United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

Because many of these post-modernists do not have moral standards outside of 'what I want.'

Oh, they have standards. Double Standards. One's that can change frequently and apply selectively and feign commonality and sanity.

Most consistent standard is "We're better than those monsters" and who "those monsters" are is something they need in order to maintain an "underdog" narrative
 
I dunno. I really just don't know. All I know (and can see) is that, at the moment? Everything's going to shit.
 
They absolutely were. Nowhere near as high a standard as would have been right, but there's a difference between having standards and failing to meet them, and not having standards at all.


say that to the people six feet under for not meeting those standards. and these people do have standards it's called "Life is a game and the objective is to beat everyone else." It's the same standards that have existed since time began, one giant race to have the biggest stick possible and guess what, their winning in terms of influance if this forum and the internet for that matter is anything to go by.

The fact that the DA/AG in Minneapolis sat on the video *preceding* Floyd being on the ground for so long, is proof of that. If they were interested in calming an explosive situation, they would have immediately released that footage. But they didn't, cities burned, and over 30 people have died

and you don't think the other side would have done it had it been beneficial to them? heck the only reason why they haven't succeded in red states is because they don't want to get their heads smashed in BY CIVILIANS WILLING TO PUNCH BACK!


Because many of these post-modernists do not have moral standards outside of 'what I want.'

the threats of a punch to the face or worse combined with trumps wheeling and dealing have done more to help this nation fight back and move the world in these past four years than all of the moral grandstanding, philosophy, and "Muh revolution" have done in the past twenty.

Part of the reason why things are happening the way they are is because the democrats are losing (politically) and like a child they are saying. "If I'm going to that great fiery lake under the ground then I'm taking all of you with me." What makes me sad is seeing all these people around me calling themselves right wing acting as if the left's attitudes are legit and gueine tactics rather than seeing it all for the game it really is. It's got me convinced that once the democrat dies the progressives will just possess the right wing under the guise of "The White pill."just like they did back in the time of the 80s and the dixicrats of the 60s
 
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No just no. You don't take one fucked up Ideology to get rid of another fucked up ideology. The path is the middle ground. The Bulk of people in the west are in the middle. What you are railing against is one of the extremes. Your solution would bring in the other extreme which is just as bad. Getting people in the middle to say enough of this mess is what will happen.
History I suspect will cause us to repeat old mistakes even if you hate it.
 
Yeah, I’m pretty sure lots of LGBT, “People of Color”, Moderate Democrats, Centrists and Independents are going with Trump

Mostly because the Far Left HORRIFIES them and they probably have a shared form of Civic Nationalism that will bind them together
Civic nationalism is what will save this country from this current madness, if anything can.

I want to believe it binds us more than the Far-Left can divide us.

I am praying for peace, but I must accept the possibility of war, because I may be wrong and things may go sideways.
 
Civic nationalism is what will save this country from this current madness, if anything can.

I want to believe it binds us more than the Far-Left can divide us.

I am praying for peace, but I must accept the possibility of war, because I may be wrong and things may go sideways.

I went a bunch of years thinking that Globalism or Communism or simply put being a “Citizen of The World” was the ultimate destiny of humanity

That Nationalism was just an evolution of families or tribalism and thus, something that’d encourage xenophobia or putting a select few people before the entire world or valuing some people more than the rest

Thus evil

I realize now that pretty much every country needs some form of Nationalism, even China’s got it
 
say that to the people six feet under for not meeting those standards. and these people do have standards it's called "Life is a game and the objective is to beat everyone else." It's the same standards that have existed since time began, one giant race to have the biggest stick possible and guess what, their winning in terms of influance if this forum and the internet for that matter is anything to go by.



and you don't think the other side would have done it had it been beneficial to them? heck the only reason why they haven't succeded in red states is because they don't want to get their heads smashed in BY CIVILIANS WILLING TO PUNCH BACK!

Someone has had too much 'both sides' ideology for dinner.

You can say 'both sides' are nasty to their ideological opposition. You'd be right.

You can say that 'both sides' have killed their ideological opposition. You'd be right.

There's a difference, however, between 'killed hundreds of people' and 'killed thousands of people.' There's a difference between 'fought a war where hundreds of thousands/millions died' and 'Killed millions of your own people during peace time.'


Hardline secularism and post-modernism is the ideology of utopia, and as the 20th centure proved again and again, the people who subscribe to this ideology always think that one more try will bring about heaven on Earth, rather than mountains of corpses.

Their ideology requires that they be willing to kill the 'reactionary,' the 'counter-revolutionary' and those who simply will not submit.

The Christian theism which used to under-write the morality of the West, on the other hand, directly preaches against these things. When people were executed for heresy, that was institutions defying the moral law they claimed to uphold. When people were robbed and physically run out of town, that defied the moral law. When wars were fought between ostensibly 'christian' nations, that defied the moral law. There was a restraint that these excesses had to push against, and while that restraint clearly was not as effective as it should have been, it did still make a difference.

These things are looked back upon as wrong, and that people should do better in the future.


The ideology that grips most of the intellectual and ruling class of today? That teaches that things like the Holodomor and the Chavez->Maduro regime in Venezuela are good things, necessary steps along the path to an enlightened future.

Nietsche predicted that the 'death of god' in society would cause the 20th century to be the bloodiest in human history, and he was right.

The rejection of objective reality, of higher moral law, and consequently of God, is what has lead to the madness that plagues the West today.
 
The rejection of objective reality, of higher moral law, and consequently of God, is what has lead to the madness that plagues the West today.

Alongside the hatred towards anyone who while atheist still ends up wanting said objective reality, only to be called all sorts of shit
 
The rejection of objective reality, of higher moral law, and consequently of God, is what has lead to the madness that plagues the West today.
No, that's wrong; the regressive left's embracing of identity politics, that they only thing which matters is power, is what brought us to this point. It's not a lack of faith in god that's the problem, it's cultural Marxism.
 
No, that's wrong; the regressive left's embracing of identity politics, that they only thing which matters is power, is what brought us to this point. It's not a lack of faith in god that's the problem, it's cultural Marxism.

You can be an atheist WITHOUT being a Leftist

Unfortunately that doesn't deal with the fanaticism/"altruism" or desire to serve/be-part-of-a "higher power" or "something greater"

And Statism promises many things

Gonna be really fucking hard to deal with the USSR's long overdue work's results
 
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Even the Church isn't immune to Cultural Marxism bullshit

My aunt is one of the most devout Christians I know; and she's the reason I just don't believe that a renewed devotion to god is going to save us, because she's also one of the most die hard regressive leftists I've ever met. You can watch her brain blue screen in real time whenever she sees or hears something that contradicts her closely held beliefs, and she'll latch onto just about any rationalization (no matter how divorced from reality it is) to convince herself that such a thing does not exist; down to simply refusing to acknowledge that it does.

Blind faith is what got us into this mess; so it's not going to be the thing that saves us.
 
My aunt is one of the most devout Christians I know; and she's the reason I just don't believe that a renewed devotion to god is going to save us, because she's also one of the most die hard regressive leftists I've ever met. You can watch her brain blue screen in real time whenever she sees or hears something that contradicts her closely held beliefs, and she'll latch onto just about any rationalization (no matter how divorced from reality it is) to convince herself that such a thing does not exist; down to simply refusing to acknowledge that it does.

Blind faith is what got us into this mess; so it's not going to be the thing that saves us.

Yeah, even my priests in college were going on about Social Justice and even my religious studies teacher who went to Saudi Arabia and had to hide his faith, defended their regressive practice

Hell, I was made to watch some movie about "Rerum Novarum" which failed to account for how advancing technologies were gonna make child labor unnecessarily expensive or impractical to begin with

Scariest part is that I think lots of these religious dudes who are Far Left are more genuine in their beliefs or genuine in their desire to help than the others
 
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No, that's wrong; the regressive left's embracing of identity politics, that they only thing which matters is power, is what brought us to this point. It's not a lack of faith in god that's the problem, it's cultural Marxism.

They have made for themselves new gods. To what moral law will you appeal to tell them that they are wrong?

Identity politics are not reconcileable with a Christian worldview. You must first reject Biblical teachings, before you can buy into Identity Politics.

My aunt is one of the most devout Christians I know; and she's the reason I just don't believe that a renewed devotion to god is going to save us, because she's also one of the most die hard regressive leftists I've ever met. You can watch her brain blue screen in real time whenever she sees or hears something that contradicts her closely held beliefs, and she'll latch onto just about any rationalization (no matter how divorced from reality it is) to convince herself that such a thing does not exist; down to simply refusing to acknowledge that it does.

Blind faith is what got us into this mess; so it's not going to be the thing that saves us.

I do not advocate blind faith. It gets exactly what you're describing with your aunt, and as you've seen, it's a destructive thing.

If people do not believe in God, they will make gods out of men, and that is exactly what leads to the blind sort of cultish violence we're seeing today. George Floyd has been made into an idol, an avatar of what people think to be true, their martyr of victimhood.

Set aside direct belief in God. That's not why I raised the issue in the first place. The issue is belief in Truth.

If you believe that Truth is or can be whatever you want it to be, something that is taught aggressively by post-modernists, then you will regularly succumb to or actively seek out believing whatever is most convenient to you, or makes you feel best. This is exactly what feeds into the myth that black people are massively, disproportionately, persecuted by the police.

If we swept away all the politicized BS, I would not be surprised if we found out that there is some kind of small bias against blacks in several key high-population areas. I'd be just as unsurprised if that wasn't the case.

The thing is, because rhetoric and dogma have taken the place of pursuit of actual Truth, because the post-modernists literally believe that they can redefine Truth by redefining language, the key people pushing and (most) of those participating in these riots, do not care about what is actually True.

They have put their faith and belief in their Cause, their Social Justice movement. They believe that their work will bring about heaven on earth, and a key part of making this ideology widespread and popular, is how Truth, and specifically Truth about God, has been driven out of the public spaces.

You say that it's cultural marxism, not lack of belief in God that brought us to where we are?

I say the rejection of God is a necessary predicate for believing in cultural marxism.

(And yes, I get that your aunt apparently is a part of a church that has sold out to the regressive left. If you want, I can go through point-by-point how that means that by necessity she's rejected Christianity, and is just claiming the outward appearance of an ideology she lives in opposition to. Many churches have done this.)
 
(And yes, I get that your aunt apparently is a part of a church that has sold out to the regressive left. If you want, I can go through point-by-point how that means that by necessity she's rejected Christianity, and is just claiming the outward appearance of an ideology she lives in opposition to. Many churches have done this.)

It's weird, I've seen Ayn Rand and Robert A. Heinlein fans go SJW or even somehow think those two'd support them, or at least go on about how Trump is Jim Taggart from Atlas Shrugged
 
  • We have people literally trying to brainwash their and other people's children into believing they're gay/lesbian or have gender dysphoria (they're fucking single-digit kids! They're still in the "hot = burn" and "ice-cream = yummy!" stages of learning!), simply because little Susie likes playing with a truck or little Ken likes playing with a doll/action-figure
Its not even the brainwashing thats the worst part. They want to pump these kids with chemicals that will sterilize them. On KF, there is an article where a 15 year old girl is pumped with chemicals cause going trans and now apparently has menopause at fucking 15!

Of course said kid is white btw.

We seemingly have entire generation of men who so yearn for companionship that they will happily be paypigs for women who can now earn millions. Basically, these men have no romance, no sex, no partners, no families, no future.

These women will of course spend their money which will happily feed the corporations who will then further push for women to follow these type of careers while also pushing for men to not have jobs so that women can take his job for feminism.

For all the claims by the left that they want to raise kids to be gender neutral, its always seen that boys are made to be girls. They want to feminize boys and thus make them go trans and make girls either the strong, independent woman who will never have kids or go trans.
 
Its not even the brainwashing thats the worst part. They want to pump these kids with chemicals that will sterilize them. On KF, there is an article where a 15 year old girl is pumped with chemicals cause going trans and now apparently has menopause at fucking 15!

Of course said kid is white btw.

We seemingly have entire generation of men who so yearn for companionship that they will happily be paypigs for women who can now earn millions. Basically, these men have no romance, no sex, no partners, no families, no future.

These women will of course spend their money which will happily feed the corporations who will then further push for women to follow these type of careers while also pushing for men to not have jobs so that women can take his job for feminism.

For all the claims by the left that they want to raise kids to be gender neutral, its always seen that boys are made to be girls. They want to feminize boys and thus make them go trans and make girls either the strong, independent woman who will never have kids or go trans.

And they can’t even let you escape into fantasy

Hell, they’re probably complaining about Uzaki-chan because we’re not choosing to face and accept and bow down to the horrible reality they embrace

Not helped that too many “journalists” and “creators” have ego problems and like being “saints” out to “inspire” and “change the world” and would like for you to swallow it all

BLM is just one part of what Western Entertainment’s now about in an increasingly WOKE AF work environment
 
They have made for themselves new gods. To what moral law will you appeal to tell them that they are wrong?

Identity politics are not reconcileable with a Christian worldview. You must first reject Biblical teachings, before you can buy into Identity Politics.



I do not advocate blind faith. It gets exactly what you're describing with your aunt, and as you've seen, it's a destructive thing.

If people do not believe in God, they will make gods out of men, and that is exactly what leads to the blind sort of cultish violence we're seeing today. George Floyd has been made into an idol, an avatar of what people think to be true, their martyr of victimhood.

Set aside direct belief in God. That's not why I raised the issue in the first place. The issue is belief in Truth.

If you believe that Truth is or can be whatever you want it to be, something that is taught aggressively by post-modernists, then you will regularly succumb to or actively seek out believing whatever is most convenient to you, or makes you feel best. This is exactly what feeds into the myth that black people are massively, disproportionately, persecuted by the police.

If we swept away all the politicized BS, I would not be surprised if we found out that there is some kind of small bias against blacks in several key high-population areas. I'd be just as unsurprised if that wasn't the case.

The thing is, because rhetoric and dogma have taken the place of pursuit of actual Truth, because the post-modernists literally believe that they can redefine Truth by redefining language, the key people pushing and (most) of those participating in these riots, do not care about what is actually True.

They have put their faith and belief in their Cause, their Social Justice movement. They believe that their work will bring about heaven on earth, and a key part of making this ideology widespread and popular, is how Truth, and specifically Truth about God, has been driven out of the public spaces.

You say that it's cultural marxism, not lack of belief in God that brought us to where we are?

I say the rejection of God is a necessary predicate for believing in cultural marxism.

(And yes, I get that your aunt apparently is a part of a church that has sold out to the regressive left. If you want, I can go through point-by-point how that means that by necessity she's rejected Christianity, and is just claiming the outward appearance of an ideology she lives in opposition to. Many churches have done this.)
In another time you'd make some fine thought provoking stories in the video game industry.
 

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