Well, if it sucks too much there might be some political instability coming...
For that and for many more reasons.
"TradWives" Triggering Unhappy Feminists
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Well, if it sucks too much there might be some political instability coming...
For that and for many more reasons.
Ixian
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Lol, bold of you to assume there will be many grandchildren.
As to polygamy, that worked in the days of palace economies during antiquity, it doesn't work well in modern industrial and post-industrial societies that require the buy-in and support of the majority of their male populations to function.
Men with little to no chance of owning land, or having a wife and family, typically don't give two fucks about their wider society.
And what do you base this on? I've already pointed to The Davocate as a great example, and I know people personally who have more of a father or mother in a step-parent than they did in their biological parent. This may be anecdotal, but it's more than you have just stating something on the internet or citing some biased "study."
Blasterbot
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O.K. I take your anecdotes. apply my own from what I have seen myself and look at the statistics that I know of. 2nd marriages sometimes work out however they also sometimes don't and they got a higher rate of abuse than the 1st marriage does statistically and they generally aren't as good for the kids as if Mom and dad can stay together and work their shit out. about the only time it is better is if the 1st marriage was abusive.
Or old cattle owner.I watched some document 30 years ago/forget title,like always/ about african tribe where you pay about 30 she-goats for good waifu - and,becouse young people seldom have ,they usually must wait till they are relatively old to marry.
I mean if we're going on anecdotes 9 out of the 20 girls I knew who self harmed when I was a teenager were doing so because their stepmother's legitimately wanted them dead and saw them as competition.
4 of the barely teen moms in my middle school were pimped out by their step parents.
I went to good schools in both countries and you still had this shit and you still had disasters.
Now? Virtually every single person I've had to fire under 30 for severe mental dysfunction is either non binary or severely emotionally immature and nearly all of 'em come from broken homes or homes where dad or mom got "replaced".
They wield it like it's an excuse to be a piece of shit.
You might have went to "good schools" in both countries, but you must've been in pretty fucked up areas. Or, I don't know, maybe it's just a city folk thing.
You might have went to "good schools" in both countries, but you must've been in pretty fucked up areas. Or, I don't know, maybe it's just a city folk thing.
It's cretainly more a city thing.
A rural divorcee still usually has a small farm or some aspect of the local community to manage so she thinks more of her kids and neighborhood, her people, she needs the town and another to thrive. They can error but not that ruinously.
The Urbanite divorcee by contrast is a locust.
My ex husband had a bad habit of using me as a punching bag and as a human sex toy. I divorced him and took our kids because of this. Sounds like some of you really what a woman in my situation kicked out with nothing and never being able to see my kids. I'm assuming in some of your opinions that my kids would have been better off growing up in a house filled with screaming and pain, but hey gotta stay together right?
DarthOne
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If your going to come marching in and make accusations like that, then have the honestly and courage to actually name the people on this forum that you are accusing.
There are no girls on the internet, prove it.
DarthOne
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SoliFortissimi
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As the replies may have showed you, yeah, they would.
Personally, I've always felt that civilization should be the gradual movement from violence and savagery towards understanding and wisdom. No half decent country should allow a marriage where violence occurs, and no child should ever see his mother demeaned or abused.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
I may be forgetting a post or two, but generally speaking in here people have been arguing against no fault divorce.
You had very justified cause to find that man at fault, and systemic abuse is absolutely one of the reasons to not just divorce a man, but get him put in prison.
Skitzyfrenic
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>Thread: Overwhelmingly complain about no fault divorce, where it's basically 'wake up one day and get a divorce' and how destructive that has been towards society.
>Thread: Overwhelmingly completely support fault divorces, literally say how abuse is a fault, multiple times, and women (and men) absolutely have the right to divorce at that point, multiple times.
>Woman jumps in and tells us she had fault, and rightfully divorced her husband while making wildly unfounded accusations and not actually naming anyone in the thread. Reframing, reinterpret, and restate everything so that she can gaslight herself and the thread into her vs them where she's in the right and everyone else is wrong.
>Thread isn't gaslit
Seems about right.
>Thread: Overwhelmingly completely support fault divorces, literally say how abuse is a fault, multiple times, and women (and men) absolutely have the right to divorce at that point, multiple times.
>Woman jumps in and tells us she had fault, and rightfully divorced her husband while making wildly unfounded accusations and not actually naming anyone in the thread. Reframing, reinterpret, and restate everything so that she can gaslight herself and the thread into her vs them where she's in the right and everyone else is wrong.
>Thread isn't gaslit
Seems about right.
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King Arts
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So if your ex husband actually beat you then you could divorce him. Since that would not be at fault divorce. If he beats you cheats you on you or abandons you and refuses to provide for the family then you have cause for divorce.
No fault divorce is where you divorce for NO reason just because you don’t “love” him anymore. You see the difference between the first paragraph and the second?
I'm sorry. I asked my husband to look through this thread to see if I was overreacting. He said although some of you could be more clear no one was advocating for women to be forced to stay in abusive marriages. This is a long thread and I missed a few things (my reading comprehension isn't the best) that weren't mentioned again because most people in the thread already knew what they were talking about. Between going through menopause having my anti depression medication changed and not sleeping well, I haven't been myself lately. Some of the things said in the thread (taken out of context) were things (among others) that were said to me during my first marriage and divorce. My ex was a horrible person who abused used and controlled me (and my kids) for years. I was told everything was my fault. I apologize. Because of my trauma I accused people of things that weren't true and that's not right.
Skitzyfrenic
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You're forgiven. Thank you for having the integrity to apologize.
I hope you feel better soon.
Context is important. I am aware that when it comes to trauma people can be irrational, even without your other reasoning.
The problem on my end, and I assume a lot of people's ends, is this is basically how the conversation goes every time. On forums, IRL, everywhere.
The response you gave is the knee jerk reaction of basically every feminist. Say no fault divorce is bad, and they whatabout with a fault divorce and try to reframe the whole discussion. It makes it very hard to have an honest conversation.
It really comes across like gaslighting the narrative to the point where I think mentioning anything bad about divorce is instantly 'supporting wife beaters.' And it's been effective for a long time.
You (and definitely Soli) have likely been trained and socially conditioned to see any sort of negativity towards divorce and instantly assume people want to keep abuse victims in abusive relationships. And to see 'stay together for the kids' as 'continue to be abused where the kids can see it.'
No, if abuse is a problem, absolutely leave and take the kids.
It's how I ended up with my father having custody of me and my sister. My mother was so toxic, so emotionally manipulative and abusive, that even the courts in California had to keep me and her away.
And you absolutely did the right thing and divorced him and took the kids. I don't think anyone here disagrees.
SoliFortissimi
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I wonder if we could get execution on the books for domestic abusers?