China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Jormungandr

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I understand your anger, and I agree, but this particular article is clickbait. SARS-CoV-2 is also neuroinvasive and has also killed 100% of K18-hACE2 mice in experiments. This virus is being presented as unique in that regard, but it isn’t.

That said, these experiments are still highly dangerous and should still not be conducted.
They've modified their strain of the virus so that it can penetrate the blood-brain barrier, IIRC. Goddamn Chinese are going to kill us all.
 

Scottty

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They've modified their strain of the virus so that it can penetrate the blood-brain barrier, IIRC. Goddamn Chinese are going to kill us all.

While the people who are doing this need to be stopped, if necessary with some double-digit megaton yield warheads being used to vaporize their labs, and the credible threat of more of the same, lots more, raining down from on high if they do it again.... it's not "the Chinese" in the sense of that entire people who are doing this.

It's a relatively small group of not-mentally-normal people, funded by some extremely evil people.
 

Jormungandr

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While the people who are doing this need to be stopped, if necessary with some double-digit megaton yield warheads being used to vaporize their labs, and the credible threat of more of the same, lots more, raining down from on high if they do it again.... it's not "the Chinese" in the sense of that entire people who are doing this.

It's a relatively small group of not-mentally-normal people, funded by some extremely evil people.
In this case, these "not mentally normal" people are Chinese scientists, and their track record with containing bio hazards is about as good as a crack addict walking around a rich guy's mansions unobserved.

So, yes; even if it's just this one case, the fucking Chinese are going to kill us all if they keep tinkering with this strain (you have a point about highly lethal viruses being limited in mass killing because of killing the hosts before they can properly spread e.g. ebola in Africa).

Destroy that goddamn virus, and if they refuse glass the fucking facility.
 

Jormungandr

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That would only work if our political establishment wasn’t a bunch of cowards, and in the case of at least some of them, actively trying to kill us off.
Yep.

If they're not willingly and proverbially or literally in bed with China (or its agents), they're blackmailed into keeping things as they are/China exploiting things.
 

Iconoclast

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They've modified their strain of the virus so that it can penetrate the blood-brain barrier, IIRC. Goddamn Chinese are going to kill us all.
SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 are also neuroinvasive and also penetrate the blood-brain barrier, and both can also kill 100% of hACE2 mice in experiments.

There is literally nothing novel or unique about this “new” virus, in that regard. The point of the article is to terrify people.

"It can invade the brain!"

COVID-19 already does that.

"It killed all the lab mice! That means it'll kill all of us, too!"

K18-hACE2 mice are genetically modified to express human ACE2 all over the place and are extremely vulnerable to any kind of sarbecovirus that uses ACE2 as its entry receptor. They're a useful experimental model of a SARS infection in humans, but they don't replicate all aspects of the disease and can't be used to calculate mortality in humans. 100% lethality in these mice when exposed to SARS is extremely common. Both SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 will utterly annihilate K18-hACE2 lab mice, even though their IFR in humans is much, much lower.

The impression the article is trying to give off, that this new virus will invade all our brains and instakill us, is absurdly wrong.
 

IndyFront

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SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 are also neuroinvasive and also penetrate the blood-brain barrier, and both can also kill 100% of hACE2 mice in experiments.

There is literally nothing novel or unique about this “new” virus, in that regard. The point of the article is to terrify people.

"It can invade the brain!"

COVID-19 already does that.

"It killed all the lab mice! That means it'll kill all of us, too!"

K18-hACE2 mice are genetically modified to express human ACE2 all over the place and are extremely vulnerable to any kind of sarbecovirus that uses ACE2 as its entry receptor. They're a useful experimental model of a SARS infection in humans, but they don't replicate all aspects of the disease and can't be used to calculate mortality in humans. 100% lethality in these mice when exposed to SARS is extremely common. Both SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 will utterly annihilate K18-hACE2 lab mice, even though their IFR in humans is much, much lower.

The impression the article is trying to give off, that this new virus will invade all our brains and instakill us, is absurdly wrong.
I think a big part of it is for-profit media, for-profit anything can be bad, but in this case the corporate media headlines are tailor made to get clicks and, thus, $$$ and because of this headlines and even the article itself is prone to be filled with attention-grabbing sensationalism.
 

DarthOne

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I mean, it’s still not good news. And I bet it will ‘escape’ right before the election cycle. Pure coincidence of course.


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Speculation: combined with the above, it’s probable that the WEF had a hand in over hyping the disease in order to lay the ground work and scare the normies for when it ‘gets loose’.
 
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Iconoclast

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LOL. Checkmate.





To prevent future pandemics, it is important that we understand whether SARS-CoV-2 spilled over directly from animals to people, or indirectly in a laboratory accident. The genome of SARS-COV-2 contains a peculiar pattern of unique restriction endonuclease recognition sites allowing efficient dis- and re-assembly of the viral genome characteristic of synthetic viruses. Here, we report the likelihood of observing such a pattern in coronaviruses with no history of bioengineering. We find that SARS-CoV-2 is an anomaly, more likely a product of synthetic genome assembly than natural evolution. The restriction map of SARS-CoV-2 is consistent with many previously reported synthetic coronavirus genomes, meets all the criteria required for an efficient reverse genetic system, differs from closest relatives by a significantly higher rate of synonymous mutations in these synthetic-looking recognitions sites, and has a synthetic fingerprint unlikely to have evolved from its close relatives. We report a high likelihood that SARS-CoV-2 may have originated as an infectious clone assembled in vitro.
 

Iconoclast

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Andrew Huff said that Peter Daszak was working for the CIA. This claim appears well supported by the evidence (i.e. the obvious funding links between EcoHealth, In-Q-Tel, and USAID).

DTRA and USAID have their fingers in labs all over the world, via the CBEP/BTRP, EPT-PREDICT, and the like. The claim by DTRA-associated folks is that this is basically a jobs program; have them work on our projects so they aren't building viruses for dictators.

The general idea, then, is that the CIA was essentially paying EcoHealth to spy on the WIV and gather intelligence on Chinese GOF/DURC research techniques.

Now, here's the part that still doesn't make sense to me.

-If the CIA wanted access to the WIV, why would they buy this access by giving away the crown jewels of the US biodefense mafia's coronavirus research, Ralph Baric's reverse genetics techniques, to the PLA to use as they please?

-The proposition behind DEFUSE is to reduce the threat of bat sarbecoviruses to US troops by inoculating bats in caves. Why would the Chinese agree to collaborate with a foreign NGO working on a means to protect US soldiers invading China from coronaviruses?

These two things, in combination, only make sense in one single context, and that's the CIA treasonously collaborating with the Chinese to develop a viral bioweapon to attack the rest of us, as absurd as that sounds.

Let's consider the null hypotheses.

-The CIA let Ralph Baric and Shi Zhengli collaborate in a way that would transfer proprietary US know-how and intellectual property to China, but not for any nefarious reasons. In this scenario, the CIA are startlingly incompetent, giving away intelligence to China for free while gaining nothing in return.

-China willingly let the US develop countermeasures to protect US troops in China from bat viruses. In other words, Chinese military/intelligence let US intelligence run their labs for them without oversight or interference.

Neither of these make any sense at all, unless both US and Chinese intelligence are staffed by lobotomy patients.

Or, the CIA didn't stupidly give away Baric's techniques (which would be the opposite of intelligence-gathering). Instead, they exported those techniques to China on purpose, so they could construct the virus they needed to cause chaos.

China, for their part, knew that the DEFUSE project's very premise was a false cover story to rope DARPA in for funding.

Given the facts, this is the only scenario that actually makes sense.
 

Scottty

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How about: they got the research done in China in order to get around the legal prohibitions against it in the USA.

And the whole "giving another country militarily sensitive info" concern flies right past these people, because they are lunatic one-worlders who don't believe that there should be separate countries at all.

So they would happily give intellectual property to the Chinese Communists, for the same reason they have no problem with America (or much of the rest of the world!) giving up it's manufacturing capability to the PRC. Because there are no different nations or power-blocs, there's all just one big happy human community, man! (Blows out huge blue smoke cloud from an imaginary bong)

The Chi-Coms, who are of course quite happy with the idea of a one-world government as long as they themselves get to be on top of it, are probably killing themselves laughing at the idiotic round-eyes giving away all their advantages.
 

Iconoclast

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How about: they got the research done in China in order to get around the legal prohibitions against it in the USA.

And the whole "giving another country militarily sensitive info" concern flies right past these people, because they are lunatic one-worlders who don't believe that there should be separate countries at all.

So they would happily give intellectual property to the Chinese Communists, for the same reason they have no problem with America (or much of the rest of the world!) giving up it's manufacturing capability to the PRC. Because there are no different nations or power-blocs, there's all just one big happy human community, man! (Blows out huge blue smoke cloud from an imaginary bong)

The Chi-Coms, who are of course quite happy with the idea of a one-world government as long as they themselves get to be on top of it, are probably killing themselves laughing at the idiotic round-eyes giving away all their advantages.
But this would imply that the CIA are profoundly 'tarded and just giving away our tech for free and performing the opposite of intelligence, which is completely bizarre.
 

Jormungandr

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The strange thing is that the CIA either bungle things so badly that they look like a complete laughing stock/looks like they're comprised of utter retards, or they're hypercompetent to the point where they succeed in doing stuff and no-one would ever know.

Unlike the FBI and ATF who just fuck up everything they touch.

But yeah, there doesn't seem to be a middle ground when it comes to the CIA. shrug
 

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