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No to the physical act, but to make sense of what they are seeing in a microscope you do need quite a lot of education (the real thing, not the dial-a-degree you seem to get for everything) and some hands on experience with it. Lord knows there's a lot of fun things that occur in blood naturally. This does not necessarily mean she's wrong or right, but it does take a fair amount of foundation building to figure out one kind of cell from another, much less the components surrounding or inside them.
 
 

Sucks for them but it's not the worst thing in the world.

There aren't enough donated organs for everyone and Doctors aren't going to give one to someone who isn't following their instructions when someone else it could go to is following instructions.
 
Does someone need to be inducted into the Science Priesthood in order to be able to look down a microscope?
No to the physical act, but to make sense of what they are seeing in a microscope you do need quite a lot of education (the real thing, not the dial-a-degree you seem to get for everything) and some hands on experience with it. Lord knows there's a lot of fun things that occur in blood naturally. This does not necessarily mean she's wrong or right, but it does take a fair amount of foundation building to figure out one kind of cell from another, much less the components surrounding or inside them.
That and there's the simple fact she actively lies about things to sell snake oil to people...
 
Sucks for them but it's not the worst thing in the world.

There aren't enough donated organs for everyone and Doctors aren't going to give one to someone who isn't following their instructions when someone else it could go to is following instructions.
"Get the vaccine or die" fuck off

Yes to that person who needs one to live, it's the worst thing in the world, you inconsiderate scumbag.
 
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Sucks for them but it's not the worst thing in the world.

I am reasonably certain that if you need a replacement kidney, being denied the ability to get one is in fact one of the worst things that can happen to you.


There aren't enough donated organs for everyone and Doctors aren't going to give one to someone who isn't following their instructions when someone else it could go to is following instructions.

Since when do doctors have the right to deny care in this context? Refusing to follow a pretreatment regimen is one thing, that directly impacts your chances of successful recovering. But for completely unrelated factors? That's completely out of line.

Edit: The fact there are limited slots makes this behavior worse, not better. In such circumstances, as little as possible should be left up to the discretion of the doctors. Do you not see the implications of allowing medical staff to deproritize people for factors unrelated to the medical issue in front of them?
 
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Old habits die hard it seems: German campaign gives the vaccinated a little yellow button to wear to signify their vaccine status to the world and virtue signal.

 
Old habits die hard it seems: German campaign gives the vaccinated a little yellow button to wear to signify their vaccine status to the world and virtue signal.

Germans gonna German.
 
Sucks for them but it's not the worst thing in the world.

There aren't enough donated organs for everyone and Doctors aren't going to give one to someone who isn't following their instructions when someone else it could go to is following instructions.
Sounds like the purebloods are now in direct competition with the druggies for access to organ transplants. Not merely the organs themselves, but access to the medical tools and services required. Oh my, what a perverse incentive!

Germans gonna German.
I'd love to see all the vaxx-maxers memed into wearing cute little "I stand with SCIENCE!" pins. To show solidarity, and identify themselves to all and sundry.
 
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I am reasonably certain that if you need a replacement kidney, being denied the ability to get one is in fact one of the worst things that can happen to you.




Since when do doctors have the right to deny care in this context? Refusing to follow a pretreatment regimen is one thing, that directly impacts your chances of successful recovering. But for completely unrelated factors? That's completely out of line.

Edit: The fact there are limited slots makes this behavior worse, not better. In such circumstances, as little as possible should be left up to the discretion of the doctors. Do you not see the implications of allowing medical staff to deproritize people for factors unrelated to the medical issue in front of them?
I agree that Doctors should have as little discretion as possible and the system for organ transplants is already set up to do that. They have to follow the guidelines and this patient doesn't meet the current guidelines. If they get vaccinated for COVID, they're back on the waiting list. Per the letter in the tweet, that's all they need to do.

Doctors already have to give an available organ the most suitable recipient on the waitlist they can give it to, with one exception: the donor wants it to go to a specific suitable recipient ... like my dad did when he donated a kidney.

We can argue all day about the fairness of the guidelines, but that's not the issue. When an organ becomes available someone has to figure out who gets it and when there's no specified recipient that duty falls to the doctors.
 
I agree that Doctors should have as little discretion as possible and the system for organ transplants is already set up to do that. They have to follow the guidelines and this patient doesn't meet the current guidelines. If they get vaccinated for COVID, they're back on the waiting list. Per the letter in the tweet, that's all they need to do.

Doctors already have to give an available organ the most suitable recipient on the waitlist they can give it to, with one exception: the donor wants it to go to a specific suitable recipient ... like my dad did when he donated a kidney.

We can argue all day about the fairness of the guidelines, but that's not the issue. When an organ becomes available someone has to figure out who gets it and when there's no specified recipient that duty falls to the doctors.
This excuse might pass muster if this wasn't the University of Colorado's hospital doing it; CU is very, very Far-Left and I have no problem believing this was more about forcing the vax on those who do not want it than any boiler plate ass-covering letter or policy.

This is about trying to force the vax in the unwilling via coercsion, nothing else.
 
This excuse might pass muster if this wasn't the University of Colorado's hospital doing it; CU is very, very Far-Left and I have no problem believing this was more about forcing the vax on those who do not want it than any boiler plate ass-covering letter or policy.

This is about trying to force the vax in the unwilling via coercsion, nothing else.
I doubt it was that. The two CU allumni I've met are very right wing and bought a mountain when they were having marital difficulties. They could only get one of their three kids into a US Service Academy and it wasn't the Air Force Academy.
 
I doubt it was that. The two CU allumni I've met are very right wing and bought a mountain when they were having marital difficulties. They could only get one of their three kids into a US Service Academy and it wasn't the Air Force Academy.
I've lived in Denver my whole life, my neighbor is a retired risk assessment nurse/manager from that hospital, I've known others who worked there, and know what Boulder/CU's whole mindset is very well.

We used to jokingly refer to it as the DPRB, the Democratic People's Republic of Boulder, do to how filled with commies and thier ilk the town and school are; the CU hospital is no exception even if it is at the old Fitzsimmons military hospital.
 
I agree that Doctors should have as little discretion as possible and the system for organ transplants is already set up to do that. They have to follow the guidelines and this patient doesn't meet the current guidelines. If they get vaccinated for COVID, they're back on the waiting list. Per the letter in the tweet, that's all they need to do.

It's entirely possible that this one hospital is following guidelines and therefor this particular absurd injustice is not their fault. That does not make it acceptable, it merely makes someone else (the CDC, I assume) the villain here.
 

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