2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

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JagerIV

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In the London ULEZ, it looks like one guy or a group have disabled hundreds of monitoring cameras. It's still a viable tactic.

Like all tactics, its a cost vs benefits question. If a rebel does, say, $10,000 of damage before their caught and arrested, is that a positive sum trade? Against someone like the US Fed, probably not: the Fed can replace $10,000s worth of equipment longer than rebels can probably find people willing to risk it.

Though, on the other hand the point of hitting the cameras wouldn't be the damage to the property, but to allow you to carry out other actions. Some hyped up teenager getting nabbed for destroying cameras if it allows your professional kill team to carry out an assassination without getting caught might be a fair trade, trading an unskilled low value asset to preserve your skilled professionals, and taking out someone assumedly of some importance to the enemy organization. As long as the teenager getting nabbed doesn't lead to the kill team getting nabbed eventually, which is the big difficulty with insurgent work: having some agents getting found not unrolling the entire organization.

Communication and secrecy are always a bit at odds.
 

posh-goofiness

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They may be able to absorb the 10K, but if there's 100 cameras disabled, that's still 100K. Not only that, but you still gotta go out and fix them. And they will still be vulnerable to future sabotage.

I'm not sure the whole thing about getting teenagers to do things is viable. Not because I don't think it'll work for a time, but that it's sub-optimal when you can use better coordinated adults.
 

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They may be able to absorb the 10K, but if there's 100 cameras disabled, that's still 100K. Not only that, but you still gotta go out and fix them. And they will still be vulnerable to future sabotage.

I'm not sure the whole thing about getting teenagers to do things is viable. Not because I don't think it'll work for a time, but that it's sub-optimal when you can use better coordinated adults.
Never underestimate the power of properly motivated teenagers.

They're dumb enough to do things like this and not really examine the consequences.
They're cheap enough to 'hire' in quantity.
They're fit enough to do it and then run away from the pigs.
When they do get caught...they'll end up seeing the 'man' as their enemies from this point forward.
 

Blasterbot

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They may be able to absorb the 10K, but if there's 100 cameras disabled, that's still 100K. Not only that, but you still gotta go out and fix them. And they will still be vulnerable to future sabotage.

I'm not sure the whole thing about getting teenagers to do things is viable. Not because I don't think it'll work for a time, but that it's sub-optimal when you can use better coordinated adults.
Another aspect is those people who repair and replace the cameras are also vulnerable and will need to be guarded. how much more expensive is it when you have to deploy a squad of guards to reliably protect the repair and maintenance? how much hazard pay do you have to offer to get these guys to do it? we already got a massive labor shortfall. how many can you afford to replace?
 

Simonbob

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Another aspect is those people who repair and replace the cameras are also vulnerable and will need to be guarded. how much more expensive is it when you have to deploy a squad of guards to reliably protect the repair and maintenance? how much hazard pay do you have to offer to get these guys to do it? we already got a massive labor shortfall. how many can you afford to replace?
That reminds me of something that happened in Bagdad.

Rebels started taking pot shots at garbos. That became a massive, massive problem. I think they ended up with troops having to do it.

When you need a group of fully equiped troops to empty your bins, you have quite a few issues.
 

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