2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

[Deleted member 88]

It’s important to note that Nazism basically discredited the idea of particularism in a broad sense. That is “the nation/tribe is more important and its interests can and must overtake the interests of other nations/the world”.

The whole post war ideology of liberalism is built on this. The Holocaust and the Nazis serve as a foil of sorts for modern internationalist liberalism. By the Nazis’ crimes, Nationalism and third positionist politics were morally discredited in the west. They only held currency in the colonial world, as coincidentally anti western rebellions.

Never again, could nations assert themselves or nation take precedence over the market or the “world community”.

Communism is closer to modern Liberalism in that regard, communists and liberal western capitalism may disagree on how society should be run, but they do agree that universalism-must be implemented. They(either a world communist revolution) or triumph of liberal Democratic capitalism(as in Fukayama’s 1991 proclamation) must overcome the world and all its national and tribal and religious divisions.

Therefore communist crimes are somewhat more justifiable, they were fighting not only for a better world but a universalized one. Nationalists weren’t fighting for the world, but for their own tribe/language/nation. And that is the worst thing imaginable.

You might argue the governing ideology in the west today is Universalist Liberalism. Which as I have said finds communism more congenial because of its similarities.

 

[JagerIV]

I forget who said it, maybe Sargon, maybe ShortfatOtacku, maybe Peterson, but the communists have (at least historically) been much better able to couch actually very different ideas in very liberal sounding terms. For example, racial equality was generally able to be couched in liberal, freedom based terms. Its couched in terms of letting people be free to live their lives, not having random judges order people's children to be bused several hours, or turning every interaction between a business and a black employee a potentially deeply complicated legal issue, and generally turn every personal interaction between people of different races into a political battle between races.

 

[Deleted member 88]

The main similarities between communism and liberalism are an emphasis on material prosperity and as I said, universalism.

The difference is that communists do not value “freedom” as much per se they value equality, and are more willing to use violence directly and unashamedly. Wherein Liberal Capitalism is willing to use violence, it does so under a veil of deceptions and illusions.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Back to the whole Civil War part, I think it may take 1-2 years straight of coordinated attempts to ruin and demoralise "right-wingers" even in places like the rurals to get said "right-wingers" to be willing to actually hit back

Like attempts via education to severely brainwash the kids and turn them against their parents and each other, whilst looking for the kids who could be "leaders" who will "lead" in the look for "bullies" and form sort of "cliques"

Afterwards, there's the problem of actually getting coordinated

And as surprisingly violent the "peaceful protestors" are, they've yet to decide to really escalate and shoot up the "fascists"

 

[LifeisTiresome]

@Lord Invictus

@JagerIV

Communism and everything surrounding it talks a big game of classless society and no hierarchy but what happens in the end is wealthy compared to the population elites in charge of everything.

There has been talk that the Globalists are trying for some sort of combination of Capitalism (which is of Liberalism *) and Communism/Socialism via Hegelia-Dialetics .

And it seems to be coming true when the World Economic Forum speaks of people not having property but having UBI and no debts and being happy.

* = Liberalism is steeped in hypocrisy.

 

[Deleted member 88]

Modern Society is the dialectic of Capitalism and Communism merged into another synthesis.

We have commissars they are just corporate HR department heads, corporations conduct censorship and governments give them tax breaks.

Its an awful tyranny but its a century in the making.

 

[Cherico]

Modern Society is the dialectic of Capitalism and Communism merged into another synthesis.

We have commissars they are just corporate HR department heads, corporations conduct censorship and governments give them tax breaks.

Its an awful tyranny but its a century in the making.

so when do you think this era of fuckery ends?

 

[Zachowon]

so when do you think this era of fuckery ends?

When China collpases and they start a war to try and save themselves and the Draft happens, and people see what Communism government did to people. Or with nK.

 

[Typhonis]

You also have the Boomer Retirement incoming. Which will fuck up easy lending.

 

[Cherico]

You also have the Boomer Retirement incoming. Which will fuck up easy lending.

understatement of the year, the era of easy lending comes to and end for at least a generation globally.

Any country that struggles in the current economic environment of cheap credit is fucked when that goes away.

 

[Deleted member 88]

so when do you think this era of fuckery ends?

When the rotten and disgusting creature that is called "Western civilization" finally and gloriously dies, when Jesus Christ returns, and or when the planet is destroyed and the human species passes away. (the latter two are not mutually exclusive).

And it seems to be coming true when the World Economic Forum speaks of people not having property but having UBI and no debts and being happy.

Its is the synthesis of the capitalist-communist dialectic.

 

[Ixian]

Anyone browsing reddit lately? They seem to be under the impression that during a real shooting civil war they'll be fighting Bubby and his cousins from the backwoods of Tennessee.

Apparently they don't understand that it is unlikely the entirety of the military and every national guard force would side with them.

 

[Deleted member 88]

It’s Reddit were you looking for insight?

 

[Cherico]

Anyone browsing reddit lately? They seem to be under the impression that during a real shooting civil war they'll be fighting Bubby and his cousins from the backwoods of Tennessee.

Apparently they don't understand that it is unlikely the entirety of the military and every national guard force would side with them.

Sufficience arrogance is indisgingishable from stupidity.

 

[Arch Dornan]

You also have the Boomer Retirement incoming. Which will fuck up easy lending.

When's that year?

 

[Cherico]

When's that year?

2022

 

[Arch Dornan]

2022

The request for bail outs have to pass through Cocaine Mitch's house and senate members?

 

[Cherico]

The request for bail outs have to pass through Cocaine Mitch's house and senate members?

Pelosi more or less understands that we keep her around dispite her numerous fuck ups, personality and issues for one singular reason these days. To secure that deal because yes we are fucked.

Smart money is that she backstabs big tech and folds on election laws to get it.

Big tech because every one has a bone to pick with them and there is no way in hell that they can allow some one outside the system to have that much power long term. And elections laws because that's going to be the price of doing business. That's going to be on top of any other concessions she has to give.

If your asking why she cant just cheat her way to victory and get the dems to get us through, look at Cortez and ask yourself if you see her playing nice with any one.

 

[LordsFire]

Anyone browsing reddit lately? They seem to be under the impression that during a real shooting civil war they'll be fighting Bubby and his cousins from the backwoods of Tennessee.

Apparently they don't understand that it is unlikely the entirety of the military and every national guard force would side with them.

I also doubt that they understand that 'Bubby and his cousins' have been practice shooting their whole lives, and know the local forests and hills damn well.

It's almost like a perfect scenario for inflicting nightmare guerilla warfare on someone.

 

[Zachowon]

I also doubt that they understand that 'Bubby and his cousins' have been practice shooting their whole lives, and know the local forests and hills damn well.

It's almost like a perfect scenario for inflicting nightmare guerilla warfare on someone.

Oh yeah. People give crap to Rambo last blood, but that is what happens when you know a area very well and control what happens there