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TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Poland was betrayed by jews in 1920.We did nothing.They betrayed us,again,in 1939.I always thought,that we are nation of idiots if we let jews live among us after first treason,but it seems,that ERE and Persia was even more stupid.
Thanks,now i feel relevied.

Need sources for this.
 

ATP

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Need sources for this.

No need.My maternal grandmother saw jews building tryumphant arcs for coming soviets in 1920 in Warsaw,when all male poles go to army and all females was praing to God.It is passed down in all families who lived in Warsaw in 1920.

You could read any memories from 1920 - 0r 1939,when soviet come again.
 

ATP

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Need sources for this.

not polish memories - Karloo Kurko,finish volunteer in polish army in his book "Cud nad Wisłą "/Miracle on Vistula/ - he served with russian unit fighting for poles,and becouse they look like soviets and always retreated last,jews welcomed them thinking ,that they are soviets.Becouse they were russians who was persecuted by jews,they killed leaders on the spot.

Here,article about him.In polish,but you could translate it
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
No need.My maternal grandmother saw jews building tryumphant arcs for coming soviets in 1920 in Warsaw,when all male poles go to army and all females was praing to God.It is passed down in all families who lived in Warsaw in 1920.

You could read any memories from 1920 - 0r 1939,when soviet come again.

ATP.

Very few oral accounts are considered valid.

This historian, son of the Roman Rabbi, got metaphorically crucified by his own people for "daring" to take into consideration maybe "blood libel" wasn't all unfounded. AND HE HAD TONS OF RESEARCH AND SOURCES.


not polish memories - Karloo Kurko,finish volunteer in polish army in his book "Cud nad Wisłą "/Miracle on Vistula/ - he served with russian unit fighting for poles,and becouse they look like soviets and always retreated last,jews welcomed them thinking ,that they are soviets.Becouse they were russians who was persecuted by jews,they killed leaders on the spot.

Here,article about him.In polish,but you could translate it

Ok those are much better.
 

King Arts

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ATP.

Very few oral accounts are considered valid.

This historian, son of the Roman Rabbi, got metaphorically crucified by his own people for "daring" to take into consideration maybe "blood libel" wasn't all unfounded. AND HE HAD TONS OF RESEARCH AND SOURCES.




Ok those are much better.
I don’t think comparing this to blood libel is fair because blood libel is obviously false and defamation of Jewish people. Even ignoring the cannibalism jews are forbidden to consume blood in general under their laws. The disloyalty is based on the Jewish being a minority and treated as second class citizens why would they have loyalty to a nation that isn’t their own.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
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I don’t think comparing this to blood libel is fair because blood libel is obviously false and defamation of Jewish people. Even ignoring the cannibalism jews are forbidden to consume blood in general under their laws. The disloyalty is based on the Jewish being a minority and treated as second class citizens why would they have loyalty to a nation that isn’t their own.
 

Cherico

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Hamas commits war crimes as a matter of policy the sad truth is that left wingers just love images of dead jews too much to ever condem them for it.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
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Doubt what? That Jews were discriminated in medieval times, that because they were discriminated they weren’t loyal to nations they lived in and helped invaders when they came in. What are you saying?

I wish I could address it further. I simply can't.
 

GoldRanger

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I wish I could address it further. I simply can't.
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Doubt what? That Jews were discriminated in medieval times, that because they were discriminated they weren’t loyal to nations they lived in and helped invaders when they came in. What are you saying?
He probably believes Jews actually do drink blood or kill Christian babies as part of Jewish rituals.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
OK, I'm glad.

Also, I would be the last person to have said opinion, both because I visited, worked and so on in Israel for a limited time and was positively impressed, although I never reached full pro-Zionist o Philosemitic.

I would say that my opinion changed.

I fell more comfortable with those local Jewish than with their American bretheren. The latter I can't stand, basically lots of them behave Seth Rogen and Sarah Silverman, or are liberal. Or both.

And I have rejected that (now totalitarian) ideology 8/9 years ago.

I would also pick a Mizhrai or Sephardi woman over an Italian.
 

King Arts

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Also, I would be the last person to have said opinion, both because I visited, worked and so on in Israel for a limited time and was positively impressed, although I never reached full pro-Zionist o Philosemitic.

I would say that my opinion changed.

I fell more comfortable with those local Jewish than with their American bretheren. The latter I can't stand, basically lots of them behave Seth Rogen and Sarah Silverman, or are liberal. Or both.

And I have rejected that (now totalitarian) ideology 8/9 years ago.

I would also pick a Mizhrai or Sephardi woman over an Italian.
Then you should probably convert. Mixed religion households are more shaky than single religious houses. It would lead to fights on what religion to raise the kids just to start.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Then you should probably convert. Mixed religion households are more shaky than single religious houses. It would lead to fights on what religion to raise the kids just to start.

Marriage is not an option for me. Converting is also not. For the fights, it will be the kid which will choose religion, if he does. Not me. Not her. Not her parents or mine.
 

King Arts

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Marriage is not an option for me. Converting is also not. For the fights, it will be the kid which will choose religion, if he does. Not me. Not her. Not her parents or mine.
Why can’t you get married? Also that last statement is stupid. It’s basically abandoning teaching of values and culture.
 

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