Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

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SchrodingersWehraboo said:
Chuhiv was never under russian control in the first place.
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Chuhuiv not Chuhiv, and it was one of the first cities captured by Russian forces.


Chiron said:
First I ever heard the Russians had that village in the first place as it was never marked Russian held, but ok, so what?

The Russians seized Izium and Donbas Front is collapsing.
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Actually they pretty much flattened Izium.



So great job there for the Russian's, mind you, while they were destroying that civilian held city the Ukrainian's were busy destroying what was likely over billion dollars worth of Russian military equipment in their attack on Kherson International Airport.
 
BPS and guest go into some of the reasons why Putin soured on Ukraine and NATO, including pipelines, naval bases and port access and Big Tech.
 
I'd gladly accept the loss of Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk regions/oblasts in exchange for ending the war immediately just so long as rump Ukraine's option of joining NATO in the future won't be eliminated:

nypost.com

Russia tells Ukrainians war can end if they give up 3 key regions

Russia has told Ukraine it will halt its invasion “in a moment” if Kyiv agrees to give up three key regions, Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson said Monday.
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Floridaman said:
Exact opposite if Russia took Kiev in 3 days short of it surrendering that would involve them leveling it.
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They are levelling many ukrainian cities now anyway,and they would destroy Kiev before capturing it.
And no,they could made it quick-
1.use their best in the world hackers to paralyze defenders.
2.Use all 500 planes and 600 missiles in first way to destroy ukrainian airforces and AA units.
3.Attack only on 2 fronts,not 4

And they would be in Kiev after 3 days.They do not that,which mean:
1.Putin and all his commanders are idiots
2.Putin made deal with Biden handlers to made war long.

Becouse KGB take psychos,but never idiots,it mean,that comrade Putin made deal with Biden handlers.
Becouse it is only rational explanation for Putin failures so far - remember,he is genocider and psycho,but not idiot.
 
posh-goofiness said:
Let's wait for confirmation. The story in the Twitter thread sounds fucking ridiculous. It's not like setting up encrypted comms on civilian hardware is all that hard. There's 100s of software projects devoted just to that capability.
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They have been using comepeltly open comms
 
Vaermina said:
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So what? This celebration of assassinating high-level officers isn't really something the West should be proud of. Pragmatism is one thing, even as a tit for tat is another--but outright cheering on killing leadership is pretty fucked up. It certainly doesn't help the situation and will only make Russia angrier in the long run.
 
Youtuber History with Hilbert actually did a fairly interesting and in depth breakdown of Ukraine's International Legion, going over the genesis of the idea itself, then over various countries, the numbers of alleged volunteers and the apparent culture, motivations and legality of various nations citizens volunteering to defend Ukraine from the Russian Invasion.

He also talks about the escalatory risks and obviously compares it to the International Brigades that fought on the Republican side of the Spanish Civil War.



He also briefly stated that he might cover the already existing Georgian and Belarussian Legions that have been active in Ukraine as well.
 


Dawning realization that the UkA is taking unsustainable losses in men, equipment and critical terrain.



Another reality check



Ukraine's Oil Depots are now being targeted. Take out a tanker truck you impede tactical movements. Take out oil depots, you impede operational movements. UkA is progressively loosing its ability to shift its forces even if they want to and have no means to hit Russian Staging Bases or Oil Depots.
 
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Chiron said:
Ukraine's Oil Depots are now being targeted. Take out a tanker truck you impede tactical movements. Take out oil depots, you impede operational movements. UkA is progressively loosing its ability to shift its forces even if they want to and have no means to hit Russian Staging Bases or Oil Depots.
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Actually, take out oil depots and you get nothing but economic effects.

Because Oil isn't Gasoline.
 
People calling Zelensky brave for hiding in his nuclear bunker under Kiev, coming out once a week like the clown to make broadcasts to the "free world" and beg for aid whilst spending money hiring foreign mercenaries because the Ukrainian people are refusing the draft.

meanwhile, the politicians of the Donetsk People's Republic are all volunteering for combat.


The ukie neo-fascists and neo-nazis will be ground into dust and smashed into grease spots.
 
The Original Sixth said:
So what? This celebration of assassinating high-level officers isn't really something the West should be proud of. Pragmatism is one thing, even as a tit for tat is another--but outright cheering on killing leadership is pretty fucked up. It certainly doesn't help the situation and will only make Russia angrier in the long run.
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Normally I'd agree, but when the "assassination" is done by a country fighting a war, against a military officer of a country it's fighting a war against, while said officer is on the job and not e.g. on leave—isn't that just part of war? Most of the west is making no bones about favoring Ukraine and it seems no more or less grotesque to celebrate this victory compared to any other victory.

And for the record, do we even know if he was specifically targeted, or is this just "soldier dies in war, but this one is high ranking!"
 
strunkenwhite said:
Normally I'd agree, but when the "assassination" is done by a country fighting a war, against a military officer of a country it's fighting a war against, while said officer is on the job and not e.g. on leave—isn't that just part of war? Most of the west is making no bones about favoring Ukraine and it seems no more or less grotesque to celebrate this victory compared to any other victory.

And for the record, do we even know if he was specifically targeted, or is this just "soldier dies in war, but this one is high ranking!"
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You shouldn't be celebrating any soldier's death this much. Celebrating a tactical victory--that includes enemy soldiers dying, is one thing. Celebrating a general's death like this is really just poor taste. And probably only pushed because it's starting to dawn on people just how fucked the Ukrainians actually are.
 
The Original Sixth said:
You shouldn't be celebrating any soldier's death this much. Celebrating a tactical victory--that includes enemy soldiers dying, is one thing. Celebrating a general's death like this is really just poor taste. And probably only pushed because it's starting to dawn on people just how fucked the Ukrainians actually are.
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Personally let him. My stance is that if an Army crumbles because a general is killed, its not a good Army. And frankly any good organization is set up to keep functioning even if the leader dies.



New estimates of units deployed and course of the fighting.

35th CAA has established a forward supply point on the West Bank of the Dnieper and thus a rail line and pipe. This area has no pockets in the rear where KORD units are operating unlike in the Northeast where large voids exist as an operational necessity to lock up UkA forces so the killing blows can be delivered in the south.

Weather will remain poor the rest of the week.
 
The Original Sixth said:
Celebrating a tactical victory--that includes enemy soldiers dying, is one thing. Celebrating a general's death like this is really just poor taste.
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On the contrary, his rank (and related responsibility for the situation--both that of his men, himself, and even, to extent, the prosecution of the war itself) makes him a more acceptable target to celebrate a victory over than the yabo-Ivan BTR-drivers incinerated by antiarmor weaponry who weren't even told they'd be invading Ukraine by said General.

Also indicative of a tactical victory--Ukrainians knowing where to send artillery, infantry-attacks/snipers, or some secret-squirrel assassination team or whatever to kill an enemy general is a victory over Russian command and control, and security, capability.
 
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