CarlManvers2019
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I think American ships or deliverers need to be wearing hazmat suits and to not really go down the docks or planes
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China Wuhan Virus Pandemic
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I think American ships or deliverers need to be wearing hazmat suits and to not really go down the docks or planes
Dude, we'll have to unload the damn ships ourselves, as I suspect a lot of Chinese dockside personnel will be too scared or ill to do it.
Que "World War Z solution."
CarlManvers2019
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The one thing China really has a problem that will take a LONG time to fix is the lack of a population of females
I expect that China will be mostly near empty cities in the future
I expect that China will be mostly near empty cities in the future
MelancholicMechanicus
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If I am not mistaken China has a bit of a Incel problem thanks to that. It's a country full of just Good Idea after Good Idea.
CarlManvers2019
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I remember once seeing one bit of news about parents with their sons on the street in large numbers trying to find them a date
Gonna be less competition...and probably less “supply” after this
Cracks knuckles looks like I will have to find those old news paper articles from the time of the Spanish Flu when their Ancestors said similar things. Only to see the shit hit the fan on everyone.
They forget the message of the danse macabre.
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@Terthna , @Duke Nukem as someone who thinks it is only as bad as the flu with good evidence so far, I assure you that still isn't a good thing. The Spanish Influenza's minimum death rate over the same course of infection would still produce 230 million excess human deaths in the next two years, and maximum, closer to 400 million.
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So far they were only testing 279 of those aboard who were post likely to have it. I suspect the testing will now expand.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Into the box citizen.
Very suspicious.
Terthna
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As I understand it, the Corona virus has a mortality rate at least several times that of the flu, which makes it significantly more dangerous. Although at least you recognize its virulence; some still believe the total number of infected will end in the thousands, not millions.
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Damn, there putting human beings into boxes like animals now.
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The current mortality rate (gross, against the number of cases) is at about 1.5%, falling from 2%, in the official statistics. The number of people ill enough to require hospitalization, however, has been variously claimed to be 5 - 30%, and there were reports that up to half of those hospitalized were dying. We now have a clearance rate (full recovery of a tested infected person to test for no virus) of about 2.5:1 against the death toll, again trusting the Chinese statistics. That would imply 5 people recover for every 2 who die so far. Clearance rate is a definite upper bound of the death toll; we can safely say it won't ever kill more than 2 out of every 7 people, unless those numbers are completely fictitious.
Conversely the Spanish influenza killed somewhere between 6 - 15% of the people it infected.
The reality is that we won't be able to trust any of the numbers from China, of course, so whether it kills 1.5% or 28% of the people it infects is impossible to quantify at the moment.
As cold as it is, the cruise ship which is quarantined in Japan is going to give us the hard data we need to know how lethal this is, because we know exactly one sick person was onboard, we know when they boarded, when know when they became sick, we know when the first ten people tested positive, then the next ten, then the next 41 ... We will know exactly when those people become symptomatic, and we will be able to know exactly when they become contagious. Ultimately, we will know when they die, and when they recover. We will know how many of the 1,350 people on that ship get sick, how many die, and how many recover. And because it is a controlled environment where we can model everything including air distribution, we will have an excellent idea of the level of contagion. That's data the PRC doesn't have any power over, and over the coming days medical authorities around the third world will be greeting every report from the Japanese about the cruise ship cases with great interest and attention.
Tiamat
I've seen the future...
Allow me to say it: I feel horrible for the everyday Chinese poor schmucks who are being affected by this, and it's only going to get worse for them, but fuck the Chinese Central Committee and it's obedient cronies.
That said, Tyanna does make some good points about the cruise ship, because, as sad as it is? It makes an ideal controlled testing environment. Hopefully we'll learn more about this thing, but again, it's a controlled environment. You take this virus into a far more uncontrolled environment, like China in this case with various uncontrollable outside factors that can help propagate it, that leads to a far less predictable outcome.
That said, Tyanna does make some good points about the cruise ship, because, as sad as it is? It makes an ideal controlled testing environment. Hopefully we'll learn more about this thing, but again, it's a controlled environment. You take this virus into a far more uncontrolled environment, like China in this case with various uncontrollable outside factors that can help propagate it, that leads to a far less predictable outcome.
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CarlManvers2019
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Say, are gloves and alcohol being regularly used now? I don’t think masks are sufficient
I would advise ordering an actual gas mask. And a hazmat suit. And I am not kidding. I am ordering mine.