Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

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Bacle said:


The morons in the Kremlin are really going to try something in Moldova/Transnistria, aren't they.
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The Whispering Monk said:
99.8% certain.
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The Whispering Monk said:
In a half assed way. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he sent Wagner in to there to create extra havoc and then leave the Wagner forces to die. Thus removing them from contention with the formal military forces, AND the added benefit of labeling them as a Rogue operation when Wagner inevitably goes, "Tuesday is War Crimes Day!"
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Zachowon said:
I mean it is a pretty good one
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The Russians already destabilized Moldava. The only reason they haven't taken over completely is because Putin's generals took the core of trained soldiers and all the armor and weapons to Kherson against the Ukrainian offensive. What's left are the most incompetent fuckups and conscripts. With a semi competent FSB administrator for the province. Moldava had enough men to match the strength Transnistria had before it was stripped.

There is a non zero chance they will leave Moldova alone.

The Moldavans have already started digging in against the border and mining everything. The generals are trying to mobilize what they can and civilians are already starting to leave.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but sharing the schematics and design documents or actual capabilities online is still treason no? I think we need to start shooting these idiots on our side whenever they surface.




This was expected, but the confirmation took a while. Wagner spreads the execution videos but it seemed as though the west was ignoring them. I hope they do declare Wagner a terrorist group and more nations declare Russia and China a state sponsor of terrorism.
 
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A few takeaways:

The Biden administration is on balance more aggressive and more hawkish than the Trump administration.
Trump was no warmonger and did not start any new wars.
Joe Biden is hawkish across the board, if you look at American policy on Ukraine you see ther Biden was much more aggressive on Ukraine and it was his aggressiveness that played a key role in the war breaking out.

Wonder how much diet the Ukrainians have in Brandon and his kid...

The Germans are subservient to the USA and the USA calls the shots in Europe.

Russia has found alternate trade partners.

Humm, wonder who is the true quisling and traitor to Europe's interests here, eh?
 
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Marduk said:
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> Claims to be an anti-EU, pro-national sovereignty right winger.
> Post shit from some EU-affiliated pack of wokies no one has heard about.

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I am starting to wonder if this whole situation with Russia isn't an attempt by the EU bureaucracy to exhaust Poland in empty, pointless squabbles and damage the economies of member states and make them agree to more Europe.

This whole thing has definitely been a great excuse for a huge bowergrab thus far and they are pushing the Euro and Eurozone like you wouldn't believe.
 
Agent23 said:
> Claims to be an anti-EU, pro-national sovereignty right winger.
> Post shit from some EU-affiliated pack of wokies no one has heard about.
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>claims to not be a commie
>shills CCP run media
>former prime minister of Finland from center-right party is just some wokie no one has heard about
>some academic (a democrat btw) fanboyed by Russia fanclub including CCP for agreeing with them is known enough to be worth shilling for though
Did you forget that i can play soundbite games too?

Agent23 said:
I am starting to wonder if this whole situation with Russia isn't an attempt by the EU bureaucracy to exhaust Poland in empty, pointless squabbles and damage the economies of member states and make them agree to more Europe.

This whole thing has definitely been a great excuse for a huge bowergrab thus far and they are pushing the Euro and Eurozone like you wouldn't believe.
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>empty, pointless squabbles
Yeah, sure, the Russia business is just empty and pointless distraction in our region, please pay no attention to those.
Ok euroasianist.
>exhaust
On the contrary, we are loving it. Vindication is one hell of a drug.
Agent23 said:
This whole thing has definitely been a great excuse for a huge bowergrab thus far and they are pushing the Euro and Eurozone like you wouldn't believe.
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Ok euroasianist, stick your whataboutist distraction you know where.
 
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Agent23 said:
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Agent23 said:
A few takeaways:

The Biden administration is on balance more aggressive and more hawkish than the Trump administration.
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Good.
Agent23 said:
Trump was no warmonger and did not start any new wars.
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Trump was chickenshit, and two of his few good moves were the limited support he eventually gave Ukraine, and the ineffectual but symbolic strike on the Syrian airfield.
Agent23 said:
Joe Biden is hawkish across the board, if you look at American policy on Ukraine you see ther Biden was much more aggressive on Ukraine
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What's the difference between saying "Biden is hawkish across the board" & "Biden administration is on balance more aggressive and more hawkish"? Or are you just repeating yourself so it looks like you've got something to say?
Agent23 said:
and it was his aggressiveness that played a key role in the war breaking out.
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Lol, fuck off.
Agent23 said:
Wonder how much diet the Ukrainians have in Brandon and his kid...
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Your English is breaking down. Also, get it straight... Is Biden funnelling weapons to Ukraine to cause a war and enact his evil anti-Russia plan, or is he being coerced into it because the Ukrainians are blackmailing him, to support their evil anti-Russia plan?
Agent23 said:
The Germans are subservient to the USA and the USA calls the shots in Europe.
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Lol, so the whole back and forth on sending tanks was just elaborate theatre to delay sending tanks? I look forward to hearing your ass backwards justification for how such a manufactured delay fits in perfectly with the nefarious american plan to force russia to invade their neighbour and why Zelensky allowed it given he's got all that kompromat on Europe's puppet master Biden.
Agent23 said:
Russia has found alternate trade partners.
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Really? Who are they trading with now that they weren't before?
Agent23 said:
Humm, wonder who is the true quisling and traitor to Europe's interests here, eh?
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You. The one who's against opposing naked aggression in support of selfish ambitions. That was easy.
 
Marduk said:
>claims to not be a commie
>shills CCP run media
>former prime minister of Finland from center-right party is just some wokie no one has heard about
>some academic (a democrat btw) fanboyed by Russia fanclub including CCP for agreeing with them is known enough to be worth shilling for though
Did you forget that i can play soundbite games too?


>empty, pointless squabbles
Yeah, sure, the Russia business is just empty and pointless distraction in our region, please pay no attention to those.
Ok euroasianist.
>exhaust
On the contrary, we are loving it. Vindication is one hell of a drug.

Ok euroasianist, stick your whataboutist distraction you know wh
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:ROFLMAO:
Ree some more, cowardly hypocrite.

It has been 366 days since your cowardly ass has been doing nothing but yapping and trying to shame people who disagree with you on the internet.

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Agent23 said:
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Ree some more, cowardly hypocrite.

It has been 366 days since your cowardly ass has been doing nothing but yapping and trying to shame people who disagree with you on the internet.

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Ree more, euroasianist Quisling, no eurasian empire for ya.

It has been 366 days since your cowardly ass has been doing nothing but yapping and trying to shame people who disagree with you on the internet.

If you don't like Wagner, there are other ways:
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Marduk said:
Ree more, euroasianist Quisling, no eurasian empire for ya.

It has been 366 days since your cowardly ass has been doing nothing but yapping and trying to shame people who disagree with you on the internet.

If you don't like Wagner, there are other ways:
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Yup, same old apttern of pointless whataboutism, as usual.
 
AmosTrask said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but sharing the schematics and design documents or actual capabilities online is still treason no? I think we need to start shooting these idiots on our side whenever they surface.




This was expected, but the confirmation took a while. Wagner spreads the execution videos but it seemed as though the west was ignoring them. I hope they do declare Wagner a terrorist group and more nations declare Russia and China a state sponsor of terrorism.
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The ones for the US were TECHNICALLY leaks but it was nit as big as others had been.
The F16 I think was the biggest US one.
An F22 manual that you can find online was put on there as well but that isn't anything
 
Agent23 said:
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*foolish laughter* seriously, you pull something like that?
This I'll explain to you who they are, they are Russian agents (or just plain idiots) meant to discourage the Poles to war, for supporting Ukraine. So far to no avail, because the Poles know all too well what our national interest is. Hence all the censorship, is in many cases grassroots, because the Poles themselves, without encouragement from the government, ignore or ridicule the pro-Russian... Pardon, the anti-war movement, which somehow miraculously understands peace through Russia is to win in Ukraine.
 
Agent23 said:
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Another, this time actual "literally who" kind of shill, most famous for piggybacking the other, more famous shills to try sell them in Poland.
Including shilling actual agents of Kremlin.

For those who don't know, Sykulski is in a bit of deep shit with Polish state security since he went to Moscow to have meetings with Dugin, yeah, the euroasianist Russian imperialist one and of course proceeded to shill his worldview.
So yeah, he's lucky that we are a cucked western country and it's the speech of his bunch that is being restricted, instead of their lifespans.
 
Batrix2070 said:
*foolish laughter* seriously, you pull something like that?
This I'll explain to you who they are, they are Russian agents (or just plain idiots) meant to discourage the Poles to war, for supporting Ukraine. So far to no avail, because the Poles know all too well what our national interest is. Hence all the censorship, is in many cases grassroots, because the Poles themselves, without encouragement from the government, ignore or ridicule the pro-Russian... Pardon, the anti-war movement, which somehow miraculously understands peace through Russia is to win in Ukraine.
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Yeah, I am sure that some Poles know what their national interests are, like maybe trade:

Poland's Top Trading Partners

Below is a list showcasing 15 of Poland's top trading partners in terms of exports sales. These are countries that imported the most Polish shipments by dollar value during 2021. Also shown is each import country's percentage of total Polish trade.

  1. Germany: US$91.1 billion (28.6% of Poland's total exports)
  2. Czech Republic: $19 billion (6%)
  3. France: $18.1 billion (5.7%)
  4. United Kingdom: $16.1 billion (5.1%)
  5. Italy: $14.1 billion (4.4%)
  6. Netherlands: $13.8 billion (4.3%)
  7. Russia: $8.79 billion (2.8%)
  8. Sweden: $8.75 billion (2.8%)
  9. United States: $8.68 billion (2.7%)
  10. Slovakia: $8.1 billion (2.5%)
  11. Belgium: $8 billion (2.5%)
  12. Hungary: $8 billion (2.5%)
  13. Spain: $7.8 billion (2.4%)
  14. Austria: $7.2 billion (2.3%)
  15. Ukraine: $7.1 billion (2.2%)
  16. Romania: $6.4 billion (2%)
  17. Lithuania: $5.3 billion (1.7%)
  18. Denmark: $5.2 billion (1.6%)
  19. China: $3.32 billion (1%)
  20. Norway: $3.27 billion (1%)
  21. Switzerland: $3.21 billion (1%)
  22. Turkey: $2.9 billion (0.9%)
  23. Finland: $2.6 billion (0.8%)
  24. Latvia: $2.1 billion (0.7%)
  25. Belarus: $2 billion (0.6%)
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Or like all the money you are getting from the EU/Germany:

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You know, when times are tough and your prime trading partners are hit with massive energy price increases they might buy less from you or give you less subsidies, right?

Or like those that do not want their tax money and their country's armaments to be given over to a bunch of Bandera worshipers.

Or those that see no profit in trying to pick a fight with the Russians.

Or those that do not want millions of Ukrainians and Russians occupying their country as refugees or self-exiled western fanboys.

You do realize that soon you will probably have a sizable "Russian speaker" minority and all that entwils, right. :ROFLMAO:

And I am sure that they will all be happy to support a bellicose government that wants to spend more on foreign adventures when inflation is hitting your average Pole hard.
 
Marduk said:
Another, this time actual "literally who" kind of shill, most famous for piggybacking the other, more famous shills to try sell them in Poland.
Including shilling actual agents of Kremlin.

For those who don't know, Sykulski is in a bit of deep shit with Polish state security since he went to Moscow to have meetings with Dugin, yeah, the euroasianist Russian imperialist one and of course proceeded to shill his worldview.
So yeah, he's lucky that we are a cucked western country and it's the speech of his bunch that is being restricted, instead of their lifespans.
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Holy support of free speech and freedom in general, Bronekokoshkaman!

:ROFLMAO:
 
Agent23 said:
Holy support of free speech and freedom in general, Bronekokoshkaman!

:ROFLMAO:
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Yeah, a traitor's death would be the proper justice there, but when you can't have what you want, you take what you can get...
Done shilling fellow Quislings or do you have more?
Agent23 said:
You know, when times are tough and your prime trading partners are hit with massive energy price increases they might buy less from you or give you less subsidies, right?

Or like those that do not want their tax money and their country's armaments to be given over to a bunch of Bandera worshipers.

Or those that see no profit in trying to pick a fight with the Russians.

Or those that do not want millions of Ukrainians and Russians occupying their country as refugees or self-exiled western fanboys.

You do realize that soon you will probably have a sizable "Russian speaker" minority and all that entwils, right. :ROFLMAO:

And I am sure that they will all be happy to support a bellicose government that wants to spend more on foreign adventures when inflation is hitting your average Pole hard.
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Ok Hanoi Hannah.
 
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Agent23 said:
Yeah, I am sure that some Poles know what their national interests are, like maybe trade:



Or like all the money you are getting from the EU/Germany:

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You know, when times are tough and your prime trading partners are hit with massive energy price increases they might buy less from you or give you less subsidies, right?

Or like those that do not want their tax money and their country's armaments to be given over to a bunch of Bandera worshipers.

Or those that see no profit in trying to pick a fight with the Russians.

Or those that do not want millions of Ukrainians and Russians occupying their country as refugees or self-exiled western fanboys.

You do realize that soon you will probably have a sizable "Russian speaker" minority and all that entwils, right. :ROFLMAO:

And I am sure that they will all be happy to support a bellicose government that wants to spend more on foreign adventures when inflation is hitting your average Pole hard.
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We don't like the Germans, and the worse for them. The better for us, because they will stop making money off us with such impunity as before. So how would put it.

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Anyway, if it were true. Then we would not have been so eagerly in favor of Ukraine and would not have done everything to spite Germany. And yet, we do. What does this mean for you?

It means that we don't give a damn, unpleasantly but more unpleasantly, if we let Russia win. Because then, Poland turns into a geographical land and Germany decides our fate. No thanks, it's a hopeless business. Not everyone is as comfortable as you, some prefer to suffer for a while so that they can then make their own rules.

Whereas if Berlin is stupid enough to try to determine for us what to do, and attack us economically. Well, we are the ones with the military, not them. And secondly, this isn't the first time they've done this, too bad that the only effect it had the previous time was to finally develop and become independent of Germany. End of the day, the stick has two ends.

Besides, inflation has already hit the average Pole, somehow there is no desire to change course. So, your entire argument can be summarized in one word, bullshit.
 
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