Meme Thread for Both Posting and Discussing Memes

Husky_Khan said:
Is that the Indian Lady who helped Lewis and Clark discover the Pacific Ocean in *Googles* 1513? Aunt Jemima Sacajawea?

I knew she founded Land O'Lakes Dairy Company after discovering the Ocean (hence the name) but I didn't realize she was such a philosopher too.
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I can not tell just how sarcastic you're being here.

One of my neices and all of my traceable cousins are the direct legitimate descendants of a Japanese woman who wound up in Portugal c.1600.
 
gral said:
Making a small throwaway reference to Star Wars or Harry Potter is one thing. What was shown goes too far into cringe territory like the 'Hey kids' meme, or the guys who call the politicians they don't like 'Voldemort'(hell, I wouldn't say anything if it were the quote alone). But like Urabask said, if they want to use it, can't stop them.
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There is a part of me that wants to cringe, but there is also a part of me that cannot help but laugh. There is another, larger part, that thinks this is a-ok. Americans tend to live highly fictional lives these days, lives in which trained deceivers (actors) are held up as celebrities and treated like heroes for spewing their ignorance on their audience. For those not of an accelerationist bent, those who want to try to roll things back, it is necessary to speak to these people in their language -- which is Harry Potter, Disney Wars, and other vapid shit.

Bacle said:
Which is part of what the Right needed Trump to reinvigorate it, and get it more pop culture savvy; young people are more likely to listen to shit from Harry Potter or Star Wars than from Locke, Aristotle, or Ayn Rand.

Trying to act like the old ways of reaching and communicating ideas/viewpoints/policies are as effective as doing the same with pop culture bits, that the youth may actually recognize and listen too meaningfully, is part of the Right's stubborn refusal to update much of it's political or social playbook.
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I was about to say something about 'right-wing' memers, but it occured to me that with so many having gone natsoc, ancap, or Christian monarchist, are they really 'right-wing' by American terms?
 
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Husky_Khan said:
Someone is still sore about being ditched for Japan as Allies prior to WW2.



Made In China... Just saying...
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History is weird.

Prior to and during WWI the Japanese were the best Asian ally a European power could hope for. They offered to join WWI on the British side less than a week after the British got dragged in, were at war with Germany within three, and sent the first naval airstrikes ever towards Germans in the Pacific roughly two weeks later. The Japanese were doing carrier warfare years before aircraft carriers even existed.

And then American racisism basically went and said "Us, or them. You can't have both as allies." to the British.
 
bintananth said:
History is weird.

Prior to and during WWI the Japanese were the best Asian ally a European power could hope for. They offered to join WWI on the British side less than a week after the British got dragged in, were at war with Germany within three, and sent the first naval airstrikes ever towards Germans in the Pacific roughly two weeks later. The Japanese were doing carrier warfare years before aircraft carriers even existed.

And then American racisism basically went and said "Us, or them. You can't have both as allies." to the British.
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America and Japan were on a colision course because both sides wanted to dominate the Pacific and only one person was going to win that fight. Even with out racism they were on a colision course for geo political reasons.
 
Cherico said:
America and Japan were on a colision course because both sides wanted to dominate the Pacific and only one person was going to win that fight. Even with out racism they were on a colision course for geo political reasons.
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Without racisim the US and Japan probably could have worked out a somewhat amicable "let's share this" agreement instead of what actually happened.

One way to describe the rougly 90 years of US-Japanese relations between Commodore Perry saying "hi" and the US going nuclear: a violently bickering married couple who hate each other and aren't allowed to get divorced. Both of them want
"arranging my spouse's funeral" to be on the list of "things to do today".
 
bintananth said:
Without racisim the US and Japan probably could have worked out a somewhat amicable "let's share this" agreement instead of what actually happened.

One way to describe the rougly 90 years of US-Japanese relations between Commodore Perry saying "hi" and the US going nuclear: a violently bickering married couple who hate each other and aren't allowed to get divorced. Both of them want
"arranging my spouse's funeral" to be on the list of "things to do today".
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No that deal was not on the table, both countries back then had massive egos and were not about to allow rivals expecially when there was money on the table.
 
Captain X said:
Plus the Japanese were also plenty racist and were hardly innocent little angels themselves, as time would show.
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True.

However one good thing that came out of that clusterfuck was that now no one ever doubts the patriotism of Japanese Americans, not after what happened with the Internment camps and the 442nd.
 
Cherico said:
No that deal was not on the table, both countries back then had massive egos and were not about to allow rivals expecially when there was money on the table.
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"violently bickering married couple who hate each other and aren't allowed to get divorced."

True peace ain't happening until one of the two finally gives up and the "winner" has almost certainly needed emergency medical attention at least once.
 
bintananth said:
Without racisim the US and Japan probably could have worked out a somewhat amicable "let's share this" agreement instead of what actually happened.
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This is utterly historically ignorant.

The Japanese leadership were racist ethno-supremacists. They believed they had a divine right to rule the world, and as they amply demonstrated, they were not willing to give up without being forced to give up.

Are you aware of just how ready they were to fight to their nation's absolute destruction?
 
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