Meme Thread for Both Posting and Discussing Memes

Cherico said:

Your treating a group of people as weapons against your political enemies instead of actual people, friends don't do that.

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LMAO how is just sitting back and enjoying the shitshow "using people as weapons against political enemies"? GTFOH

Men like being almost naked and playing with their swords. Friends or strangers!









Rest in Peace Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben and yes... the Land O' Lakes American Indian BUTTER MAIDEN.

Anyways here's the meme!



With Aunt Jemima especially, the harm that was perpetrated upon those poor Black Women and their descendants, it must've been terrible. I'm glad that the character was finally removed, erased from history, and hopefully its legacy forgotten.



Whoa Whoa Whoa... shut the hell up YOU PEOPLE. Know your place! This was done for your benefit! Ingrates...

Husky_Khan said:

With Aunt Jemima especially, the harm that was perpetrated upon those poor Black Women and their descendants, it must've been terrible. I'm glad that the character was finally removed, erased from history, and hopefully its legacy forgotten.

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Land olakes one was drawn by a native american... they didn't even ask him to draw an indian girl, he just decided to do it on his own as a homage for his culture and ancestors. and nobody objected to the finished product he presented.
His family is also very upset at the removal

mrttao said:

Land olakes one was drawn by a native american... they didn't even ask him to draw an indian girl, he just decided to do it on his own as a homage for his culture and ancestors. and nobody objected to the finished product he presented.
His family is also very upset at the removal

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Leftists have a habit of not actually talking to the people involved or thinking about context.

IndyFront said:

I for one enjoy how triggering the existence of trans people is on the large portion of cis people, it's amusing. I for one have never felt uncomfortable around trans people, but most of the time I've been uncomfortable sexually is around cis people, I've never been sexually assaulted by trans people but I've been sexually assaulted on multiple occasions by cis women and cis gay men

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Nobody is "triggered that trans exist"

Rather, we are rightly concerned at seeing a mass push for castrating children.
As well as multiple countries (canada, most EU countries) and states (california, new york) making it child abuse to NOT castrate your child if school says they want to.

As for you personally being raped by multiple women and multiple gay men... that is quite alarming. You have my condolences.

But
1. how do you know they weren't trans? did they stop to tell you their pronouns? 20 years ago trans tried to pass, nowadays most are just a guy with a beard and not even remotely trying to present as a woman.

2. your personal tragedy does not in any way diminish the number of trans rapists out there. (slightly under 50% are sex offenders. in multiple countries. IIRC I posted 5 different countries earlier)

3. the main focus of concern that people have is the welfare of so called "trans kids" who are themselves victims of sexual harm. the main focus of complaint are LGBTQP pushers in schools who are grooming kids into being pride people (trans included)
the trans kids are the victims. with the attacker either being an "ally" (woke insane person. who is neither trans nor gay) or less commonly a gay man

4. There is also a big problem with male rapists who are not trans... until they are put on trial. then they "transition" in name only a day before the trial to go to women's prison.

mrttao said:

Nobody is "triggered that trans exist"

Rather, we are rightly concerned at seeing a mass push for castrating children.
As well as multiple countries (canada, most EU countries) and states (california, new york) making it child abuse to NOT castrate your child if school says they want to.

As for you personally being raped by multiple women and multiple gay men... that is quite alarming. You have my condolences.

But
1. how do you know they weren't trans? did they stop to tell you their pronouns? 20 years ago trans tried to pass, nowadays most are just a guy with a beard and not even remotely trying to present as a woman.

2. your personal tragedy does not in any way diminish the number of trans rapists out there. (slightly under 50% are sex offenders. in multiple countries. IIRC I posted 5 different countries earlier)

3. the main focus of concern that people have is the welfare of so called "trans kids" who are themselves victims of sexual harm. the main focus of complaint are LGBTQP pushers in schools who are grooming kids into being pride people (trans included)
the trans kids are the victims. with the attacker either being an "ally" (woke insane person. who is neither trans nor gay) or less commonly a gay man

4. There is also a big problem with male rapists who are not trans... until they are put on trial. then they "transition" in name only a day before the trial to go to women's prison.

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I see where you're coming from with the whole "transitioning kids" things, it really bugs me too. I do still think that, in America at least, I have no right to get in between a trans person and them getting the care that they need, provided they are a consenting adult, despite this I actually agree with a lot of this here, these are valid points to raise, I do not however think this applies to all or even most trans people, they are a VAST minority of the population and I think you can find just as many instances if not more of cis people doing just about all the behaviors you mention here besides transitioning itself.

There ARE however, a LOT of people that don't share your concern, or just pretend to, because they just hate trans people. You're obviously not one of them, but there ARE people out there who have an irrational hate of trans people. They DO exist.

IndyFront said:

I see where you're coming from with the whole "transitioning kids" things, it really bugs me too. I do still think that, in America at least, I have no right to get in between a trans person and them getting the care that they need, provided they are a consenting adult, despite this I actually agree with a lot of this here, these are valid points to raise, I do not however think this applies to all or even most trans people, they are a VAST minority of the population and I think you can find just as many instances if not more of cis people doing just about all the behaviors you mention here besides transitioning itself.

There ARE however, a LOT of people that don't share your concern, or just pretend to, because they just hate trans people. You're obviously not one of them, but there ARE people out there who have an irrational hate of trans people. They DO exist.

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People don't hate transgender people -- that is, people who suffer genuine gender dysphoria and have tried surgeries and treatments to try to better their quality of life. I have genuine empathy for those people who suffer from such a condition.

However, those people are literally so small a number on the global scale that you could visit every country on Earth for a week, do touristy things, and never encounter them once on the streets or anywhere else.

What concerns people with common sense and a brain, and what focuses a lot of disgust and hatred from these people for "transgenders", is that the masses who claim they're "transgender" these days, especially in the last decade, are actually "trans-trenders" -- many of which go on to groom other victims, commit outright heinous acts because they're sick (such as sexual predators against women and children), or because they're ill (such as untreated mental illness), or because they can use it for an advantage (such as trans-trender women getting gold in women's sports because they're just men in fucking dresses!).

At best these people are victims themselves (groomed, as in actual children, preteens/teens, vulnerable people, et cetera) or just ignorant (such as dumb teenagers thinking it's another subculture, like being a Goth, Emo, et cetera); at worst it's an excuse for predators (such as teachers) to be utter degenerates and to fulfill their sick lusts and desires, or for people to gain a benefit by claiming to be the other gender (such as the aforementioned sports example).

Vulnerable people are being preyed upon. Vulnerable or ignorant people are mutilating themselves and destroying their lives without knowing/realizing the consequences. Trans-trenders are literally up-ending society because of their delusions, and worst still their delusions and the lies they've been sold on are being supported by malicious actors who benefit from this (such as the medical industry, policalization, et cetera).

So, yes -- the hate is justified 99% of the time.

Also, don't call people "CIS" -- an outlying minority trying to relabel the majority is incredibly fucking disrespectful to the majority of people in the world.

I'm not "CIS". I'm a normal man. If I were gay or Bi, I'd be a gay or Bi normal man, not a "CIS straight, gay, or Bi man".

IndyFront said:

I see where you're coming from with the whole "transitioning kids" things, it really bugs me too. I do still think that, in America at least, I have no right to get in between a trans person and them getting the care that they need, provided they are a consenting adult, despite this I actually agree with a lot of this here, these are valid points to raise, I do not however think this applies to all or even most trans people, they are a VAST minority of the population and I think you can find just as many instances if not more of cis people doing just about all the behaviors you mention here besides transitioning itself.

There ARE however, a LOT of people that don't share your concern, or just pretend to, because they just hate trans people. You're obviously not one of them, but there ARE people out there who have an irrational hate of trans people. They DO exist.

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Fair enough.
Sure there are irrational haters, there always are for anything.
But I think the irrational haters are far more rare than you think

Morphic Tide said:

Besides the "why in the very literal goddamn is this the first remotely significant evidence I'm getting of it after multiple generations of the general assumption being strict materialism" issue in the meme itself making a comprehensive joke of any remotely useful guidance from God existing in the world ("It's in the book" really does not justify so very many centuries of not a single verifiable example coming to "not only enduringly fatal with no way of knowing, but also the original suffers eternal torment"), the entire argument is all extremely obtuse ontology grounded mostly in older cases of itself and unfalsifiable axioms dating to the Bronze Age, if not outright prehistoric.

By most of what's known, it'd demand a long time of working up through increasingly extreme restoration of life to the corpse by copying parts to replace unrevivable ones to have a remotely convincing "bioautomaton", because building up all the organ systems and vascularization from scratch when you have tissue laying around with large parts of it still there is a trivial reduction of expense. Which furthers the ethical problems of God's inaction to indicate "the Truth" because the progression has proven every single constituent system replaceable to turn what's left of the body back into what seems the same person by every measure.

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Does the idiom of the person "watching from the afterlife" upset you that much?

Replacing a living person with a robot that "seems like the same person by every measure" misses the point. By every external measure, you mean. But not from that person's own personal point of view.

mrttao said:

Fair enough.
Sure there are irrational haters, there always are for anything.
But I think the irrational haters are far more rare than you think

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And the rational haters are becoming more and more numerous, for good reason.

The transgender people that just want to feel better in thie r bodies and don't make it thier lives are the ones that are more normal.

Zachowon said:

The transgender people that just want to feel better in thie r bodies and don't make it thier lives are the ones that are more normal.

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Yeah, and the way to help them isn't life- altering surgery. And thats not going into those whoare tricked into thinking that they're trans.

DarthOne said:

Yeah, and the way to help them isn't life- altering surgery. And thats not going into those whoare tricked into thinking that they're trans.

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Yeah.
Those with actual gender dysphoria need help. Actual help, nit what ever the left wants for them

The worst thing to ever happen to trans people was the removal of gender dysphoria from the big book of mental maladies. The treatment needed to change sure, but maybe some advice on how far they actually need to transition and not go flying right into irreversible things.

Of course, a large section of modern trans people are fetishists who crossdress so they can bludgeon people into catering to them. Or cultists, definitely a bunch of trans cultists kicking about.

The trans issue is so fucked up.

I actually think most of them are victims.

I work with one. I call him by his preferred female pronouns. He's actually really nice, funny, talented and excellent at his job. But he thinks he's a girl and will get extremely offended if that idea is even slightly touched on. (Which I have not done.)

This person has paranoid schizophrenia, depression and anxiety.

So when a schizophrenic person goes to a doctor saying they think they're a woman...these days the doctor is just "yup, sounds good, let's get you transitioned. Now give me lots of money. "


What these people need is mental help.
Therapy. Unfortunately all rhe therapists are all about affirming their delusions these days...making it even worse.

It's all sorts of fucked up. I disagree with the ideology and firmly hold that there are only two genders and you can not change them, and I hate that I have to play along at work. It's not worth that fight though, because it's an otherwise fucking awesome job which I absolutely love.

DarthOne said:

Yeah, and the way to help them isn't life- altering surgery. And thats not going into those whoare tricked into thinking that they're trans.

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I'm not opposed to the treatments because there are intersex conditions for which they are appropriate.

There's also one intersex condition - güevedoces (Dominican Republic) or kwolu-aatmwol (Paupa New Guinea) where the child develops male genetalia when they hit puberty. Doctors do need to do anything for that except maybe spot it before puberty for the kid to grow into a healthy adult man.

For someone trans the hormones and surgeries should wait until adulthood with an "are you really sure?" beforehand because the treatments are not a quick fix and can not be undone. A mental health professional should be involved and that mental health professional shouldn't be easy to convince that gender reassignment treatments are appropriate.

Rocinante said:

So when a schizophrenic person goes to a doctor saying they think they're a woman...these days the doctor is just "yup, sounds good, let's get you transitioned. Now give me lots of money. "

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Ellen Page had a psychotic breakdown, went to shrink and less than a week later had her tits cut off and 'is a he.' This is what Elliot told the LA times, IIRC.

A transperson is worth millions to the medical industry.

The more people who are convinced they are trans the more money they make.

And, of course, there's the fact that they treat it like a mystery cult, and so many act with the blatant motivation of a zealous convert. So they have to convert others because it must be right! They feel horrible and nothing feels correct but it must be right and they must spread the word!

Think about how detransitioners get treated.

The whole trans issue is so incredibly fucked up.

Skitzyfrenic said:

Ellen Page had a psychotic breakdown, went to shrink and less than a week later had her tits cut off and 'is a he.' This is what Elliot told the LA times, IIRC.

A transperson is worth millions to the medical industry.

The more people who are convinced they are trans the more money they make.

And, of course, there's the fact that they treat it like a mystery cult, and so many act with the blatant motivation of a zealous convert. So they have to convert others because it must be right! They feel horrible and nothing feels correct but it must be right and they must spread the word!

Think about how detransitioners get treated.

The whole trans issue is so incredibly fucked up.

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I heard a statistic that somewhere between 1 to 2 million dollars are generated in the medical industry, per trans person.

They're being abused because they have giant dollar signs above their heads.

Rocinante said:

I heard a statistic that somewhere between 1 to 2 million dollars are generated in the medical industry, per trans person.

They're being abused because they have giant dollar signs above their heads.

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Poor bastards.