Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

WolfBear

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Even China would not have money for something like that.

What about in Taiwan? China's population advantage over Taiwan is over 50:1, if I recall correctly. Though a lot of Taiwanese might want to move to the US rather than to live under totalitarian Chinese Communist Party rule.

 

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Present-day Donbass War map:

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Nah that one is outdated as even Ukraine admitted they retreated from Lysychansk
 

WolfBear

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Nah that one is outdated as even Ukraine admitted they retreated from Lysychansk

Yep:


I don't know why exactly Wikipedia hasn't updated its map yet.
 

WolfBear

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Non-Westerners simply don't care anywhere near as much about territorial conquest as Westerners do, apparently. Or perhaps they're simply more desperate for Russo-Chinese aid and thus are less capable of affording to take moral postures on important issues.
 

Marduk

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Non-Westerners simply don't care anywhere near as much about territorial conquest as Westerners do, apparently. Or perhaps they're simply more desperate for Russo-Chinese aid and thus are less capable of affording to take moral postures on important issues.
Or they care only when its *their* allies getting invaded rather than doing the invading.
 

ATP

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What about in Taiwan? China's population advantage over Taiwan is over 50:1, if I recall correctly. Though a lot of Taiwanese might want to move to the US rather than to live under totalitarian Chinese Communist Party rule.


China could have money/or not/ for doing that on Taiwan,but certainly not gave it to Moscov so they could genocide Ukraine.They are not charity.

And it do not matter that some soviet officials on foxnews declared that after 2 years there would be no Ukraine on map - they have no money for winning war,even if they win they have no money for occupation,and China would not lend them.
Even if China have such money/which is not sure/
 

ATP

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HIMARS Strike at Melitopol Reportedly Made at a Range of 82 Kilometers.



BMP-2 May Have Changed Ownership Multiple Times During the Course of the Invasion from Russia to Ukraine and back to Russian Forces.



DNR Seperatist Fighter Showing off his C-UAS Anti-Drone Zapper.



Russians Reportedly Deploying an Interesting Vessel to Help Protect the Kerch Straight Bridge that goes across the Straights connecting the Sea of Azov and greater Black Sea.



Estimate of Infrastructure Damage to Ukraine Thanks to Russian Liberation.



About that BMP2 - i read Orwell novel about fighting in Spain,and he mentioned story of 150mm schell/both sides used howitzer of that caliber/ which spend entire war being schoot,not exploding,refilled by second side,schoot again - and that till end of war.
They supposed to recognize it becouse there was name on it.
 

WolfBear

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Russia is failing in its goal to get Ukraine's human capital:


As for this Twitter post:



What exactly is Ukraine supposed to do when its own national existence, freedom, liberty, and independence are at stake? If one believes that the Soviet Union was right in shooting Soviet troops who deserted and/or retreated (because preventing the Soviet Union from getting conquered by Nazi Germany trumped all else), I'm not exactly sure why exactly Ukraine does not have a right to do something similar, especially in regards to deserters. It's extremely sad and tragic, no doubt, but what exactly is a country supposed to do when it is the victim of unprovoked aggression by its much larger neighbor? Had this neighbor not attacked Ukraine, none of this would have actually been necessary.
 

WolfBear

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That's rather bad thinking. German Mittleuropa is supposed to give Germany its own secure market and hinterland.
Polish Prometheism is supposed to smash Russia into splinters, while Innmaterium is supposed to give a safe zone that prevents Poland from being turned into an object of the superpowers' game and elevating us to that level.

It is impossible to reconcile because the two projects at their core contradict each other. Because only one of these countries will bring serious benefits to the other, making the latter dependent on the former.

Somewhat off-topic, but do you think that Poland's Prometheist vision (the separation of Ukraine, Belarus, the Caucasus, Central Asia, et cetera from Russia) would have ever actually been fulfilled had the Nazis never actually came to power in Germany and subsequently sparked World War II?

 

Husky_Khan

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Some of the Stories of the Fighting in the Donbass.

An Account Reportedly Told to Journalist Christopher Miller from a Wounded Ukrainian Soldier Who Confirms Heavy Casualties Suffered by the Ukrainian Forces.



Another Account in the form of a Short Video of Three Civilians Turned Recent Soldiers Who Had Just Rotated Out from Fighting in the Donbass Which They Say is the Most Intense Combat They've Yet Seen.



Also an Account from a Russian Volunteer From Last May About Serving in the Kharkiv Oblast.

War Translated said:
When I was in Ukraine several military people told me that the plan was to take Ukraine in four days. What can be said about this? Whoever planned it is a ‘genius’. If initially around 220k of our troops entered Ukraine, then it’s too little for a lightning-fast defeat of the army and capture of Kyiv, South-East of Ukraine and its central part. In my opinion we needed at least 600k trained troops for that. Then, it could have possibly worked, but unfortunately, what happened – happened…

Due to the fact that catastrophically few people entered to complete this initial plan, we’ve had such huge losses at the very beginning of the hostilities. These losses are covered up by our authorities, as many people say. And more often than not those were the best, most fearless and prepared that were dying. After all, who would normally go at the very vanguard of an attacking group, of a column? The commanders, and the best-prepared, the strongest fighters… You know what else is scary? That the federal channels in Russia are saying that everything is going great at frontlines, that the special operation is going according to a plan. My opinion is that it is often a vile, impudent and disgusting lie! Far from everything is going by the plan! Due to the constant lies I do not believe a single word all these creatures are saying on the federal media. I also do not believe anymore a single word from the official Russian authorities. Neither Peskov, nor any other characters.


Also one of the Azovstal Prisoners Exchanged Returning to His Wife.

 
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Batrix2070

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Somewhat off-topic, but do you think that Poland's Prometheist vision (the separation of Ukraine, Belarus, the Caucasus, Central Asia, et cetera from Russia) would have ever actually been fulfilled had the Nazis never actually came to power in Germany and subsequently sparked World War II?
Rather, the Second Polish-Bolshevik War would not have happened without a war, no less there are some chances if the intended economic boom breaks out in the 1940s and allows Poland to move on.
After all, one must know that our intelligence was poorly financed because there was a shortage of money and, to make matters worse, Soviet Intelligence made our intelligence and counterintelligence to the East a veritable joke.
All reports of Polish spies say straightforwardly that they are tracked all the time by the NKVD and they always know where they are.
And because of the lack of money, the only Polish spies in the USSR were those who agreed to do it for free and for the idea, and all recruitment was explicitly to look for those brave and willing to do it for free.
As long as our intelligence to the East does not get solid funding no Prometheism will matter without a war in which the Bolsheviks are sure to get a beating from us. The USSR yes that it has more men and resources, the problem is that we have been preparing for this war since the first one was over, all our equipment, organization or thinking was geared exclusively to defense against the Soviets.
That's why our fleet looked the way it did. That's why our infantry divisions resembled small corps, and the typical squad size was much larger than in other countries. That's why our airplanes, though few in number, were downright absurdly resilient to damage(to the point where you could crash your plane and it would still be repairable).

BTW I know a series of Polish books that asked themselves this question, unfortunately there is no English translation.
 

WolfBear

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Also one of the Azovstal Prisoners Exchanged Returning to Her Wife.



A trans woman? Anyway, this is how one can get around same-sex marriage bans; specifically marry a trans person. A lesbian cis woman marrying a lesbian trans woman, for instance.
 

WolfBear

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A look back at the start of this war:

It was at this time that Vladimir Putin informally declared himself Prince of Senkivka:

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He expected a quick victory, but 4.5 months later, he hasn't even managed to conquer all of the Donbass! :)
 

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