Aren't the North Korean borders relatively hard to get through for either side? Depending on how well they quarantine themselves they might come out of it better then some of their neighbors.
China Wuhan Virus Pandemic
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I’ve heard a case has been reported in Uganda.
It would be very bad if this starts spreading in Africa.
In Europe and the US-people who are infected can be isolated and treated given the effectiveness of state responses.
In Africa there isn’t the same level of resources or state expertise.
It would be very bad if this starts spreading in Africa.
In Europe and the US-people who are infected can be isolated and treated given the effectiveness of state responses.
In Africa there isn’t the same level of resources or state expertise.
Duke Nukem
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Uganda? . That's Bad , millions could die if thats true, since most Africans dont have acces to good medical care.
Where's that old 'Madagascar/SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING' meme?
Because it seems far more topical than it should at this moment.
Duke Nukem
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It's good the Russians did the smart thing and closed their borders unlike everyone else.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Foreigners from the West getting bitched at for not wearing a mask.
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The mask is hugely important in Asian culture not because it protects you but because it protects others around you if you are infected. It's a public statement that you're doing something to protect the rest of society from the risk of you being infected.
MelancholicMechanicus
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NK was one of the first nations to close it's borders over this. Indeed, as ironic as it sounds they may have been the best prepared for this.
gral
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More I think about it, the more plausible those numbers seem. If that "glitch" showed say 9999999 deaths or some other implausible number, then there'd be no debate. But something about the counts in that brief change numbers seems too plausible with the frequent online rumors from the Chinese social networks trickling in.
For more worst-case guessing, someone linked this screencap from /pol/:
Pretty unnerving...if the method is sound.
If those numbers are correct, mortality rate would be around 15% of confirmed cases, this means one death out of every 6-7 infected.
Terthna
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Meanwhile in America, you're looked at as a weirdo who's probably planning on doing something nefarious if you walk around in public wearing one.
MelancholicMechanicus
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It would fully justify the absolute panic and shutdown the CCP is displaying over this.
It's also possible that the true lethality is around 8-10%, and China is worse because of heavy smoker population + genetic predisposition to get their lungs fucked.
Still dangerously high.
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That would still only track with the higher end of the Spanish Influenza.
Duke Nukem
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True, But Hundreds of thousands, to Millions could die if things get out of hand.
Tiamat
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Of all the places they had to dock, it would be New Jersey...
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I’d rather they quarantine everyone for two weeks to be on the safe side but don’t know if that’s happening.
Fox News’ Todd Piro reports from New Jersey as cruise passengers arrive to be tested for coronavirus
A Royal Caribbean cruise ship carrying Chinese nationals who will be tested for coronavirus after experiencing possible "pulmonary issues" made port in Bayonne, N.J., Friday morning, Fox News' Todd Piro reported.
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I’d rather they quarantine everyone for two weeks to be on the safe side but don’t know if that’s happening.
Duke Nukem
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God forbid this virus ends up in NYC.Of all the places they had to dock, it would be New Jersey...
Fox News’ Todd Piro reports from New Jersey as cruise passengers arrive to be tested for coronavirus
A Royal Caribbean cruise ship carrying Chinese nationals who will be tested for coronavirus after experiencing possible "pulmonary issues" made port in Bayonne, N.J., Friday morning, Fox News' Todd Piro reported.
I’d rather they quarantine everyone for two weeks to be on the safe side but don’t know if that’s happening.
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Uganda quarantines 100 over coronavirus fears
563 people have been killed by the Coronavirus since its outbreak in China last month - Anadolu Ajansı
www.aa.com.tr
It may have not been confirmed yet. But there are fears of the consequence should this spread to Africa.
MelancholicMechanicus
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The real damage is not the deaths themselves here. The problem is society.
The threads that hold society together nowadays are more numerous than those of 1918, and much much more numerous than those of the 13th century Europe, and more fragile. There are many more failure points and interdependent systems at work here. We depend way more on out neighboring nation states nowadays than we did in 1918 and 1200's. Even if this disease only has a 2% death rate and only ends up killing 0.5% of the world population the damage it will cause to our long, LONG supply chains and interconnected markets will be huge. China's GDP has already taken a nosedive and as more nations resort to higher levels of quarantine and lock-down you will see that propagate further.
A while back I posted a video of a 2019 study named Event 201, where they tried to predict and simulate a global pandemic. Despite "only" killing 1% of the population this plague led to a loss of between 11% of the global GDP and somewhere along 20% to 40% of the stock markets. ELEVEN FUCKING PERCENT OF THE WORLD GDP! To put that into perspective, the 2007/2008 financial crisis? It shrunk the World GDP by around five. And we all remember how much chaos those 5% caused right?
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Indeed it’s more the knock on effects than the direct casualties.
30-40% world GDP loss won’t end civilization, but it will cause a great deal of social and political upheaval, far more than what we experience now.
30-40% world GDP loss won’t end civilization, but it will cause a great deal of social and political upheaval, far more than what we experience now.
Tiamat
I've seen the future...
I have to agree with Invictus and MelancholicMechanicus here...it’s not so much the deaths that are the potential problem, as cold as that may be. It’s the potential social, economic, and security related unrest that may come from this. We’re already starting to see the effect with China, it’s gets harder to predict if this thing starts getting loose more rapidly elsewhere.
Floridaman
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Then you get the political fun that economic collapse causes. After all when people becomepoor, we look for someone to blame.