2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

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LordsFire said:
I also doubt that they understand that 'Bubby and his cousins' have been practice shooting their whole lives, and know the local forests and hills damn well.

It's almost like a perfect scenario for inflicting nightmare guerilla warfare on someone.
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Unless local forests and hills are near mayor communications artery, then the opposing force can mostly ignore them until the main threats are dealt with. In the Russian civil war, the Greens controlled wast tracts of land, but Red Army only detached negligible forces to contain them until they dealt with Whites, Blacks and Poles, afterward they crushed them with overwhelming forces and terror.

The key to winning the war is by taking the fight to your enemies and crushing them in their lairs, securing your locality is not the end goal but only the first phase, next is consolidation of forces and going onto offensive through unity of action.
 
The Greens were peasants that had no overarching political program or leadership. That made their defeat inevitable.

They just wanted to not have red or white armies extract their grain and livestock.

For the right to prevail in a civil war, we must have an organization, political program, and leadership that is willing to lead it all the way.
 
The media at the moment seems dismissive of the notion the SC will intervene or it will even be involved in the case.

Perhaps that’s just it’s celebratory mood, or perhaps it wishes to demoralize trump supporters.

We shall see how the momentum proceeds in the next few weeks.
 
StormEagle said:
Yes. At this stage the left has basically declared their intentions to completely destroy anyone and everyone that supported Trump in any capacity. Some democrat law makers are even actively calling for the creation of Stasi-like lists so they can either imprison or ruin Trump supporters. All of this after so blatantly rigging an election that every common man that isn’t willfully blind can see it.

It’s do or die time for the right wing in America. Either we win and drive our enemies into the shadows, or we lose and are ourselves persecuted.

There is no middle ground here, no compromise to be made. It’s either fight to the most bitter end, or roll over for the leftists to do as they will.

We stand at the banks of the Rubicon, watching as Caesar decides to cross with his army. This election will be the turning point of history, one way or another.

The right wing needs to decide if that is a battle they want to fight, and they need to decide quickly. Because the left will not be merciful in victory.
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MelancholicMechanicus said:
Dunno about him, but what I am saying is simple: if they wont back off their fucking Great Reset neocommie bullshit peacefully I will have a gamer moment. They can take my freedom from my cold, dead hands when I am dead. No fucking Glow in the Dark is gonna seize my proprety to make it part of the greater good. If it comes to that I will book a flight to the USA and join people there to stand up to it.
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I notice that reality tends to imitate fiction a lot these days

Though, reality “takes longer” and as such even if say Trump were to be ripped apart by hoards of “ORANGE MAN BAD!!!” on Live Television, it would still take awhile for an actual fight

Too many Conservatives, Independents, Libertarians and moderate Democrats live near or across their more indoctrinated and possibly increasingly unhinged neighbors. They’ll hesitate to fight both because they’re being watched and they’re surrounded.

There could be “watchlists” but any changes or attempts at mass arrests may take awhile, rather than wishing to make it obvious they’re going after them all

Though, you can bet your ass there’d be a resurgence of rioting and looting, but the only thing the MSM will cover is the “Right Wing Terrorists”

Your Armed Forces will probably be severely divided or have lots of deserters or people not showing up because they know they’ll be made to kill their fellow citizens.

Spies(douchey members) and Political Commissars testing the waters for wrongthink among those who don’t want to “shoot the Nazis” in order to try and at the very least get enough guys to just follow some highly unethical and illegal orders. With courts blatantly overturning regardless of things going against both spirit and letter of the law.

Expect this sort of increased spying and commisariat stuff to even be in the private industries, occasionally trying to say and do things to see whether or not there are those “disturbed” by the righteousness of their actions

Child Protective Services will have a big wet dream
 
LordsFire said:
I also doubt that they understand that 'Bubby and his cousins' have been practice shooting their whole lives, and know the local forests and hills damn well.

It's almost like a perfect scenario for inflicting nightmare guerilla warfare on someone.
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Bubby is only going to be a threat on his home turf. The Texas National Guard, and other conservative state NG branches are going to be doing the actual fighting on the front lines in a no shit civil conflict.

Thats what the reddit liberals don't seem to understand. They think that they would have to whole of the US military on their side and they would be just curb stomping hillbillies.
 
Ixian said:
Bubby is only going to be a threat on his home turf. The Texas National Guard, and other conservative state NG branches are going to be doing the actual fighting on the front lines in a no shit civil conflict.

Thats what the reddit liberals don't seem to understand. They think that they would have to whole of the US military on their side and they would be just curb stomping hillbillies.
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Question is how much of the US Armed Forces will side with them?

I mean I doubt it’s homogenous in mindset and there maybe guys who would legit believe the whole “We’re surrounded by Nazi’s” thing

Hell, there could be “Commissars” popping up to try getting those who may side with bubba, to be forced to keep quiet and work with them

That said, I think for those guys remaining, they’ll be saying that they’d be made to do a freaking suicide run through the USA due to a greater amount of guns than any other nation as well as possibly having to deal with “deserters” who decided to side with the people
 
The best option would be no civil war at all. I don't think a lot of college age liberals understand just how bloody it would be, and just how evenly matched the numbers would be.
 
Ixian said:
The best option would be no civil war at all. I don't think a lot of college age liberals understand just how bloody it would be, and just how evenly matched the numbers would be.
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Honestly, any violence that may occur, maybe too "brief" and "isolated" to really trigger a war and no one really wants to live with a siege mentality or would be so willing to make a stand

Hell, I bet just about everyone would give up their guns after slight pressure
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
Question is how much of the US Armed Forces will side with them?

I mean I doubt it’s homogenous in mindset and there maybe guys who would legit believe the whole “We’re surrounded by Nazi’s” thing

Hell, there could be “Commissars” popping up to try getting those who may side with bubba, to be forced to keep quiet and work with them

That said, I think for those guys remaining, they’ll be saying that they’d be made to do a freaking suicide run through the USA due to a greater amount of guns than any other nation as well as possibly having to deal with “deserters” who decided to side with the people
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The Military would split.

any commissars would be just cause more defections
 
Zachowon said:
The Military would split.

any commissars would be just cause more defections
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Yup, I think you can expect a lot of people “going missing”

Sometimes without even formally declaring they’re leaving

Maybe they’ll get desperate and recruit ANTIFA & BLM rioters en masse or even make them “Federal Agents” to compensate. Get rid of many of the old standards for membership too.

Try and even force retirees to get back in service “or else” with perhaps talk of “helping your kids deal with trauma”
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
Yup, I think you can expect a lot of people “going missing”

Sometimes without even formally declaring they’re leaving

Maybe they’ll get desperate and recruit ANTIFA & BLM rioters en masse or even make them “Federal Agents” to compensate. Get rid of many of the old standards for membership too.

Try and even force retirees to get back in service “or else” with perhaps talk of “helping your kids deal with trauma”
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The military in the US kinda...acts on its own. We aren't allowed to get involved in federal things unless it is BAD. So honestly? We may not even split, and only be used if it is BAD enough
 
Ixian said:
The best option would be no civil war at all. I don't think a lot of college age liberals understand just how bloody it would be, and just how evenly matched the numbers would be.
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The numbers are, in theory, evenly matched in 'who votes for what party.'

In 'who is willing to pick up a gun and kill or die for their ideology'?

That question is nowhere near so immediately clear. Conservatives can very accurately point out that there are more conservatives in the military, and that the combat arms of the military are even more overwhelmingly conservative, but even then, that's only a fraction of the total on 'each side.'

There are indicators, but you will not know for sure unless such a moment actually comes.
 
Jormungandr said:
As I said before many times, the Democrats have gone full on... I'm not sure whether they're socialist, communist, fascist, or a bizarre mix of the three as all their actions line-up with moves from the pre-Nazi German and pre-Soviet Russian playbooks -- especially with using escape goats, manipulating the people, having their own wings of "revolutionaries" in BLM and AntiFa...

I can see America going down four paths:
  • It's subsumed by Leftard ideology and becomes a twisted parody of America which will inevitably collapse anyway -- although we're seeing twisted shit like Critical Race Theory and indoctrination being taught in schools and the like, I think this is the least likely option
  • You guys have a coup, but while it would remove the Leftist rot from the top if it's successful, it could also put people who are Far-Right/Alt-Right in charge -- that would just be as bad
  • Civil unrest keeps occurring until the victimized portion of the population, namely Whites, snap back hard and it'll make the racism, sexism, and homophobia seen in the past (e.g. 18th--20th) look like a fucking child's birthday party in comparison
  • Outright civil war, albeit a dirty one that'd be divided mostly between towns, cities, the countryside, and ideological lines. If the influence in one state far out-strips that of the opposition, state to state warfare may be on the cards, too
Oh, and there's the "sanity is gradually restored" option, but that's about as likely as a high-school football team winning the European Cup by this point.
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My money is on outright civil war as the most likely outcome, second most is us snaping hard, third most likely option is the the take over and collapse and I think the coup is the least likely option.

Long term the left establishment just has an inherently self destructive ideology and quite frankly their not having kids or reproducing and are alienating every one around them.

That's not a power block that can survive multiple generations its a power block that lasts until they run out of money to loot and with a global credit crunch starting next year their days are numbered.
 
Cherico said:
My money is on outright civil war as the most likely outcome, second most is us snaping hard, third most likely option is the the take over and collapse and I think the coup is the least likely option.

Long term the left establishment just has an inherently self destructive ideology and quite frankly their not having kids or reproducing and are alienating every one around them.

That's not a power block that can survive multiple generations its a power block that lasts until they run out of money to loot and with a global credit crunch starting next year their days are numbered.
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They don't need to have kids. They're indoctrinating yours.
 
Jormungandr said:
As I said before many times, the Democrats have gone full on... I'm not sure whether they're socialist, communist, fascist, or a bizarre mix of the three as all their actions line-up with moves from the pre-Nazi German and pre-Soviet Russian playbooks -- especially with using escape goats, manipulating the people, having their own wings of "revolutionaries" in BLM and AntiFa...

I can see America going down four paths:
  • It's subsumed by Leftard ideology and becomes a twisted parody of America which will inevitably collapse anyway -- although we're seeing twisted shit like Critical Race Theory and indoctrination being taught in schools and the like, I think this is the least likely option
  • You guys have a coup, but while it would remove the Leftist rot from the top if it's successful, it could also put people who are Far-Right/Alt-Right in charge -- that would just be as bad
  • Civil unrest keeps occurring until the victimized portion of the population, namely Whites, snap back hard and it'll make the racism, sexism, and homophobia seen in the past (e.g. 18th--20th) look like a fucking child's birthday party in comparison
  • Outright civil war, albeit a dirty one that'd be divided mostly between towns, cities, the countryside, and ideological lines. If the influence in one state far out-strips that of the opposition, state to state warfare may be on the cards, too
Oh, and there's the "sanity is gradually restored" option, but that's about as likely as a high-school football team winning the European Cup by this point.
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What about Canada?

Would the violence/civil war drift up north as well?

Because if there is a full blown civil war, except me to head south as a volunteer for the militias.
 
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