surprised if the Belarusian Armed Forces turn out to be much more competent than anyone expected to the point of plunging the Russians even further.
 
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Batrix2070 said:
Well, I don't know, I have a strange feeling if there is a Belarusian incursion into Ukraine (And that is not likely to happen, on the contrary, Lukashenko is doing everything he knows how to do and can to get out of it, including playing an even bigger buffoon than usual) then I wouldn't be surprised if the Belarusian Armed Forces turn out to be much more competent than anyone expected to the point of plunging the Russians even further.
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Nothing I've read or seen shows any evidence of the Belorussian military being willing to invade Ukraine, they weren't willing on February 24th and now that Ukraine's started blowing border crossings the idea that they may be more willing to invade now is... well... let's just say I'm skeptical.

If anything I'd see the Belorussian military deciding to take their chances fighting the Russians and the Minsk Potato's guards rather than getting eviscerated on the same narrow and doubtlessly mined / wrecked / otherwise decently defended routes the Russians were when they had near complete surprise and troops as prepared as they were ever going to be.
 
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lloyd007 said:
Nothing I've read or seen shows any evidence of the Belorussian military being willing to invade Ukraine, they weren't willing on February 24th and now that Ukraine's started blowing border crossings the idea that they may be more willing to invade now is... well... let's just say I'm skeptical.
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That's why I say it's rather impossible. Lukashenko himself is doing his best to stroke Putin to ultimately do nothing. After all, it's not a coincidence at all that Lukashenko showed the invasion map to himself like this on public television. It was a clear signal that he wasn't going to do it. I rather expect that when it comes down to a significant weakening of Russia, the one who will stab Russia in the back will be Lukashenko himself.
lloyd007 said:
f anything I'd see the Belorussian military deciding to take their chances fighting the Russians and the Minsk Potato's guards rather than getting eviscerated on the same narrow and doubtlessly mined / wrecked / otherwise decently defended routes the Russians were when they had near complete surprise and troops as prepared as they were ever going to be.
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Honestly looking at what is happening and have in mind that as a rule, Russia's colonies are better than Russia itself. This is rather to say that I would not be surprised if it turned out that Belarusian troops turned out to be better than Russian troops on average. Especially since Belarus doesn't have the reserves on paper that Russia does. To behave like Russia would be suicidal.
 
Husky_Khan said:
Smaller second wave of strikes hit Ukrainian Cities, "targeting" civilian infrastructure.





First German IRIS-T Air Defense System Potentially on its way to Ukraine. These are all brand new, though the first one was originally intended for Egypt.



Potential Munitions Shipment For Ukraine from Uganda to Poland via Ukraine's An-124.



BREM-1 Armored Recovery Vehicle Struck by Russian Gunship Whilst Towing a Captured Russian T-62M.

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History does not repeat but it does rhyme. Putin is pulling a page out of Hitler's playbook.

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The Terrifying German 'Revenge Weapons' Of The Second World War

The V1 flying bombs - also known as the 'doodlebugs' or 'buzz bombs' on account of the distinctive sound they made when in flight - were winged bombs powered by a jet engine. Launched from a ramp, or later from adapted bomber aircraft, the V1's straight and level flight meant that many were shot...
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Batrix2070 said:
Honestly looking at what is happening and have in mind that as a rule, Russia's colonies are better than Russia itself. This is rather to say that I would not be surprised if it turned out that Belarusian troops turned out to be better than Russian troops on average. Especially since Belarus doesn't have the reserves on paper that Russia does. To behave like Russia would be suicidal.
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Belorussia's military is untested and unless they're revolting against the Spud and his 'guests' probably supremely unmotivated to fight which would severely drag down their performance maybe to the point of breaking / surrendering at first contact.
 
FSB Reportedly Prevented a Ukrainian terrorist attack on a mass transit area in Bryansk, Russia. Caught on video! 😳😱🤯



I think it's time to point out we should condemn terrorism regardless of whose perpetrating it. God bless the FSB heroes.
 
Husky_Khan said:
FSB Reportedly Prevented a Ukrainian terrorist attack on a mass transit area in Bryansk, Russia. Caught on video! 😳😱🤯



I think it's time to point out we should condemn terrorism regardless of whose perpetrating it. God bless the FSB heroes.
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That's the Russian city that all four of my grandparents are buried at! :(
 
It's Mobiking Time!

One of Russia's Biggest Armored Facilities Located in Siberia will be Modernizing Refurbishing Dozens of T-62 Tanks for Russian Forces! No doubt this is in addition to the eleven thousand T-72's and T-80's that Russia already has waiting in storage. Endless supply. The fact that the T-62 uses 115mm ammunition instead of 125mm ammunition or requires loaders or they could be lacking the capability to maintain much less repair or modernize a T-62 due to defunct or out of production spare parts and sanctions or anything... minor concerns.



More cowards. Back in Stalin's day it took a brave man to not be a coward in the Red Army. And keep in mind this is from Bryansk... which just suffered a terroris



Just because you lose a limb doesn't mean that you stop serving Wagner.



Allegedly these brave convicts already earned their pardons but want to continue serving!

Volunteers in Belgorod are Helping Up-Armor Russian Armored Vehicles. I'm guessing ERA isn't a thing for some...



Modern Day Russian Grenadier.

 
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