"TradWives" Triggering Unhappy Feminists

mrttao

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Would you guys(if you had power as a president, king, senator, etc.) be willing to compromise and allow no fault divorce for couples without children, if you were able to ban it for those with children? Can you say yes or no, and your reasons for doing so please.

@Captain X There ya happy?
Those are some very different scenarios
If I was king, my word would be law. I would write up a comprehensive reform without needing to compromise with anyone about anything. all I would have are advisors.

If I was a senator, then by definition I would be one of many, compromise would be a given.
However, I cannot imagine the other side ever giving us an inch in compromise. As such, the only time we could possibly enact a change would be when we have a solid majority such that we don't even need to listen to the other side. Because demonrats never compromise.
Any compromise would be between me and other conservative senators.

I do agree that the situation for childless couples is different compared to if there are children involved.
The barriers to divorce with children should be significantly harder than divorce without children.

In the case of childless separation. well my only issues with it is that it is a vehicle for divorce raping men. and people violating oaths.
Ban common law marriage, ban alimony, respect prenups, and a few other things would have to be part of such a compromise.

although it still irks me that we are encouraging people to be filthy liars who just take then break oaths at a whim.
 

Marduk

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Would you guys(if you had power as a president, king, senator, etc.) be willing to compromise and allow no fault divorce for couples without children, if you were able to ban it for those with children? Can you say yes or no, and your reasons for doing so please.

@Captain X There ya happy?
Well its better than status quo, that's for sure. It would at least limit the "window of opportunity" for the effects of this mess to couples that are still childless, but ideally, the law, courts and institutions should stop enabling and even rewarding people (and with feminist influence in the abovementioned that's usually women) for playing the marriage-divorce setup "for fun and profit", be it no fault divorce or any other kind, if it was so divorces would be rarer, and so the existence of no fault divorce would also be less damaging to society and public confidence in the institution of marriage, and that compromise also achieves it in somewhat different way, so sure.
As to more parents. Polyamory is relatively new and niche(well technically it's old as polygamy but you know what I mean) so I don't know if there is any studies on if a child would do better with more than two parents. Probably not as they'd be bullied, because it's socially frowned upon. The only large scale groups that do/did it are Muslims and Mormons and they have other reasons that bring them down and cause them to be shitty.
From what we do know of those other societies, it gets you absolutely bonkers and definitely toxic intra-family politics with parents and relatives favoring *their* blood related children over the other children in the same family, and even if not, constant suspicion and accusations of them doing so.
 

Bassoe

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It's not about efficiency which is good because it isn't efficient, rather, that situations where majorities of women vote to send men to die in a war they're allowed to stay home from shouldn't happen. Or rather, shouldn't happen again, it's already the case in modern Sweden in which military-age men as a demographic are against joining NATO and potentially being dragged into NATO's conflicts and women aren't.
Therefore either:
 

SoliFortissimi

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Look, if the Left sets something on fire, and the Right then wants to soak it in water....
That's what the right should ideally want. That or to stop them from setting it on fire in the first place.

Bur what these Bolsheviks want it is to set it on fire, but with another brand of matchstick.
 

Jormungandr

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Well its better than status quo, that's for sure. It would at least limit the "window of opportunity" for the effects of this mess to couples that are still childless, but ideally, the law, courts and institutions should stop enabling and even rewarding people (and with feminist influence in the abovementioned that's usually women) for playing the marriage-divorce setup "for fun and profit", be it no fault divorce or any other kind, if it was so divorces would be rarer, and so the existence of no fault divorce would also be less damaging to society and public confidence in the institution of marriage, and that compromise also achieves it in somewhat different way, so sure.

From what we do know of those other societies, it gets you absolutely bonkers and definitely toxic intra-family politics with parents and relatives favoring *their* blood related children over the other children in the same family, and even if not, constant suspicion and accusations of them doing so.
This is anecdotal, but more and more AITA and RelationshipAdvice stories are slowly coming out (YouTube text-to-speech videos exploiting these are an amusing distraction for me at times) about the children of parents who are swingers, "throuples", or other such kink bullshit.

...Yeah, they all go as well as you first think.

The kids hate their parents, feel marginalized over their parents' desires to just fuck like rabbits all the time with other people, and typically want nothing to do with them as soon as they turn eighteen/head off to college to escape. The parents, in turn, literally cannot understand why their kids hate them when strangers meet them in the middle of the night after they've fucked one or both of their parents.

There was only one I can recall which actually worked, and that was because the "second woman" in the marriage (called "Jane", IIRC) was basically completely asexual to the point where she might as well have been an actual pod person.

She was basically a live-in "bro" that went on "date nights" with both of them which were all basically just what friends would do on a regular basis e.g. hang out at the cinema, bar, et cetera, and in turn helped with babysitting, et cetera.

Amusingly enough, the OP's cousin decided "open marriages" could work because he only saw "guy living with two women, one his wife" and decided to force his wife into a similar arrangement.

Yeah, it blew up his marriage very quick when his wife, after only a few months, told him to kick rocks, took the kid, and filed for divorce.

He had the gall to blame the OP, and he and their family tried to get the OP to apologise for... Cousin being a complete cunt and blowing up his life for being a cheating tosser. :ROFLMAO:

Other stories have the "second" girlfriend, "wife", boyfriend, or "husband" literally try to take over roles and force the original partner out over time, and they can't understand when they're the ones told to GTFO instead.

Degeneracy, folks; not even once.
 

DarthOne

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Those are some very different scenarios
If I was king, my word would be law. I would write up a comprehensive reform without needing to compromise with anyone about anything. all I would have are advisors.

If I was a senator, then by definition I would be one of many, compromise would be a given.
However, I cannot imagine the other side ever giving us an inch in compromise. As such, the only time we could possibly enact a change would be when we have a solid majority such that we don't even need to listen to the other side. Because demonrats never compromise.
Any compromise would be between me and other conservative senators.

I do agree that the situation for childless couples is different compared to if there are children involved.
The barriers to divorce with children should be significantly harder than divorce without children.

In the case of childless separation. well my only issues with it is that it is a vehicle for divorce raping men. and people violating oaths.
Ban common law marriage, ban alimony, respect prenups, and a few other things would have to be part of such a compromise.

although it still irks me that we are encouraging people to be filthy liars who just take then break oaths at a whim.
About covers it and then some.
 

Jormungandr

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Exactly. The fact that people can’t grasp this boggles my mind. It’s so damn obvious.
I gotta admit, it's also pretty hilarious when a wife or girlfriend realizes that her "doormat" boyfriend/husband has mentally checked out and is apathetic about her, is getting more attention from women than she thought he would, panics and realizes she's likely going to be dumped and/or replaced, and tries to "close the relationship" or impose new rules.

And the man is like, "nah, fuck that, I'm out"... Sometimes resulting in him starting a serious, monogamous relationship with one of the women he was flirting it/casually dating.
 

Jormungandr

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No, it's just sad. Dysfunctional relationships always are.
I find them funny because despite numerous warnings and examples from other people/ex-couples that this shit always blows up in one or both of their faces (mostly women, but a minority of men go for it, too), they still try it and it still blows up in their faces because their feminist friends or articles online bullshitted them into it.

Many men have said the moment their girlfriend or wife brings it up, they know the marriage or relationship is pretty much dead. Some even look at divorce attorneys straight away, and most of the time they're right as the wife/girlfriend has already cheated.

So, no, it's not sad in the way you're thinking; it's hilarious in a "I told you not to stick your dick in the plug socket" kinda way, as they're carted off by an ambulance.
 

mrttao

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Many men have said the moment their girlfriend or wife brings it up, they know the marriage or relationship is pretty much dead. Some even look at divorce attorneys straight away, and most of the time they're right as the wife/girlfriend has already cheated.
generally it either means she already cheated. Or it is a bullshit test and she will cheat if you fail it by exposing yourself to be a cuckold when asked.
 

Terthna

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Perhaps a key takeaway is that a relationship is a two-sided matter that needs to be maintained and kept going. If one of them takes it for granted and just ignores the needs of the other person, he or she should not be surprised if one day the other person is no longer there.
And if you add more people to that equation, it just makes it exponentially more difficult. Not impossible; but any time it works out is going to be the exception, not the rule.
 

DarthOne

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Parenting: The New Sex Trafficking

Munchausen by proxy is a mental illness in which the mother (it's almost always the mother) injures or sickens her own child on purpose for attention and sympathy. Grooming is a crime in which an adult nurtures a child over a long period of time to be open to receiving sexual advances.

American parenting is starting to resemble a terrifying combination of both.

How else to explain why girls are being turned out—groomed for extreme antisocial sexual behavior from a young age—not by pimps, but by their parents and teachers?

When it comes to sex ed, I believe in the screenwriting theory known as Chekhov's gun: if you show a gun in the first act, it must be fired by the third. If you show kids the sex toys (and worse) in the first grade, the sex toys will be used by high school.

Recently, NPR published "What Your Teen Wishes You Knew About Sex Education." In the article, we meet Electra McGrath-Skrzydlewski, who made a point of telling her fourth-grade daughter Lily, well, everything. "She was very open from the get-go, even before those were things that I needed to know about," her daughter recounts.

Lily came out as pansexual at age 12.

At an institutional level, we are creating a cursed generation of females expert at every imaginable permutation of sex with an infinite number of partners, while largely shunning the other thing, the main thing, the only thing still emitting any heat in the cold, merciless hearth of contemporary life: the dream of forming a family.

Because the shocking truth is: No one wants to wife a sex expert.

You Can't Kiss the Bride, She's Been Groomed

One reason American parents—mothers mainly—are rushing their daughters onto the Pill or LARC implants (long-acting reversible contraceptives) is to make sure their offspring are not punished with babies in high school. "I can't possibly stop her from doing what comes naturally, but I can temporarily sterilize her."

The schools do their part by forcing children into mandatory early sex education classes that often include graphic illustrations of sexual positions and expose even kindergarteners to the infinite array of gender variants and sexual orientations newly discovered in the human genome.

Condom demonstrations on bananas? That's so 1999.

High school sophomores now know how to prepare each other's rectums for "safe anal play," which is pitched as a zesty, natural activity for all genders. In 2019, California approved a terrifying, dystopian new statewide curriculum that includes a seventh-grade lesson that "identified sexual activities such as bathing together and mutual masturbation as safe options to avoid sexually transmitted diseases."

Whew! I don't know about you, but I'm always relieved when I finish preparing some organic, gluten free, plant-based after-school snacks and discover my sixth-grade daughter in the bath with her classmates! Because, you know, it's much harder to transmit chlamydia in water than through intercourse. Bless you, Governor Newsom!

When it comes to sex ed, I live by a very simple rule: if an adult who is not our pediatrician tries to talk to my child about their genitals, this person's kneecaps should expect to meet my crowbar. Normal adults do not wish to talk about children's genitals or discuss children having sex with children in front of other children. Everyone knows only priests can do that!

It's actually not the kiddie porn-adjacent sex ed lessons that bother me the most—instead, it's the constant, ad nauseam emphasis on dating and relationships. Among middle schoolers!

Another story about the California curriculum included this: "An eighth-grade lesson on sexual orientation described hypothetical dating scenarios of teenagers. It gave an example of a 'ninth grade guy' who has been attracted to and made out only with girls, but who fell in love with another guy and is in a relationship with him. The couple also date other people, but are both dating only guys."

Hang on: are 13- and 14-year-olds even supposed to be in relationships? With multiple people and genders? Aren't relationships reserved for grownups—or at least much older teenagers? If my middle-schooler tried to talk to me about his or her "relationship" with some other pubescent dork, I'd laugh, ground them, and take away their Nintendo Switch. Haha, looks like you're single now, kid!

Why do AWFLS want their daughters to start dating so early? As anyone who has been involuntarily single can confirm, dating almost always totally sucks. Why do PARENTS (!) want to extend their child's miserable dating window longer and longer, younger and younger? How many years of soul-destroying "dating" are they willing to subject their kid to? Ten years? Twenty? A lifetime of unfulfilled longing?

Shouldn't parents be guiding children to make their dating windows as short as possible? Imagine if your entire dating history consisted of one date! It would be like pitching the perfect game in baseball. We met, went on one date, and that was it.

It all reminds me of the moment when Charlotte from Sex and the City, the ancient Ur text of eternal white female concubinage, cries out plaintively "I've been dating since I was fifteen! I'm exhausted! Where is he already?"

Poor Charlotte. She tried to warn you, you AWFL women!



The dark reason why white suburban women fight so hard to keep abortion available is not for them - its for their daughters.

They want to give their daughters every opportunity to be a hot object of desire in college and beyond, and an unwanted pregnancy (or worse, chastity!) will derail their plans.
(...)
They imagine a group of suitors who resemble Christian Gray and Henry Cavill swarming their daughter at all times, begging for her attention
 

LordsFire

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It takes a certain amount of shallow immaturity to try to 'open' your marriage so that you can satisfy your lusts with other people.

It is very rare for that to combine with the maturity that is needed to keep a relationship together.

And that's before you involve the trauma-induced pathologies that can feed into such twisted appetites.
 

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