paulobrito
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Sorry to disappoint you, but they are at 28nm on lab experiment scale, 65nm is already in the production phase. Probably, low or very low (initial) production phase, but is another phase already.
Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)
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Where did you get that info?
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
That's what I can't tell you anymore, because I don't remember. Although looking at who was in power at the time and how much they considered Germany a strategic partner. I would be surprised if they did and tried in earnest.
paulobrito
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One report about the status of various countries' chip production capabilities in early February I think.
You guys might enjoy this:
An animated map of the 2014 Donbass War (Donbass separatists = red; Ukraine = yellow):
Putin says Western sanctions pushing Russia-Belarus unification
The two countries signed a treaty in support of integration in 1997, and have sped up that process in recent years.
How much did they consider Germany to be a strategic partner?
Chechen TikTok Battalion has Returned!
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
It's possible they've realized things aren't going to end well for Russia, so they're trying to have it both ways until the war ends.
Now they just need some female members! Hijabi Chechen Tik-Tok fighters! Or is that Hoejabi Chechen Tik-Tok fighters?
Anyway, I suspect that Chechens are some serious horndogs lol! 
(Interestingly enough, this fundie horndog business is quite interesting lol
: Young women told to pack sexy underwear before joining ISIS )BTW, interesting question: Why have things such as corruption and targeted killings been more entrenched in the East Slavic countries than in the rest of ex-Communist Eastern Europe? The Baltic countries were also a part of the Soviet Union, but they are considerably less corrupt than the East Slavic countries are, and also probably have much less targeted killings, I suspect. The fact that Russia and Belarus are dictatorships might have something to do with this, but more journalists were actually killed in Russia under Yeltsin than under Putin:
Russian Journalists Are Far Safer Than Mexican Journalists, Ordinary Russians, And Their Own Counterparts Under Yeltsin - Anatoly Karlin
One of the most common tropes against Russia is that critical (independent, democratic, etc) journalists there are dying like flies, presumably because of the “culture of impunity” created by Putin or even on his express orders. It is rarely mentioned that the statistical chances of a Russian...
akarlin.com
And Ukraine is a democratic country and yet also had strange occurrences in the past such as Viktor Yushchenko's poisoning and this man's killing:
And of course the killing of Oles Buzina as well:
Here's a map of European corruption, FWIW:
Well, if the war lasts until 2025, then maybe they could execute some people. Or maybe they'll delay once again. Hopefully.
Probably keeping them around as hostage diplomacy much like with Brittney Griner though that seemed more overt.
I think with her case, the fact that she's a black lesbian might have also played a role. Putin is anti-LGBTQ+ and he's not exactly welcoming towards people of color. His country doesn't have a lot of non-white immigrants, after all. Granted, she was a tourist, but the same logic still applies here.
Tiamat
I've seen the future...
I think Putin can honestly care less about US domestic politics, something that not everyone realizes, he sees US domestic politics as more useful as a tool to divide Americans. By that he is less worried about Griner being a black lesbian (assuming she really is, and not claiming it just to look "cool") and is more focused on her being a minor American celebrity, thus a possible useful bargaining chip. Not like the Russians haven't done this before.
I guess that this is why people such as Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard are so useful for Vladimir Putin. They help argue his cause to Western audiences, after all.
Tiamat
I've seen the future...
They're arguing it through their own prism of American domestic politics. Putin likely sees them more as useful fools than anything else.
History Learner
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Which is why, as usual, you need to actually learn to read before posting. I've told you many times and it continues to be obvious it's intentional on your end:
Does the word Ukrainians indicate a cumulative total? Sure, but nowhere in there does it lead to the exact opposite, which you have taken, as it meaning all are civilians. As I said before, the second paragraph explicitly states the opposite of what you're projecting. Furthermore, we have plenty of additional evidence to show large numbers of military casualties to buttress this position.
What an odd thing to say, given the Ukrainian official position on June 10th was 10,000 KIA and 30,000 WIA so can safely conclude another area of you having no idea what you're talking about:
A a few days later David Arakhamia said the number was now 200 to 500 killed on average and many more wounded. Either way you stack it, your claim here is absolutely bunk.
A noticeably evidence free claim which, given your above lack of knowledge of casualties, suggests it should be taken with a grain of salt.
c) The very loose estimate of "tens of thousands, hope it's not over 100k" was referring to the absolute total, which includes areas held currently by Russia, which Ukraine cannot get any proper data from, while intel of more Bucha style behavior is probably arriving. Bucha alone contributed 1k dead, and that's a town that had a population of 36k before the war.
Mariupol mayor says siege has killed more than 10K civilians
The mayor of the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol says more than 10,000 civilians have died in the Russian siege of his city and the full death toll could surpass twice that numberabcnews.go.com
Why are you twisting yourself into a pretzel to try make the Russian military look good?
You literally just said Ukraine cannot get any proper data from Russian controlled areas....and then just cited a Ukrainian official making claims about casualties in a Russian controlled area. Really might need to exercise some self awareness about who is twisting themselves into a pretzel here, because it's not I.
History Learner
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Well you kinda hit the nail on the head immediately, by citing Russian withdrawal from areas as to why the 100,000 figure is mostly military; how exactly can the Russians be killing Ukrainian civilians in large numbers if they're not occupying Ukrainian civilians in large numbers in the first place? Further, I'm glad Marduk brought up Bucha; if the Russians are actually out here mass executing Ukrainian civilians by the tens of thousands, where is the supporting evidence? The U.S. produced satellite imagery for Bucha, where are the killing fields that would contain bodies equal to Babi Yar? Maybe your take then is Russian airpower and missiles are just that horrific, but I thought the party line was the Russians were running out of them and they were very badly inaccurate?
Seriously, it's called critical thinking and far too many of you aren't using it in the least in this conflict. The narratives you have all bought into are directly contradictory and require you to get into so many logical contradictions it's not funny. This is a pretty good example of that, in that the article in question doesn't make the claim Marduk is claiming it does nor even, ironically, does the official in question; he conspicuously refused to elaborate. Given the obvious propaganda value, why?
Maybe because the truth is far closer to what I'm saying:
The battalion commander shrugged helplessly when we advised him that five days was a completely inadequate amount of time in which to train his soldiers. “This is all we have—they are needed on the front,” he replied with grim finality. A few days later, on a separate course that we were running for his medics, half of our class disappeared on the second day. “We have had casualties,” was the only explanation we received. Even in units that fall within the Ukrainian special operations command, most soldiers are sent to the front line with very little training. In one such unit, we estimated that just 20 percent had even fired a weapon before heading to combat.
Or the fact they're now conscripting women, despite the AFU supposedly having 700,000 men in the ranks already as a result of the most recent mobilizations? You can't square all of these circles, my dude. If you want an updated take on Russian casualty figures, I'll be glad to do that; you have an extremely bad tendency to cite older posts while failing to take into context this war is still unfolding.
The amount of projection in this post is honestly hilarious. If it's no use in loophole debating, then why make this paragraph? Or, even better, this post given you were not the subject of the conversation to begin with? For someone who sees no "impact on the real world situation" or that I'm not "convincing anyone here", it's odd you've never stopped to consider that's exactly what you're achieving here with me? As I said, it's all projection, but since you brought up the subject of prophets:
Truly, we live in an age of prophets with people like you around, Russia’s Oil Revenue Soars Despite Sanctions, Study Finds:
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine triggered global condemnation and tough sanctions aimed at denting Moscow’s war chest. Yet Russia’s revenues from fossil fuels, by far its biggest export, soared to records in the first 100 days of its war on Ukraine, driven by a windfall from oil sales amid surging prices, a new analysis shows.
Russia earned what is very likely a record 93 billion euros in revenue from exports of oil, gas and coal in the first 100 days of the country’s invasion of Ukraine, according to data analyzed by the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air, a research organization based in Helsinki, Finland. About two-thirds of those earnings, the equivalent of about $97 billion, came from oil, and most of the remainder from natural gas.
“The current rate of revenue is unprecedented, because prices are unprecedented, and export volumes are close to their highest levels on record,” said Lauri Myllyvirta, an analyst who led the center’s research.
I mostly just find you a joke to be honest, especially with this fake sympathy here. You've spent this entire thread and every interaction with me in particular doing nothing but personal attacks because that's all you can do. You've never been able to bring any citation with me, and in our last tangle you promptly fucked off when I was able to cite seven different sources to prove my case. You're not fooling anybody with these fake crocodile tears, because I realize exactly what you are.
History Learner
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Weird, given our last conversation I was able to cite multiple sources and to which you never replied. I don't have to pretend when I'm exactly right, do I? How about instead of launching personal attacks, you actually @ me next time because I'd love to show which of us is actually up to snuff.