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TheRejectionist

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Why can’t you get married? Also that last statement is stupid. It’s basically abandoning teaching of values and culture.

No, it is not I can't. I won't. However, being with just one woman. I can do that.

No it's not. Religion, while it can gives culture and values, it is not the only thing that gives them.
 

ATP

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Marriage is not an option for me. Converting is also not. For the fights, it will be the kid which will choose religion, if he does. Not me. Not her. Not her parents or mine.

In old polish commonwealth we have catholics,calvins,orthodox - and, when they married somebody belonging to other religion,they either convert to one,or agree that boys would follow father,and daughters mother.

Of course,gentry still could not wed peasant,no matter which religion they belong.Poland was paradise - but for gentry and jews,not commoners.
 

TheRejectionist

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In old polish commonwealth we have catholics,calvins,orthodox - and, when they married somebody belonging to other religion,they either convert to one,or agree that boys would follow father,and daughters mother.

Of course,gentry still could not wed peasant,no matter which religion they belong.Poland was paradise - but for gentry and jews,not commoners.

Basically like everywhere in the world.
 

WolfBear

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You mean inventions like the Russians inventing graphene or the original active protection system? How about the Chinese leading the way in green energy, with the worlds largest sea based solar panel for example? First quantum based satellite? The list goes on and on.



So you admit the Israelis don’t aid us in our campaigns? I asked you where the Israeli contingents in Afghanistan and Iraq were and your response Is to post about them aiding Afghan refugees lol? Lithuania is a better ally than Israel at this point.



You have yet to establish that all, besides attempting to gaslight it into existence here.

HL, I have a question for you: Do you think that the US made a mistake in withdrawing from the Iran nuclear dear under Donald Trump?

Also, Yes, I am certainly tempted to say that Israel has a lot of chutzpah. They treated Barack Obama pretty poorly even though he was a lot of bark and little bite. Heck, he even released Jonathan Pollard for them!

It seems to me like it would be a good idea to end or at least massively reduce US aid to Israel. Israel can subsequently figure out how to go from there. But they're already sufficiently wealthy and in any case we already previously did Israel a huge favor when we refused to allow all ex-USSR Jews who wanted to move to the US to actually do so, thus compelling them to move to Israel instead if they did not want to remain in the ex-USSR countries indefinitely.
 

Husky_Khan

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The inevitable Palestinian Succession Crisis.

Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinians current leader after Yassir Arafat croaked is in poor health and has doubled down by strengthening his own power, empowering cronyism and not bothering with grooming a potential successor.

FDD said:
Abbas is a heavy smoker who will turn eighty-six this month. Elected by a landslide in 2005 on promises of reform and transparency, Abbas is now in the sixteenth year of a four-year term. Polling shows that about three-quarters of Palestinians believe Abbas should step down. A prostate cancer survivor, Abbas is reported to have a heart condition and is rumored to suffer from stomach cancer. In 2018, he visited a Baltimore hospital and was hospitalized for tests.

Abbas declared that the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO)—of which Hamas is not a constituent group—would pick his successor, ruling out Hamas as a beneficiary. Abbas then dissolved the Palestinian Legislature in 2018 and stacked the judiciary with loyalists in 2019, further consolidating power in the executive.

By concentrating autocratic power in his own hands, Abbas heightened the risk of a crisis if he is suddenly incapacitated. Furthermore, Abbas has not groomed a successor within the ranks of the PLO or his own Fatah faction. There are a handful of possible candidates; However, Abbas has not elevated any one of them, laying the table for an ugly power struggle upon his departure.

In the absence of such a leader, it is possible once Abbas is gone that Hamas would launch a violent campaign to take over the West Bank, as it did in Gaza in 2007. Yet even if there were snap elections, the pervasive corruption and abuse of the Abbas era have created a situation in which Hamas would likely come to power through elections. According to September elections polling, Hamas would make a clean sweep in Palestinian elections.

 

ATP

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The inevitable Palestinian Succession Crisis.

Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinians current leader after Yassir Arafat croaked is in poor health and has doubled down by strengthening his own power, empowering cronyism and not bothering with grooming a potential successor.




Another proof why monarchies are better.Whatever you say about arab kings,they have no problem with lack of successor.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
The inevitable Palestinian Succession Crisis.

Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinians current leader after Yassir Arafat croaked is in poor health and has doubled down by strengthening his own power, empowering cronyism and not bothering with grooming a potential successor.




It likely will be dead Israelis and Palestinians. The main difference will be in numbers and trauma.
 

GoldRanger

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Vote on Israel’s African Union ouster deferred for a year

“Algeria and South Africa failed in their attempt to kick Israel out,” a Foreign Ministry source said.

The committee is meant to review Israel’s status and submit its conclusion to next year’s AU Executive Council.

Palestinians continue to meddle and try to undermine Israel in areas that have nothing to do with them, and continue to fail.

What the fuck have the Palestinians got to do with the relations between Israel and Africa? Israel has been providing many countries in Africa with critical agricultural technologies, and has cordial relations with 40+ out of the 55 members of the African Union. Then comes insidious Palestinian efforts to isolate Israel, and fail spectacularly again. Maybe one day they'll learn that being petty doesn't work, and doesn't get them closer to destroying Israel.
 
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Cherico

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Palestinians continue to meddle and try to undermine Israel in areas that have nothing to do with them, and continue to fail.

What the fuck have the Palestinians got to do with the relations between Israel and Africa? Israel has been providing many countries in Africa with critical agricultural technologies, and has cordial relations with 40+ out of the 55 members of the African Union. Then comes insidious Palestinian efforts to isolate Israel, and fail spectacularly again. Maybe one day they'll learn that being petty doesn't work, and doesn't get them closer to destroying Israel.

you guys really should have just eaten the bad press and kicked them all out during the 70s. Your rep would have been shit for a decade and then it would all be over.
 

Marduk

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Palestinians continue to meddle and try to undermine Israel in areas that have nothing to do with them, and continue to fail.

What the fuck have the Palestinians got to do with the relations between Israel and Africa? Israel has been providing many countries in Africa with critical agricultural technologies, and has cordial relations with 40+ out of the 55 members of the African Union. Then comes insidious Palestinian efforts to isolate Israel, and fail spectacularly again. Maybe one day they'll learn that being petty doesn't work, and doesn't get them closer to destroying Israel.
That's because since the beginning of the conflict they view it as something between a blood feud and holy war, with time shifting a bit more towards the latter. In that context trying to damage Israel's interests in every field by any means to weaken it even the slightest bit at every opportunity makes perfect sense.
Moreover, due to being governed and cultured by freaking terrorist organizations for decades now, its hard to say if many of them may ever understand the conflict in a different way, with all the implications that brings for the future of any peace process (or even if anything worthy such a name is possible to begin with).
 

ATP

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Clearly, apartheid.

Many blacks fought for both Rhodesia and South Africa.And there is still no Izraeli citizenship,only arabs,jews,druz etc.So yes,aparthaid - but considered how things look in,let say,Saudi Arabia,it probably better for palestinians.
Just like blacks lived better in aparthaid Rhodesia then Zimbwabwe.
 

Husky_Khan

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Airstrikes reported around Damascus and a Syrian SAM reportedly exploding inside Israeli airspace.

 

Battlegrinder

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Poor,opressed Israel.Again bad arabs made them attack,in selfdefence,of course !

Given the alternative explanation is "Isreal decide to risk a bunch of ridiculously expensive military hardware and equally expensive fighter pilots for no good reason and just wanted to kill some people".....yeah, the most plausible explanation is that Isreal had a fairly legit reason for attacking.

This was targeted at Bashir "gas the civilians and barrel bomb the survivors" Assad or forces loyal to him, are you under the impression that attacking him is immoral?
 

King Arts

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Given the alternative explanation is "Isreal decide to risk a bunch of ridiculously expensive military hardware and equally expensive fighter pilots for no good reason and just wanted to kill some people".....yeah, the most plausible explanation is that Isreal had a fairly legit reason for attacking.

This was targeted at Bashir "gas the civilians and barrel bomb the survivors" Assad or forces loyal to him, are you under the impression that attacking him is immoral?
Yes it is immoral to attack him. Because the Syrian government forces are the most moral side in the civil war. Unless you are gonna go full neo con and tell us about those poor innocent "moderate rebels" that he gassed and bombed.
 

Battlegrinder

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Yes it is immoral to attack him. Because the Syrian government forces are the most moral side in the civil war. Unless you are gonna go full neo con and tell us about those poor innocent "moderate rebels" that he gassed and bombed.

It's possible for him to be the better man and also still a bad guy.
 

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